Which archetype would have better success irl

Which would have more success with the average woman.

  • Surfer/Old Money looks (Dirty blonde hair, tan asf, blue eyes)

    Votes: 35 81.4%
  • Vampire looks (Black hair, pale asf, blue eyes)

    Votes: 8 18.6%

  • Total voters
    43
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Feel like these are top 2

Trying to decide which one to pursue for myself

One benefit of 2nd is prioritizing getting no UV would allow me to age better
 
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surfer better success but vampire mogs. also look at your base. it should be easy to decide
 
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surfer better success but vampire mogs. also look at your base. it should be easy to decide
Well my base is definitely the surfer one, but it sucks bc I can’t tan in the winter. Being blonde and pale sucks ass

Honestly might just alternate, 2 during winter, 1 during summer
 
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Feel like these are top 2

Trying to decide which one to pursue for myself

One benefit of 2nd is prioritizing getting no UV would allow me to age better
feels like surfer archetype will surely get u more slays but vampire archetype is better for other aspects in life like intimidation, respect, serious jobs etc
 
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Well my base is definitely the surfer one, but it sucks bc I can’t tan in the winter. Being blonde and pale sucks ass

Honestly might just alternate, 2 during winter, 1 during summer
if ur already pale I would go with the second one, just dye ur hair black
 
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Well my base is definitely the surfer one, but it sucks bc I can’t tan in the winter. Being blonde and pale sucks ass

Honestly might just alternate, 2 during winter, 1 during summer
ever thought of dyeing your hair? also don't just look at the coloring, the way you're built and your facial features probably matter more
 
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ever thought of dyeing your hair? also don't just look at the coloring, the way you're built and your facial features probably matter more
Yes that’s what I would do if I decided to go with 2. Black or dark brown lashes, brows, and hair
 
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Ideal male smv wise is someone who looks like arthur morgan
 
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Yes that’s what I would do if I decided to go with 2. Black or dark brown lashes, brows, and hair
anyways I think the surfer archetype will get you more success with girls in 2025. but if you lean into the skinny vampire look it's more intimidating and will get you more respect
 
Feel like these are top 2

Trying to decide which one to pursue for myself

One benefit of 2nd is prioritizing getting no UV would allow me to age better
Vampire looks for sure
 
Vampire looks for sure
I’m very surprised it’s 11-2

Always thought the consensus on here was that pale, dark hair, and blue eyes was ideal
 
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I’m very surprised it’s 11-2

Always thought the consensus on here was that pale, dark hair, and blue eyes was ideal
People are delusional lol, just look up damon salvatore, david gandy, sean opry and many others, thats the ideal "look"
 
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I’m very surprised it’s 11-2

Always thought the consensus on here was that pale, dark hair, and blue eyes was ideal
@TechnoBoss r u suprsied by this?
 
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@TechnoBoss r u suprsied by this?
No not at all. Vampire looks are more of a niche and I find it personally better looking than the old money kind of archetype but overall, I think old money would have broader success with women. If I could choose one over the other I would still choose to have more of a vampire look but I still voted for old money in your poll.
 
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People are delusional lol, just look up damon salvatore, david gandy, sean opry and many others, thats the ideal "look"
Gandy has the more tall dark and handsome archetype
 
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IMO, tall dark and handsome look is ideal, but Surfer would suit you best.
 
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If you have dark eyes paler skin is better tan will just make you look more ethnic
 
If you have dark eyes paler skin is better tan will just make you look more ethnic
the way you're built and your facial features probably matter more
Me
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Dye your brows black and get a better haircut
Growing it out (my hair). Brows black look too uncanny with blonde hair. I’m gonna redye brows tn tho. Probably going to do medium brown
 
Growing it out (my hair). Brows black look to uncanny with blonde hair. I’m gonna redye brows tn tho. Probably going to do medium brown
Dark brown, ofc jet black will look weird but they need to be very dark, and short hair would prob fit you better
 
Dark brown, ofc jet black will look weird but they need to be very dark, and short hair would prob fit you better
Ok will do dark brown brows, black lashes. Gotta pick up some more dye
 
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No not at all. Vampire looks are more of a niche and I find it personally better looking than the old money kind of archetype but overall, I think old money would have broader success with women. If I could choose one over the other I would still choose to have more of a vampire look but I still voted for old money in your poll.
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Fuark black does kinda mog tho especially since I’m even paler now
 
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No not at all. Vampire looks are more of a niche and I find it personally better looking than the old money kind of archetype but overall, I think old money would have broader success with women. If I could choose one over the other I would still choose to have more of a vampire look but I still voted for old money in your poll.
highest appeal is disney prince looks, hands down. If op could become one, he would have a way broader appeal than the surfer or vampire archetype. But as a personal preference, between the blond surfer and the pale vampire, i would always prefer the later, way more ethereal, and that goes for both genders.
 
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A tan is ideal if you are white (not counting med here)
 
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how old are you? I think you would benefit from making your face more high trust, prince disney like, aka fixing lips and chin.
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Planning on Botox lip flip. What r u referring to chin wise was also planning on getting some filler for width. But if I had to assume ur referring to filling in the dimple
 
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If the "vampire" is white then yes
 
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Planning on Botox lip flip. What r u referring to chin wise was also planning on getting some filler for worst. But if I had to assume ur referring to filling in the dimple
making your chin unironically more rounded, less sharp. You want to look fully high trust, that would give you the biggest appeal. And making your nose more prettyboyish. imho.
 
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This is ideal tbh
 
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U need to change hairstyle curtains look extremely gay
I have absolutely no clue what to do with my hair. Never have, just always though mid part was safest option
 
making your chin unironically more rounded, less sharp. You want to look fully high trust, that would give you the biggest appeal. And making your nose more prettyboyish. imho.
Very interesting. Will start with lips tho.
 
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I have absolutely no clue what to do with my hair. Never have, just always though mid part was safest option
Try either a slickback or a side part, or a fringe if you like it. Curtains just look really bad (imo). You look pretty good from that pic so u would prob look good. U need some more texture cuz ur hair looks too flat
 
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I think for you surfer considering its already very fitting for you,also more professional and high class.

Knowing what i look like do you think i should stay pale? I don't have blue eyes
 
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I think for you surfer considering its already very fitting for you,also more professional and high class.

Knowing what i look like do you think i should stay pale? I don't have blue eyes
In your case imo tan would mog. But if u want to stay pale for anti aging purposes that is definitely valid
 
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depends which type girls you wanna attract
 

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