When ive set my tinder to the US- above average looking girls do seem much more interested in conversing with me

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And they put a lot more effort into the convo ive found compared to UK or euro girls.

I think id probably be able to convert way more of my above average looking matches to dates if i was in the US vs UK. I think dating is less cliquey and girls are more willing to meet a HTN from online for a date tbh it seems to me. However its hard for me to actually trst this theory since I knwo with online nothing is secured until the girl actually meets you. The actual matches I get are more or less the same both in terms of quality and number tbh but I have more actual convos that dont involve giga low effort replies from the foid
 
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This bloated Latvian claims he was a giga Slayer in America with an Irish accent (despite only wearing one t-shirt as if the t-shirt he wore was somehow a massive handicap to him that he had to overcome)

 
This bloated Latvian claims he was a giga Slayer in America with an Irish accent (despite only wearing one t-shirt as if the t-shirt he wore was somehow a massive handicap to him that he had to overcome)


I have a thoery that NT in europe and NT in america arfe too very different things.

In the UK for example, by NT requires fittng into a very narrow range of behavioiur and interests, not abdiing to these social norms runs a very high risk of being socially outcasted (and therefore incel if youre not chadlite +). You can get away with being somehwat shy in the UK, but you cant get away with being weird around foids.

In the US, NT seems synonymous with beign extroverted. It seems to me like girls in the US almost appreciate guys being somewhat different/standing out from the crowd or being 'eccentric' (a word people have discribed me as before). Unlike in Europe being extroverted is fucking everything, but you dont neccesarily need to fit into a very narrow range of behaviours and overall image because girls appreciate more different types of guys so long as theyre outgoing and above average looking.

Just my theory tbh but others can chime in
 
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I have a thoery that NT in europe and NT in america arfe too very different things.

In the UK for example, by NT requires fittng into a very narrow range of behavioiur and interests, not abdiing to these social norms runs a very high risk of being socially outcasted (and therefore incel if youre not chadlite +). You can get away with being somehwat shy in the UK, but you cant get away with being weird around foids.

In the US, NT seems synonymous with beign extroverted. It seems to me like girls in the US almost appreciate guys being somewhat different/standing out from the crowd or being 'eccentric' (a word people have discribed me as before). Unlike in Europe being extroverted is fucking everything, but you dont neccesarily need to fit into a very narrow range of behaviours and overall image because girls appreciate more different types of guys so long as theyre outgoing and above average looking.

Just my theory tbh but others can chime in
I forget who made a post on this before but it was from a UKcel who had been to America and said that in America he was accepted as a normal guy and even someone who's personality people appreciated whereas in UK he has seen as borderline non NT for being too enthusiastic or eccentric as you said

He said there is a very specific type of soulless, psychopathic NT that dominates in the UK that you cannot stray from without being labelled as weird

I agree with your theory

Guys like CurlyheadJames who look and act outside of the norm would be appreciated more in US than UK

 
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UK being horrible once again.
 
I forget who made a post on this before but it was from a UKcel who had been to America and said that in America he was accepted as a normal guy and even someone who's personality people appreciated whereas in UK he has seen as borderline non NT for being too enthusiastic or eccentric as you said

He said there is a very specific type of soulless, psychopathic NT that dominates in the UK that you cannot stray from without being labelled as weird

I agree with your theory

Guys like CurlyheadJames who look and act outside of the norm would be appreciated more in US than UK


I think I will try visit US next summer and see how foids react to my behaviour tbh

It may turn out to be cope for me though- I tend to do worse with european girls than UK girls.

I travelled around europe backpacking for like 5 weeks and went out every other night and the majority of IOIs i got where from other brits travelling lol
 
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I think I will try visit US next summer and see how foids react to my behaviour tbh

It may turn out to be cope for me though- I tend to do worse with european girls than UK girls.

I travelled around europe backpacking for like 5 weeks and went out every other night and the majority of IOIs i got where from other brits travelling lol
Do you need to be vaxxed to get in?
 
Do you need to be vaxxed to get in?
Probably not tbh - Im pretty sure most places ditched vaxx laws now. Im fully vaxxed tho
 
Probably not tbh - Im pretty sure most places ditched vaxx laws now. Im fully vaxxed tho
I thought it was still in place for non US citizens, since you've gotten it then u can travel anyway
 
forget about behaviour, its just cos UK is extremely high competition looksmaxxing

ive seen the white guys in USA and they all look like turbo incel nerds

and USA is only like 60% white so theres less 6ft white guys to choose from
 
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just like @EverydayIsHell said in US just by being tall white and lean you're good because they have a lot more non white subhuman people living there as well as obese ones

of course places like NYC LA competition is though the roof but outside of major cities you should be good

I got a friend in Dallas TX and he's like a chubbymaxxed 5'7 manlet but he's white and decent money so he got himself a good looking black chick from barbados
 
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just like @EverydayIsHell said in US just by being tall white and lean you're good because they have a lot more non white subhuman people living there as well as obese ones

of course places like NYC LA competition is though the roof but outside of major cities you should be good

I got a friend in Dallas TX and he's like a chubbymaxxed 5'7 manlet but he's white and decent money so he got himself a good looking black chick from barbados
I’m not so sure about this theory

You could equally say slim white girls are rarer due to obesity and ethnics so harder to get.

When I was in london I found it way harder than where I am now despite it having way higher % ethnics
 
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I’m not so sure about this theory

You could equally say slim white girls are rarer due to obesity and ethnics so harder to get.

When I was in london I found it way harder than where I am now despite it having way higher % ethnics
well but London is where all the richest and best looking people tend to be so of course it will be harder

I lived both in London and south yorkshire and latter was much easier despite being very white

slim white girls are rarer but JBW is stronger for white guys because they are a bit rarer so you can snatch gl ethnic girl if you're into them ( I'm not )
 
well but London is where all the richest and best looking people tend to be so of course it will be harder

I lived both in London and south yorkshire and latter was much easier despite being very white

slim white girls are rarer but JBW is stronger for white guys because they are a bit rarer so you can snatch gl ethnic girl if you're into them ( I'm not )
Lol I have the same thing experience in those locations

Northern girls also a bit more open to being approached than london ones

And yeah I had success with ethnic girls in lodnon, getting a date with a slim white girl felt like mission impossible tho
 
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In my part of the US the competition is pretty tough to get an above average looking female. Maybe not as bad when you are high school and college age but it gets a lot harder with the single females that are past college age. That is when the hypergamy really takes off with them. It doesn't sound nearly as bad as people claim the UK is though where you have to be a Chadlite and/or really tall HTN with money just to get a fit 5/10 Becky.
 
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Go to the outside world and see everyone is at least more or less looksmatched. How most of those couples meet? Social circle + bars and clubs. Only echo chambers like this forum claim otherwise. Old is not the real world. Majority of hot women don't take old seriously.

The problem is that most users that claim that "competition is fierce" have a shitty social life or a social circle that has zero atractive women on it.
 
just like @EverydayIsHell said in US just by being tall white and lean you're good because they have a lot more non white subhuman people living there as well as obese ones

of course places like NYC LA competition is though the roof but outside of major cities you should be good

I got a friend in Dallas TX and he's like a chubbymaxxed 5'7 manlet but he's white and decent money so he got himself a good looking black chick from barbados
I slayed every night in NYC and I went out by myself every time too

I was literally approaching girls on the street and they invited me to come with them to whichever club they were heading to. Or I'd be hanging out in random bars making friends / chatting the girls in there

I was also cold approached in times square twice during the day, once by a woman and once by a faggot
 
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In my part of the US the competition is pretty tough to get an above average looking female. Maybe not as bad when you are high school and college age but it gets a lot harder with the single females that are past college age. That is when the hypergamy really takes off with them. It doesn't sound nearly as bad as people claim the UK is though where you have to be a Chadlite and/or really tall HTN with money just to get a fit 5/10 Becky.
i heard it's easy to get black women as a white guy in us

here in uk you are still at an advantage but you still need to put some work in

but yeah bro slim decent looking young (<25) white woman

fucking over won't happen off dating apps unles you're at least HTN
 
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Go to the outside world and see everyone is at least more or less looksmatched. How most of those couples meet? Social circle + bars and clubs. Only echo chambers like this forum claim otherwise. Old is not the real world. Majority of hot women don't take old seriously.

The problem is that most users that claim that "competition is fierce" have a shitty social life or a social circle that has zero atractive women on it.
cope, most people meet through instagram
 
This bloated Latvian claims he was a giga Slayer in America with an Irish accent (despite only wearing one t-shirt as if the t-shirt he wore was somehow a massive handicap to him that he had to overcome)


>believing mongoloid russoid rapebaby tales
NGMI
 
I slayed every night in NYC and I went out by myself every time too

I was literally approaching girls on the street and they invited me to come with them to whichever club they were heading to. Or I'd be hanging out in random bars making friends / chatting the girls in there

I was also cold approached in times square twice during the day, once by a woman and once by a faggot
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Go to the outside world and see everyone is at least more or less looksmatched. How most of those couples meet? Social circle + bars and clubs. Only echo chambers like this forum claim otherwise. Old is not the real world. Majority of hot women don't take old seriously.

The problem is that most users that claim that "competition is fierce" have a shitty social life or a social circle that has zero atractive women on it.

In my area in the US almost all the loksmatched couples are people who had been in LTR since high school or early college days. A guy that finds himself single after that age has it very hard with the crazy hypergamy. I knew a guy that got divorced from a 6/10 cute female and he is about that himself now and gets rejected constantly by looksmatches while his ex-wife has Chadlites pursuing her all the time.
 
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In my area in the US almost all the loksmatched couples are people who had been in LTR since high school or early college days. A guy that finds himself single after that age has it very hard with the crazy hypergamy. I knew a guy that got divorced from a 6/10 cute female and he is about that himself now and gets rejected constantly by looksmatches while his ex-wife has Chadlites pursuing her all the time.
Then that means the good quality girls are locked since very early in their lives.
 
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i heard it's easy to get black women as a white guy in us

here in uk you are still at an advantage but you still need to put some work in

but yeah bro slim decent looking young (<25) white woman

fucking over won't happen off dating apps unles you're at least HTN

Decent looking white women in my area only will mess with a Tyrone-lite for the most part though there is a few cases of a decent looking black female dating businessman 5/10 white guys. What you mostly see is fat white females with black guys if they aren't a Tyrone-lite.
 
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In my area in the US almost all the loksmatched couples are people who had been in LTR since high school or early college days. A guy that finds himself single after that age has it very hard with the crazy hypergamy. I knew a guy that got divorced from a 6/10 cute female and he is about that himself now and gets rejected constantly by looksmatches while his ex-wife has Chadlites pursuing her all the time.
thtas how it works everywhere tbh-

In high school even LTNs have a shot at getting cute gfs - dating is pretty much confined to within the remits of the school and girls develop earlier than guys so hypergamy is basically non existent

After high school hypergamy creeps in at uni- but it’s still not too bad if you social circle max and are above average looking you should be able to get a gf or a few ONS.

After uni ends you’re basically fucked without dating apps so everyone below HTN who didn’t manage to secure a gf by now is incel
 
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Imagine thinking the "US" is one enormous homogeneous dating pool. OP probably set location to NYC or one of the 3 or 4 other urban areas in the US with an excess of young females.
 
Imagine thinking the "US" is one enormous homogeneous dating pool. OP probably set location to NYC or one of the 3 or 4 other urban areas in the US with an excess of young females.

You think that would help though? I always here the bigger cities have worse hypergamy and they seem to a little here in Florida. I heard places like LA are just off the charts with it.
 
Imagine thinking the "US" is one enormous homogeneous dating pool. OP probably set location to NYC or one of the 3 or 4 other urban areas in the US with an excess of young females.
You’re right tbh

I think actually there’s probably just as much variation in difficulty WITHIN countries as there is BETWEEN countries , but no one ever really seems to talk about that on the forum
 
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thtas how it works everywhere tbh-

In high school even LTNs have a shot at getting cute gfs - dating is pretty much confined to within the remits of the school and girls develop earlier than guys so hypergamy is basically non existent

After high school hypergamy creeps in at uni- but it’s still not too bad if you social circle max and are above average looking you should be able to get a gf or a few ONS.

After uni ends you’re basically fucked without dating apps so everyone below HTN who didn’t manage to secure a gf by now is incel
Without dating apps I would be forced to go out at night 2-3 times per week or be a fucking incel. It's really a joke. Bit I really feel dating apps are just lower quality women generally, so I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
 
USA/Canada is easymode compared to Europe. I've heard this time and time again, dating is much easier for men in America.
 
USA/Canada is easymode compared to Europe. I've heard this time and time again, dating is much easier for men in America.
That could be cope. Mediterranean culture is open minded as fuck.
 
When I was in london I found it way harder than where I am now despite it having way higher % ethnics

London girls are still matching with men in Surrey, Hertfordshire, Bucks ect, all white areas.

Many with local celebs and such.
 
I slayed every night in NYC and I went out by myself every time too

I was literally approaching girls on the street and they invited me to come with them to whichever club they were heading to. Or I'd be hanging out in random bars making friends / chatting the girls in there

I was also cold approached in times square twice during the day, once by a woman and once by a faggot
Nahh holdup gang whats your PSL and SMV?

also you tryna rate me?
 

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