When will Putin supporters admit that Russia is losing?

[ifyouwannabemylover]

This has been going on for a month and Russian troops have hardly gotten anywhere and they've been running out of fuel/food supplies while Russia is getting raped by sanctions. Even some Kremlin figures are turning their backs on Putin now:

Putin Adviser Chubais Quits Over Ukraine War and Leaves Russia

Russian climate envoy Anatoly Chubais has stepped down and left the country, citing his opposition to President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the situation, becoming the highest-level official to break with the Kremlin over the invasion.

www.bloomberg.com

And even if they do manage to take over, they won't be able to do shit there because the resistance among people is absolutely massive and they'll have no choice but to go back home and try to clean up the mess. That's still a loss. Thousands of Russian soldiers died. The economy is fucked. Russia is isolated from the rest of the world.

Putin is an old fart who wanted to go down in history books as some sort of hero emperor and now he'll go down as a failure and war criminal. He upped his rhetoric about getting rid of "traitors" too as a cope because he knows the whole thing was a failure is bound to breed resistance. It's game over for him.​

 

[444]

When will you admit you are a delusional CIA rat? Who cares if Putin will be viewed as a war criminal in the West? The US and Western Europe have terrorized the world for centuries

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

When will you admit you are a delusional CIA rat? Who cares if Putin will be viewed as a war criminal in the West? The US and Western Europe have terrorized the world for centuries

I am a neutral and unbiased spectator who is able to admit that it's game over for Putin's Russia.

 

[444]

I am a neutral and unbiased spectator who is able to admit that it's game over for Putin's Russia.

Oh yeah, it's over for Putin and over for Russia because a corrupt oligarch left his government job and the Ukrainians claim they have killed 10 trillion russians

 

[turkproducer]

just funny how the west can and has been doing what he does and nobody cares, but he can do it and he’s a muh evil dictator man and gets shamed in the shekel media

he literally doesn’t give a fuck about sanctions. sanctions for invading a country is a piss poor response.you’re also forgetting how much oil russia supplies to the world, why do you think the prices have doubled or more?

anyway at the end of the day i would prefer no wars but the hypocrisy is real

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

just funny how the west can and has been doing what he does and nobody cares, but he can do it and he’s a muh evil dictator man and gets shamed in the shekel media

it's a little more nuanced than that don't you think

 

[Gonthar]

They have troll factories all over the world so they keep pumping their propaganda, even on the Romanian internet they have infested many forums, blogs and news sites; these guys are usually Moldovan, many have Russian sympathies since Moldova was once part of the Soviet Union, they can be recognized by their more archaic Romanian; since they were isolated their language still uses many older words and expression that you don't hear much today...

 

[turkproducer]

it's a little more nuanced than that don't you think

that makes 0 sense

did george bush get labelled as a war criminal to this extent? or other murderer politicians?

there are more complexities to this situation i agree, on one hand the west has been playing world policeman with 0 accountability, and 0 reason to, whereas this situation was sparked by the rejection of russia joining nato a few decades ago, and then the almost-concession of a huge geo-political loss of allowing a huge NATO base right on their door step

just don’t have one rule for russia and the other for the usa, you’re anti-war everywhere or nowhere.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

that makes 0 sense

did george bush get labelled as a war criminal to this extent? or other murderer politicians?

there are more complexities to this situation i agree, on one hand the west has been playing world policeman with 0 accountability, and 0 reason to, whereas this situation was sparked by the rejection of russia joining nato a few decades ago, and then the almost-concession of a huge geo-political loss of allowing a huge NATO base right on their door step

just don’t have one rule for russia and the other for the usa, you’re anti-war everywhere or nowhere.

first and obvious difference here is that george bush is shunned in the west and you were openly able to protest (and a lot of people did) even back then without being sent to jail or worse like in russia where 80% of the population is completely isolated from anything other than their state media anyway. and despite bush being in the wrong, he didn't destroy his own country like putin is doing now.

hypocrisy is everywhere but acting like those are the same is complete horseshit.

 

[BigBiceps]

just funny how the west can and has been doing what he does and nobody cares, but he can do it and he’s a muh evil dictator man and gets shamed in the shekel media

he literally doesn’t give a fuck about sanctions. sanctions for invading a country is a piss poor response.you’re also forgetting how much oil russia supplies to the world, why do you think the prices have doubled or more?

anyway at the end of the day i would prefer no wars but the hypocrisy is real

USA has been doing it in some shitholes nobody really cares of anyway. If US suddenly invaded say Sweden for example, the backlash would be unimaginable.

 

[444]

it's a little more nuanced than that don't you think

Yeah it's more nuanced bro! The US murders hundreds of thousands and you love it, that's nuance!

and despite bush being in the wrong, he didn't destroy his own country like putin is doing now.

"what was the 2008 recession"
George Bush is absolutely NOT shunned in America outside of your reddit bubble. The average Russian has access to 100 times more accurate information about Ukraine than you ever will, just by nature of speaking Russian and having access to Telegram channels and VK, where you can find information independent of state media. You just have whatever the coked up Ukrainian defense ministry tells you

USA has been doing it in some shitholes nobody really cares of anyway. If US suddenly invaded say Sweden for example, the backlash would be unimaginable.

I thought western europeans considered slavic people to be inferior? western europeans have been slandering and hating eastern europeans for decades, now suddenly Ukraine is on par with Sweden?

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

The average Russian has access to 100 times more accurate information about Ukraine than you ever will

lmao

 

[Deleted member 16819]

He mentioned nuclear option and genocide against russians who don't support him. That's clear rhetoric for someone that is very stressed; angry and in a losing position.

 

[444]

lmao

It's true. You don't speak Russian and you don't use telegram or VK. The war is being reported most accurately through russian and ukrainian telegram channels, not CNN

 

[BigBiceps]

I thought western europeans considered slavic people to be inferior? western europeans have been slandering and hating eastern europeans for decades, now suddenly Ukraine is on par with Sweden?

Not really. Western Europe always hated Soviet Union and everything it represented, but not the people. At least my opinion is that the people can be good despite living under a rotten system.

 

[turkproducer]

USA has been doing it in some shitholes nobody really cares of anyway. If US suddenly invaded say Sweden for example, the backlash would be unimaginable.

and that’s not right lol

partly why those countries are shitholes is because of outside interference

 

[Deleted member 18086]

i dont understand why they keep fighting at this point

 

[Deleted member 15067]

Source: Zelenksys discord server

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Source: Zelenksys discord server

cope

 

[hebbewem]

Cope

 

[TsarTsar444]

You do realize that they don't want to occupy the country, they want to force Ukraine to sign a paper to never join NATO, to massively lowwr its military spending, to accept Crimea as part of Russia. So there won't be any guerilla war jfl

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

You do realize that they don't want to occupy the country, they want to force Ukraine to sign a paper to never join NATO, to massively lowwr its military spending, to accept Crimea as part of Russia. So there won't be any guerilla war jfl

if they could they would've installed some puppet gov there like 2 weeks ago. don't delude yourself.

 

[Deleted member 16819]

You do realize that they don't want to occupy the country, they want to force Ukraine to sign a paper to never join NATO, to massively lowwr its military spending, to accept Crimea as part of Russia. So there won't be any guerilla war jfl

Their original plan was 100% to install a puppet government or even annex the country because they expected to be seen as liberators by the Ukrainians. People close around Putin said so on russian talkshows

Now that they realize that won't be possible anymore they changed the narrative to "we just want Ukraine to not join Nato and give us Crimea" so that Putin can sell it as a russian win to his country when that happens.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Their original plan was 100% to install a puppet government or even annex the country because they expected to be seen as liberators by the Ukrainians. People close around Putin said so on russian talkshows (so no muh fake news by western media)

Now that they realize that won't be possible anymore they changed the narrative to "we just want Ukraine to not join Nato and give us Crimea" so that Putin can sell it as a russian win to his country when that happens.

Sure, that could be true, but its not like this new plan isn't honest, they don't want a puppet government anymore, they know it will fail immediately, their goal is to definitely force Zelensky to concede to everything Russia is demanding right now

 

[Deleted member 16819]

Sure, that could be true, but its not like this new plan isn't honest, they don't want a puppet government anymore, they know it will fail immediately, their goal is to definitely force Zelensky to concede to everything Russia is demanding right now

Putin knows he fucked up. Crimea in exchange of having your economy catapulted back into the early 90's and becoming a pariah state. How is that a win ? Even if Ukraine became part of Nato they would have never posed any danger to Russia lmao. People around him are getting nervous and are either fleeing the country before the downfall or getting jailed. Russia is going to become a ricecel country once China is done buying everything there for free.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Putin knows he fucked up. Crimea in exchange of having your economy catapulted back into the early 90's and becoming a pariah state. How is that a win ? Even if Ukraine became part of Nato they would have never posed any danger to Russia lmao. People around him are getting nervous and are either fleeing the country before the downfall or getting jailed.

Yeah its definitely wierd that he did this, maybe he has cancer and just doesn't care jfl based if true

 

[Ronnie]

I thought the same. Russia is arguably in a worst position now than in day one. They have lost so many soldiers, equipment, and the sanctions have taken a toll on their economy.

 

[Deleted member 16819]

Putin would like no less than to retreat and just forget about it all. But he knows he can't because he's (politically) a dead man after his retreat. So he just mindlessly continues the war with no clear direction anymore.

 

[Deleted member 4106]

It doesn't matter if he wins or loses, Russia is having huge economic losses
When the war is over russia will be poorer than ever

I'm curious to know if he's going to use nuclear bombs

 

[AlexAP]

The world in 2030:

 

[OldRooster]

Russia is losing. But so is Ukraine, or whatever is left of it.

 

[Deleted member 7580]

The world in 2030:
View attachment 1604522

Russian girls are cute
Their lives matter
Rather get rid of india and Iraq

 

[Magical Apple]

This has been going on for a month and Russian troops have hardly gotten anywhere and they've been running out of fuel/food supplies while Russia is getting raped by sanctions. Even some Kremlin figures are turning their backs on Putin now:

Putin Adviser Chubais Quits Over Ukraine War and Leaves Russia

Russian climate envoy Anatoly Chubais has stepped down and left the country, citing his opposition to President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the situation, becoming the highest-level official to break with the Kremlin over the invasion.

www.bloomberg.com

And even if they do manage to take over, they won't be able to do shit there because the resistance among people is absolutely massive and they'll have no choice but to go back home and try to clean up the mess. That's still a loss. Thousands of Russian soldiers died. The economy is fucked. Russia is isolated from the rest of the world.

Putin is an old fart who wanted to go down in history books as some sort of hero emperor and now he'll go down as a failure and war criminal. He upped his rhetoric about getting rid of "traitors" too as a cope because he knows the whole thing was a failure is bound to breed resistance. It's game over for him.​

when will you stop believing western propaganda, OP?

 

[AlexAP]

Russian girls are cute

They can be evacuated to other countries, no problem.

 

[Deleted member 16134]

This has been going on for a month and Russian troops have hardly gotten anywhere and they've been running out of fuel/food supplies while Russia is getting raped by sanctions. Even some Kremlin figures are turning their backs on Putin now:

Putin Adviser Chubais Quits Over Ukraine War and Leaves Russia

Russian climate envoy Anatoly Chubais has stepped down and left the country, citing his opposition to President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the situation, becoming the highest-level official to break with the Kremlin over the invasion.

www.bloomberg.com

And even if they do manage to take over, they won't be able to do shit there because the resistance among people is absolutely massive and they'll have no choice but to go back home and try to clean up the mess. That's still a loss. Thousands of Russian soldiers died. The economy is fucked. Russia is isolated from the rest of the world.

Putin is an old fart who wanted to go down in history books as some sort of hero emperor and now he'll go down as a failure and war criminal. He upped his rhetoric about getting rid of "traitors" too as a cope because he knows the whole thing was a failure is bound to breed resistance. It's game over for him.​

never unlike me they are too full copium
sanctions won't be lifted even if russia widraws and putin is removed
the west will demand the total demilitarization denuclearization of russian and will chop it up into many countries
tbh most leader of the world are war criminals and that's irrelevant anyways civilians die in a war

 

[Deleted member 16134]

The world in 2030:
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Oh yeah, it's over for Putin and over for Russia because a corrupt oligarch left his government job and the Ukrainians claim they have killed 10 trillion russians

this oligarch was responsible for the dissolution of the soviet union remember

 

[ConspiracyTheory]

If Putin is losing, buckle up buckaroo. That motherfucker is unstable enough he will use nukes and not give a fuck at all.
I was really hoping he would win and do away with the human trafficking, money laundering, Jew controlled hellhole that is Ukraine though.

 

[AlexAP]

JFL at this:

Korotchenko surmised, “It’s obvious that the process of denazification of Ukraine will take the minimum of 15-20 years.” He predicted that the Russian troops would have to remain on Ukrainian territory, with the Russian military in charge of the entire country for the foreseeable future: “Whether this will take 15, 20 years or more, time will tell.”

General Shamanov was even more pessimistic, as he grimly anticipated that it would take the “re-education” of at least two generations of Ukrainians before they would welcome or tolerate Russia’s dominance. He also noted that Russia’s one-million-man armed forces aren’t enough to meet such a challenge, calling for massive increases to the country’s military might. Shamalov concluded: “Today, it can be clearly predicted that we will have to remain in Ukraine for 30-40 years.”

Kremlin TV Bursts Into Screaming Match Over Putin’s Failures

There’s no hiding the cracks that have formed on Russian airwaves over the war in Ukraine any longer.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Deleted member 15338]

This thread is further proof you are retarded, i knew it

 

[Deleted member 15669]

man how fucking delusional are you wars last for years ur fucking expecting the 2nd biggest country in europe to be occupied in a month?

 

[Deleted member 15004]

It took Germany 35 days to take Poland lmao keep crying for Russian chads that are running trains on Ukrainian foids

 

[Full-time Ascension]

When will you admit you are a delusional CIA rat? Who cares if Putin will be viewed as a war criminal in the West? The US and Western Europe have terrorized the world for centuries

just funny how the west can and has been doing what he does and nobody cares, but he can do it and he’s a muh evil dictator man and gets shamed in the shekel media

he literally doesn’t give a fuck about sanctions. sanctions for invading a country is a piss poor response.you’re also forgetting how much oil russia supplies to the world, why do you think the prices have doubled or more?

anyway at the end of the day i would prefer no wars but the hypocrisy is real

This has nothing to do with the thread, the thread is about the fact that Russia is losing the war in Ukraine

 

[AlexAP]

The biggest Russian warship has been destroyed by a country that doesn't have a navy. JFL

 

[CFW432]

Russians has been holding back and have been treating ukraine with kid gloves tbh, which is retarded lmao cause anyone can see that most ukranians are united against Russia and Russian occupation.