When 18 what surgeries should I get?

[donendone]

I’m trying to look something like my pfp

 

[davidlaidisme67]

Implants to get a longer ramus and genioplasty. Not sure what else tbh

 

[donendone]

What is a Genioplasty sorry I don’t know that many surgeries

 

[Andremln]

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I’m trying to look something like my pfp

Infraorbital Malar implants and LF1 imo

 

[soggra]

Implants to get a longer ramus and genioplasty. Not sure what else tbh

Lefort 3 as well He has the typical Asian flat maxilla

 

[soggra]

lefort 3, bsso, brow ridge and Supra implants

 

[donendone]

lefort 3, bsso, brow ridge and Supra implants

Could you explain what each of these do and what is the difference between all the leforts?

 

[soggra]

Could you explain what each of these do and what is the difference between all the leforts?

Lefort 3- moves entire maxilla and cheekbones foewsrd
Lefort 2- Moves entire maxilla forward
Lefort 1: moves only the lower maxilla forward
BSSO: moves mandible forward
Brow ridge and supraorbital implants - makes your eye area more attractive and masculine

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[RecessedCel5]

lefort 3, bsso, brow ridge and Supra implants

lefort 2 would be enough

 

[donendone]

Lefort 3- moves entire maxilla and cheekbones foewsrd
Lefort 2- Moves entire maxilla forward
Lefort 1: moves only the lower maxilla forward
BSSO: moves mandible forward
Brow ridge and supraorbital implants - makes your eye area more attractive and masculine

Also Put a thumbs up next to my comment

Thank you also any ways to get at least a fraction of the effect of these surgeries by softmaxxing or is that cope

 

[RecessedCel5]

Lefort 3 as well He has the typical Asian flat maxilla

actually this one is pretty bad. alot asians aren't this recessed maxilla wise. he might qualify for an actual lefort 2-3

 

[soggra]

Thank you also any ways to get at least a fraction of the effect of these surgeries by softmaxxing or is that cope

thumbpulling, facepulling, flatplane mouthguard, Bonesmashing, and diet has to be top tier

 

[RecessedCel5]

thumbpulling, facepulling, flatplane mouthguard, Bonesmashing, and diet has to be top tier

20/70 is abnormally bad.

OP, are you sure you don't have any functional issues ?

 

[donendone]

thumbpulling, facepulling, flatplane mouthguard, Bonesmashing, and diet has to be top tier

Thumb pulling and bonesmashing?

 

[donendone]

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20/70 is abnormally bad.

OP, are you sure you don't have any functional issues ?

What does that mean if I have those can I get surgery now?

 

[soggra]

Thumb pulling and bonesmashing?

Wolf’s law bhai

 

[donendone]

Wolf’s law bhai

Have you done it? I thumbpulled for a good month and nothing happened I wish

 

[donendone]

Thumb pulling and bonesmashing?

thumbpulling, facepulling, flatplane mouthguard, Bonesmashing, and diet has to be top tier

Flatplane mouth guard sounds intresting

 

[RecessedCel5]

What does that mean if I have those can I get surgery now?

this just measures your maxilla's growth. ideally you would have 45 degree instead of 70 degree, but anything ranging from 45-60 can look good. chico has 55 degrees. 60 is slight recession, 70 is very severe.

 

[donendone]

this just measures your maxilla's growth. ideally you would have 45 degree instead of 70 degree, but anything ranging from 45-60 can look good. chico has 55 degrees. 60 is slight recession, 70 is very severe.

Any way to fix or is it just over I am getting braces soon will that make it more recessed?

 

[donendone]

Any way to fix or is it just over I am getting braces soon will that make it more recessed?

My teeth are cooked too so maybe that’s why I had an underbite when I was uounger

 

[soggra]

Have you done it? I thumbpulled for a good month and nothing happened I wish

Yeah takes a while to get results though. You also have to be consistent. As far as Bonesmashing goes most of my results were in brow ridge and supraorbitals other bones didn’t grow as much

 

[donendone]

Yeah takes a while to get results though. You also have to be consistent. As far as Bonesmashing goes most of my results were in brow ridge and supraorbitals other bones didn’t grow as much

How old are you rn?

 

[soggra]

How old are you rn?

18 now. I did 3 years Bonesmashing. From 15-18

 

[donendone]

Wait really can I see the progress

 

[donendone]

18 now. I did 3 years Bonesmashing. From 15-18

That’d be really helpful

 

[RecessedCel5]

Any way to fix or is it just over I am getting braces soon will that make it more recessed?

braces, won't effect anything. you can try thumbpulling, but there is a 1-5% it might work.
Ideally you would want to get your CBCT scans and consult and ortho + surgeon because i haven't a maxilla this recessed.
this is another example of a recessed maxilla. you can see the degree of the lower right corner is above 60

 

[donendone]

braces, won't effect anything. you can try thumbpulling, but there is a 1-5% it might work.
Ideally you would want to get your CBCT scans and consult and ortho + surgeon because i haven't a maxilla this recessed.
this is another example of a recessed maxilla. you can see the degree of the lower right corner is above 60

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What would happen with the orthodontist I am seeing one in a month what could they do?

 

[donendone]

braces, won't effect anything. you can try thumbpulling, but there is a 1-5% it might work.
Ideally you would want to get your CBCT scans and consult and ortho + surgeon because i haven't a maxilla this recessed.
this is another example of a recessed maxilla. you can see the degree of the lower right corner is above 60

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Btw that guy is sub 5 if I look anything like him let me know

 

[RecessedCel5]

What would happen with the orthodontist I am seeing one in a month what could they do?

ask them for xrays + cbct scans. do you have any breathing/sleeping issues ? if so you can get a sleep study.

 

[donendone]

ask them for xrays + cbct scans. do you have any breathing/sleeping issues ? if so you can get a sleep study.

Yeah I have trouble sleeping usually get like 7 hours

 

[RecessedCel5]

Yeah I have trouble sleeping usually get like 7 hours

if you can get a sleep study or get checked for a bad bite you can claim insurance on the surgery

 

[donendone]

if you can get a sleep study or get checked for a bad bite you can claim insurance on the surgery

I already had a palate expander so that might have cooked my maxilla but my dad is Irish/British and has a good maxilla

 

[donendone]

I already had a palate expander so that might have cooked my maxilla but my dad is Irish/British and has a good maxilla

So I don’t know why maybe because unlucky or bad diet

 

[RecessedCel5]

I already had a palate expander so that might have cooked my maxilla but my dad is Irish/British and has a good maxilla

palate expander don't change much in terms of forward growth. it's about your diet during puberty, if you ate alot of protein +slept well + drank milk, you would have developed more atleast.

 

[donendone]

palate expander don't change much in terms of forward growth. it's about your diet during puberty, if you ate alot of protein +slept well + drank milk, you would have developed more atleast.

Nah you don’t know what I would do to look like Alex schlab bro

 

[donendone]

palate expander don't change much in terms of forward growth. it's about your diet during puberty, if you ate alot of protein +slept well + drank milk, you would have developed more atleast.

Nah I’m in puberty rn I’m 14 but it might not do shit

 

[RecessedCel5]

Nah you don’t know what I would do to look like Alex schlab bro

you can blast gear, bonesmash and thumbpull(although i don't think thumbpulling works).
a user here called looks did that during puberty, and transformed really well.

that's him now

 

[donendone]

you can blast gear, bonesmash and thumbpull(although i don't think thumbpulling works).
a user here called looks did that during puberty, and transformed really well.

that's him now

Can you give me a good gear source also I need to hide from parents in a apartment so pretty much impossible

 

[RecessedCel5]

Can you give me a good gear source also I need to hide from parents in a apartment so pretty much impossible

ordering the gear is easy, the hard part is hiding it. you need to know what you are doing, so research how much to take because if you take the wrong amount or combination you will get bald + age. you don't want to blast gear to look like a body builder as they all look 40. find a place where your parents don't check/ clean. this could be outside of your apartment, or anywhere else. you know your parents more than me.

 

[RecessedCel5]

gear is high risk/high reward. you are basically trying to cheat genetics, so if you fail you will look worse.

 

[donendone]

No it’s a small apartment and also how would I get it without it being caught (it’s sort of a fancy apartment so I have a doorman)

 

[donendone]

gear is high risk/high reward. you are basically trying to cheat genetics, so if you fail you will look worse.

Damn so it could defend me I to sub 5 hell

 

[sham66]

palate expander don't change much in terms of forward growth. it's about your diet during puberty, if you ate alot of protein +slept well + drank milk, you would have developed more atleast.

according to paul coceanig, thats all cope

 

[RecessedCel5]

No it’s a small apartment and also how would I get it without it being caught (it’s sort of a fancy apartment so I have a doorman)

do you have a friend whose parents really don't care what they do ?

 

[RecessedCel5]

Damn so it could defend me I to sub 5 hell

yes, you could go bald + age your skin

 

[donendone]

according to paul coceanig, thats all cope

Nah this isn’t cope I don’t think but probably small changes

 

[donendone]

do you have a friend whose parents really don't care what they do ?

do you have a friend whose parents really don't care what they do ?

Not really I’m in the city too so impossible I could like get it from my friend who actually has height problems so he get medical hgh but he is a loser who won’t give it too me. And hanging out with him ruined me socially

 

[sham66]

Nah this isn’t cope I don’t think but probably small changes

it is for bones (aside from sleep but thats an essantial for everything). good diet/milk/protein wouldnt have saved ur flat maxilla

 

[RecessedCel5]

it is for bones (aside from sleep but thats an essantial for everything). good diet/milk/protein wouldnt have saved ur flat maxilla

he is 14