Where did the redpill cope that prime women want older men originate from??

[Deleted member 14203]

This cope can be quickly evicerated by running a tinder experiment of 24 YO Chad vs 32 YO Chad and swiping on 18-22 YO women.


Also, I'm a college student, and I work jobs with young prime women. I'm around these hoes a lot... They aren't all dating rich 30 year olds like redpill would have you believe. Most of them are dating (getting pumped and dumped) by 20 Year old chads that work at McDonald's and live in their moms basement JFL. I don't know a single girl dating a 30 year old.


There probably is truth that a women generally wants a guy to be older them them, maybe by a few years. But your average 19 year old girl wants absolutely nothing to do with some 30 year old balding guy who has a good job. She would take 20 Year old Chad living in his mom's basement any day.


Maybe 30 year old Chad can still get young women. But In reality, if you are a Normie your late teens early-mid twenties are probably your best years to get genuine attraction from prime women. Your average 30 year old Normie will never get with a prime women unless she is only attracted to his bank account. I was browsing the red pill subreddit, and there was a guy legit telling some 18 year old NOT to focus on dating at all because he has no hope with women his age. Worst advice one could possibly give


I just don't know where the cope even comes from. Maybe they are just exaggerating the fact that 4-5 year age gaps are common. I don't think 10+ year age gaps are very common AT ALL.

 

[WontStopNorwooding]

What do you mean bro?
Older men are clearly more attractive.

 

[Deleted member 14203]

What do you mean bro?
Older men are clearly more attractive.
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The other thing is I doubt a lot of the redpillers even have the money to afford prime gold diggers. Men with a successful career don't go on fucking reddit.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

just desperate incels and people over 30 have to cope with something. this meme is as old as humanity itself.

The fact that most people dont go out and dont have friends who are in a relationship with someone also helps in delusions

 

[germanlooks]

They actually want older men (obv not too old) but when girls say that they mean good and young looking older men.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

The truth is somewhere in the middle.

 

[Deleted member 14203]

The truth is somewhere in the middle.

I agree. 19-25 is probably a realistic age gap. But only a small percentage of guys (chads who don't bald and have good bones) will ever pull off 19-30. Unless it is just a glorified prostitution deal.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

I agree. 19-25 is probably a realistic age gap. But only a small percentage of guys (chads who don't bald and have good bones) will ever pull off 19-30. Unless it is just a glorified prostitution deal.

A lot of chicks have sugar daddies/are escorts. But yeah.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

A lot of chicks have sugar daddies/are escorts. But yeah.

that isnt a high percentage of women (especially nowadays when the pay inequality is leveling off or woman can simply start onlyfans) and mainly its not a real attraction, but only a certain type of business.

Most men still dont reach a certain amount of money or status to afford woman like that.

 

[Deleted member 11604]

This cope can be quickly evicerated by running a tinder experiment of 24 YO Chad vs 32 YO Chad and swiping on 18-22 YO women.


Also, I'm a college student, and I work jobs with young prime women. I'm around these hoes a lot... They aren't all dating rich 30 year olds like redpill would have you believe. Most of them are dating (getting pumped and dumped) by 20 Year old chads that work at McDonald's and live in their moms basement JFL. I don't know a single girl dating a 30 year old.


There probably is truth that a women generally wants a guy to be older them them, maybe by a few years. But your average 19 year old girl wants absolutely nothing to do with some 30 year old balding guy who has a good job. She would take 20 Year old Chad living in his mom's basement any day.


Maybe 30 year old Chad can still get young women. But In reality, if you are a Normie your late teens early-mid twenties are probably your best years to get genuine attraction from prime women. Your average 30 year old Normie will never get with a prime women unless she is only attracted to his bank account. I was browsing the red pill subreddit, and there was a guy legit telling some 18 year old NOT to focus on dating at all because he has no hope with women his age. Worst advice one could possibly give


I just don't know where the cope even comes from. Maybe they are just exaggerating the fact that 4-5 year age gaps are common. I don't think 10+ year age gaps are very common AT ALL.

link to this copium thread, and comment?

 

[Reckless Turtle]

These studies indicate that there's a disproportionate amount of sex/relationships had with age gaps between young women and older men. I'm certainly not claiming "genuine burning desire" though.

Share of U.S. adults who are single varies by demographic groups

www.pewresearch.org

@Rupert Pupkin

 

[wristcel]

they even take is a step further on reddit and shit lol. Like on the agegap subs and stuff

If a guy over 30 talks about some hot 17 year old or something, everyone always says 'That's not fair! At your age you can get any girl under 18 because of your age. You have more life experience and can manipulate her into sex. That's wrong. Go for older women!'

Makes me laugh so hard. IMagine thinking some really fat ugly 35 year old can bang these girls just because of the fact he's 35 and they're teens!!

 

[wristcel]

Maybe 30 year old Chad can still get young women

yeah, there are exceptions. One of my haunting memories is of a giga chad who was a friend of a friend. He was like 31. We were at some family street bbq/party. A cab of teenager girls pulled it. It was the daughter of one of the guys on the street and her friends. 15 years old, The daughter was hot as fuck! 9/10 jailbait. 15-16 years old. After a few minutes she basically approaches chad as we are all drinking and stuff. They make small talk, and before you knew it, he took her to one of the neighbours gardens and fucked her raw.

Suicide inducing for me at the time lol. Only upside was i got to see her snatch as he showed me the pics she'd been sending him a few weeks later lol

 

[Gonthar]

Also, I'm a college student, and I work jobs with young prime women. I'm around these hoes a lot... They aren't all dating rich 30 year olds like redpill would have you believe. Most of them are dating (getting pumped and dumped) by 20 Year old chads that work at McDonald's and live in their moms basement JFL. I don't know a single girl dating a 30 year old.

There probably is truth that a women generally wants a guy to be older them them, maybe by a few years. But your average 19 year old girl wants absolutely nothing to do with some 30 year old balding guy who has a good job. She would take 20 Year old Chad living in his mom's basement any day.

Yes, when I was in college I saw the same thing - all the girls were partying and banging the hottest dudes. But after college was over, most of them would settle down and would marry some guys that a year before wouldn't have had any chance with them - short/bald/ugly/older/etc. - but they had good jobs, a car, a place of their own, etc...
Around 20 years ago, most girls would marry shortly after finishing college around the age 22-25, but now this age is steadily increasing, many girls still want to party, bang hot guys, focus on their career and marry only later.
So now it's highly unlikely for an older guy with money to get a girl in her 20s who wants to settle down, he will have to take one in her 30s...

 

[Deleted member 14203]

Yes, when I was in college I saw the same thing - all the girls were partying and banging the hottest dudes. But after college was over, most of them would settle down and would marry some guys that a year before wouldn't have had any chance with them - short/bald/ugly/older/etc. - but they had good jobs, a car, a place of their own, etc...
Around 20 years ago, most girls would marry shortly after finishing college around the age 22-25, but now this age is steadily increasing, many girls still want to party, bang hot guys, focus on their career and marry only later.
So now it's highly unlikely for an older guy with money to get a girl in her 20s who wants to settle down, he will have to take one in her 30s...

Well also there are a handful of women under 25 who do legit LTR with non-chads. Not a lot, but they definitely exist. I wouldn't call it "settling down" but they aren't partying and hoeing around either. Even they aren't going for these big age gaps.


Might be skewed because it doesn't really take until 30 to afford a place a car where I live JFL. Lots of tech money here and it's not uncommon for 21/22 year olds to have a Tesla and a luxury apartment. Probably doesn't apply to everywhere but at least in my city you need actual fuck you money if you wanna betabux.

 

[LocalDanger]

yeah, there are exceptions. One of my haunting memories is of a giga chad who was a friend of a friend. He was like 31. We were at some family street bbq/party. A cab of teenager girls pulled it. It was the daughter of one of the guys on the street and her friends. 15 years old, The daughter was hot as fuck! 9/10 jailbait. 15-16 years old. After a few minutes she basically approaches chad as we are all drinking and stuff. They make small talk, and before you knew it, he took her to one of the neighbours gardens and fucked her raw.

Suicide inducing for me at the time lol. Only upside was i got to see her snatch as he showed me the pics she'd been sending him a few weeks later lol

Srs or larp man be honest doesn't sound real.

Did he fraud his age I can't imagine that going down if she knew he was 25+

What was Chad look alike any pics ?

 

[wristcel]

Srs or larp man be honest doesn't sound real.

Did he fraud his age I can't imagine that going down if she knew he was 25+

What was Chad look alike any pics ?

100% real. No reason to lie. It's a sad story for me lol! (some dude banging my idea of a 9/10 jailbait!)
Don't know if he frauded his age or not. He could certainly have passed for maybe 25 I guess.
Tempted to post his pic but probably shouldn't as he could be found fairly easily (was in the squad of a massive premier league team, but only as a reserve and not famous, although it means there's likely lots of pics of him out there)

In terms of looks, he's very tall (6ft 4ish), blue eyes, dark hair. Can't think of people he looks like really. Maybe a little bit like a young Liam Gallacher!?

edit: Fuck it. Not the best pic of him but that's him

 

[LocalDanger]

100% real. No reason to lie. It's a sad story for me lol! (some dude banging my idea of a 9/10 jailbait!)
Don't know if he frauded his age or not. He could certainly have passed for maybe 25 I guess.
Tempted to post his pic but probably shouldn't as he could be found fairly easily (was in the squad of a massive premier league team, but only as a reserve and not famous, although it means there's likely lots of pics of him out there)

In terms of looks, he's very tall (6ft 4ish), blue eyes, dark hair. Can't think of people he looks like really. Maybe a little bit like a young Liam Gallacher!?

edit: Fuck it. Not the best pic of him but that's him

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Damn you delivered bro lol.Yeah if he is that tall plus face true Chad. Curious if there is more pics if you can send.

But are you sure she was that young and he pulled it off? That's hardest part to believe. How didn't anyone found out and destroyed his status? Like it's soo taboo among norimes plus he is famous.

Also maybe it's status pill did she know him before or was he a random?

 

[wristcel]

Damn you delivered bro lol.Yeah if he is that tall plus face true Chad. Curious if there is more pics if you can send.

But are you sure she was that young and he pulled it off? That's hardest part to believe. How didn't anyone found out and destroyed his status? Like it's soo taboo among norimes plus he is famous.

Also maybe it's status pill did she know him before or was he a random?

Well this is the uk.
Age of consent is 16 so it was fine. We don't have any age gap laws. All of us thought it was cool and were jealous lol. No bad came of it.
He wasn't famous at all. He was just a reserve player for a massive premier league side.

It was random. She had no idea who he was. Just 5 or 6 of us drinking in the street. She approached us to talk to the one guy in my group who she knew (neighbour). And then just fell into a short convo with the super chad. It was evening time now. We were all drunk. Then he took her to the one of the neighbours gardens and fucked her. And banged her for a few weeks after too which is when he shoeed me her pussy pic lol

 

[LocalDanger]

Well this is the uk.
Age of consent is 16 so it was fine. We don't have any age gap laws. All of us thought it was cool and were jealous lol. No bad came of it.
He wasn't famous at all. He was just a reserve player for a massive premier league side.

It was random. She had no idea who he was. Just 5 or 6 of us drinking in the street. She approached us to talk to the one guy in my group who she knew (neighbour). And then just fell into a short convo with the super chad. It was evening time now. We were all drunk. Then he took her to the one of the neighbours gardens and fucked her. And banged her for a few weeks after too which is when he shoeed me her pussy pic lol

Damn crazy story man.

I imagine his game must be also inasne like confidence and escalation nt levels ECT to pull it off that easy lol. Did she know his age later on jfl?

Btw is he Chad by psl standards? Like he seems crazy appeal in that pic due to blue eyes halo and jawline so irl Chad def by my definition but by psl he seems to have narrowish and longish face. Also seems a bit flat like he doesn't have crazy forward growth ect plus downard grown. Is that correct? It seems psl again gets some things right but overrates importance of others

 

[wristcel]

I imagine his game must be also inasne like confidence and escalation nt levels ECT to pull it off that easy lol. Did she know his age later on jfl?

I don't think he has 'game' as such. Not in the traditional sense where 'game'=charisma. He's actually a fairly boring guy lol. He is 'nt' I guess, though. Wouldn't give him too much credit. When a girl is really into you, it's obvious, and when you know shes' attracted, escalating and stuff is easy as Fuck. She's doing half the work don't forget lol. It's not like some PUA constantly trying to 'build attraction' and pass shit tests and escalate in a way to not scare her off etc etc.

Don't know if she ever knew his age or not.

Yeah, face is a bit long and stuff, but he was always getting looks and approached and stuff.

 

[LocalDanger]

I don't think he has 'game' as such. Not in the traditional sense where 'game'=charisma. He's actually a fairly boring guy lol. He is 'nt' I guess, though. Wouldn't give him too much credit. When a girl is really into you, it's obvious, and when you know shes' attracted, escalating and stuff is easy as Fuck. She's doing half the work don't forget lol. It's not like some PUA constantly trying to 'build attraction' and pass shit tests and escalate in a way to not scare her off etc etc.

Don't know if she ever knew his age or not.

Yeah, face is a bit long and stuff, but he was always getting looks and approached and stuff.

What's up with him now lol did he finally descended and felt suffering a bit

 

[wristcel]

What's up with him now lol did he finally descended and felt suffering a bit

Not spoke to him since before covid, but at the time he was in a relationship with a gorgeous girl.
I think she was maybe 24 or so?

 

[LocalDanger]

Not spoke to him since before covid, but at the time he was in a relationship with a gorgeous girl.
I think she was maybe 24 or so?

Lol damn these guys always seem to win jfl brutal

So jb story is recent

 

[wristcel]

Lol damn these guys always seem to win jfl brutal

So jb story is recent

no, that story was from a few years back. Maybe 4 years?

 

[lasthope]

100% real. No reason to lie. It's a sad story for me lol! (some dude banging my idea of a 9/10 jailbait!)
Don't know if he frauded his age or not. He could certainly have passed for maybe 25 I guess.
Tempted to post his pic but probably shouldn't as he could be found fairly easily (was in the squad of a massive premier league team, but only as a reserve and not famous, although it means there's likely lots of pics of him out there)

In terms of looks, he's very tall (6ft 4ish), blue eyes, dark hair. Can't think of people he looks like really. Maybe a little bit like a young Liam Gallacher!?

edit: Fuck it. Not the best pic of him but that's him

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holy shit
chad
nw0
have you a side pic of him?
is his maxilla forward grown?

edit: does he have a tan also?

 

[thickdickdaddy27]

some users like to cope that hair is all u need to slay young girls at an old age and they couldn’t be coping more. fact of the matter is u need youthful everything: hair, skin, muscularity, posture, stamina, and everything else that comes with being young

 

[BrendioEEE]

Older men just have more status, money, and experience, so they can more easily groom and manipulate younger women.

 

[Deleted member 3573]

they even take is a step further on reddit and shit lol. Like on the agegap subs and stuff

If a guy over 30 talks about some hot 17 year old or something, everyone always says 'That's not fair! At your age you can get any girl under 18 because of your age. You have more life experience and can manipulate her into sex. That's wrong. Go for older women!'

Makes me laugh so hard. IMagine thinking some really fat ugly 35 year old can bang these girls just because of the fact he's 35 and they're teens!!

I heard this cope from vegan gains as well, the guy who debated wheat waffles. He really believes a 30 year old should have it easy with teen girls . He cringes at redpillers yet this line of thinking kinda comes from there too

 

[wristcel]

holy shit
chad
nw0
have you a side pic of him?
is his maxilla forward grown?

edit: does he have a tan also?

no profile pics, but his forward growth is nothing special at all. Average at best, tbh. It's mainly his height, his eyes, his jaw and his hair I guess.

Bit of a tan in that pic but other pics he's whiter

 

[RichmondBread]

It isn't a cope, but the caveat is usually older man must be successful and/or good looking.

 

[lasthope]

no profile pics, but his forward growth is nothing special at all. Average at best, tbh. It's mainly his height, his eyes, his jaw and his hair I guess.

Bit of a tan in that pic but other pics he's whiter

Does he have nasobial folds?
And does he have a long mandible?

 

[mulattomaxxer]

I don't know, but considering that the "red pill PUA" sphere is mostly filled with guys in their 30's it becomes apparent why this idea came into fruitition. Lets face it the majority of people purchasing these courses are that demographic. Middle aged men who struggle with women.

 

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To all the fools saying that younger chicks don't want older dudes

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Okay, which one of you who believe in that youthmaxxing crap is this?

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[Deleted member 11610]

The other thing is I doubt a lot of the redpillers even have the money to afford prime gold diggers. Men with a successful career don't go on fucking reddit.

I read somewhere that the average redditor had a salary of about 68k USD per year, I think this might have been from a specific subreddit though. Either way those same redditors are likely autistic as fuck soyboys in STEM careers anyway.

 

[Yliaster]

I think the fad of younger women wanting older men,came from 90's and early 2000's TV shows where a lot of High School girls would usually date older college guys as a flex to 1 up their peers.Or they would usually invite an older high status guy to prom to again flex on their peers like "this is how high my SMV is and I'm better than you Rebecca"

 

[Deleted member 15441]

18-21 Prime
22-26 Fading Prime
27-35 Post Prime

Prime 18-21 Do not want older men. They want Drunk Frat HTN and chadlites.

22-26 Want Youthful Financially Established 25-30 Year Olds

27-35 Want a betabux as any girl not married at this age is already in big introuble of finding anything decent.

 

[Deleted member 15595]

18-21 Prime

foids at that age range are used up cum buckets, that aint prime

 

[Dark Latino]

Women want to be dominated and lead on by men they feel more dominated from some older guy ,also men are very immature about relationships in younger age want only to fuck while older guys start to want something more serious.
Most women prefer slightly older guys this is well known I also always preffered younger girls than me

 

[Lolcel]

I agree with what you're saying but majority women have daddy issues this might be the reason and I've seen this first hand
Also older men are seen as mature , stable , not broke etc

I have talked to girls and many opened to wanting a partner much older than them tbh

Might be an outlier idk

 

[banjojones]

well in the boomer days boomer men got married at 24/25 (used to be the average marriage age) however when no-fault divorce came about they mass divorced their wives for younger women. (not uncommon for a 35 year old to get with a 22 year old). However this had MAJOR consequences.
#1. It EXACERBATED feminism (angry/older/spinster women who were divorced for younger hotter women)
#2. These older boomers dipped into GenX dating pool causing Gen X to dip into the millenial dating pool shrinking it further. Gen Z will be fucked! (these videos explain it better
)

-so yeah thanks a lot boomers!

 

[banjojones]

I was browsing the red pill subreddit, and there was a guy legit telling some 18 year old NOT to focus on dating at all because he has no hope with women his age. Worst advice one could possibly give I just don't know where the cope even comes from. Maybe they are just exaggerating the fact that 4-5 year age gaps are common. I don't think 10+ year age gaps are very common AT ALL.

I almost wonder if a lot of redpillers are either closet homosexuals or want to try to intentionally give bad advice in the hopes of poaching the young women we are all competing for. The closet homosexual part comes in when they talk about "clubbing" "hookups" "gangbangs" and shit like that (those/concepts/terms are homosexual in origin). Maybe what some redpill guys are trying to do is intentionally give bad dating advice to young men. Once they hit the male wall, they then groom those men into going gay. (more male sex partners for the "redpill guys" I mean look at some redpill channels some of these guys are "fruits"!