Which religion makes the most sense?

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

You aren't meant to relate to the creator of the simulation who programmed you.
The relationship is only one-sided,
Greek translations are prone to be inaccurate, this is something to keep in mind also.

Attributing certain characteristics to the creator is also very low sentience behaviour.
As this means you believe your frequency matches to that of someone outside your realm who operates it.

About the Holy texts being written by the creator himself, this is not really arguable.
The sane idea is that God talks to man through synchronicities and whispers.
This therefore makes it possible for the selected individual to spread the message to the selected population, a prophecy.
The old testament was not written by a normal human, rather a projection of Godly words towards text by the means of humanoidals.
This however does not mean that God came in his mighty idolatry-like pagan form and wrote it himself!

Interestingly phrased I agree with some disagree with the others. But if I weren’t a Christian I’d prob hold your view

 

[Lulleko]

Hinduism would mog if it wasn't practiced by pajeets tbh.

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

I get your point. It’s that Allah can do whatever he wants. I get that but this isn’t a matter of him doing “what he wants” this is an brutal internal critique and brutalises your philosophy and theology

Allah unlike anything in creation. He cannot be compared to anything and he doesn’t condescend to anything.

This means as I said your Quran being the LITERAL uncreated ETERNAL word of Allah cannot be because Allahs word being intrinsic to Allah cannot be understood by humans because it has no similarity to creation and yet you have a book (creation) with ink and lapsed (creation) and leather or plastic (creation) to explain the uncreated whilst saying that that created booklet explained the ineffable uncreated eternal completely dissimilar God’s will.

It’s just ludicrous.

This also destroys the Islamic belief of occasionalism and Atomism which also requires your GOD TO BE IN CAUSAL CHAINS TO IMPACT CREATION AND YET HE ISNT IF YOU ASK ANY AQEEDAH. So Islamic atomism is literally IMPOSSIBLE


Islam is philosophically impossible to follow.

You missed my point about you bringing up a variant of the rock paradox

 

[Deleted member 122979]

You arguing that Traditional Satanism aligns well with evolutionary drives?

Christianity emphasizes communal values such as love, forgiveness, and altruism, which foster cooperation and group cohesion.
In contrast, traditional Satanism's focus on individualism prioritize personal success but risks compromising group cohesion, which is crucial for long-term evolutionary success. Christian teachings encourage family structures, marital fidelity, and raising children within a stable environment. This supports evolutionary success. Satanism, with its emphasis on personal freedom, dosent not prioritize these familial and reproductive strategies.

While Satanism alligns with individualistic evolutionary strategies, Christianity’s emphasis on community, family, morality, and cultural longevity better supports the collective survival and flourishing of human societies. These traits, in turn, make Christianity more aligned with evolutionary success, as it facilitates both the survival of individuals and the propagation of groups across generations.

It’s not impossible for individualists to organize. Individualists won’t comprise an organization without benefit and will collectivize dynamically according to mutual benefit akin to trust in capitalism. Only collaboration with stupid individualists can lead to mutual harm.
Whereas altruists waste resources on needless centralization in which christian’s don’t try to gain power in these organizations they create leading outsiders to easily take power.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

You missed my point about you bringing up a variant of the rock paradox

Either way you have no answer. It’s the same thing i was trying to explain to @Jordan Barrett

He had questions about Christianity and the people around him failed to clarify so he became Muslim it’s not even his fault it’s the fault of church parishes for not teaching apooogetics to their congregation

 

[optimisticzoomer]

None because they all claim to know shit that's impossible to know. Probably Chinese religions

 

[Deleted member 117288]

None because they all claim to know shit that's impossible to know. Probably Chinese religions

This opinion is shared by the majority.
It's just that they keep it lowkey irl

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Either way you have no answer. It’s the same thing i was trying to explain to @Jordan Barrett

He had questions about Christianity and the people around him failed to clarify so he became Muslim it’s not even his fault it’s the fault of church parishes for not teaching apooogetics to their congregation

Eh, those who cant understand cant understand. Sucks to hear that man.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

This opinion is shared by the majority.
It's just that they keep it lowkey irl

Which opinion? That most don't follow a religion? I know

 

[Deleted member 117288]

This is comical.

 

[blackrockjewmanlet]

judaism is OG religion. Islam and Christianity are just cheap copies from temu

 

[Deleted member 120596]

Christianity

3 gods in 1, lad

 

[Deleted member 120596]

judaism is OG religion. Islam and Christianity are just cheap copies from temu

Found the Jew

 

[blackrockjewmanlet]

Found the Jew
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oy vey goyim started noticing

 

[Deleted member 101844]

Demonolatry , its the only one that truly works

 

[Mizi44]

None of them make sense

Get a load of this guy no wonder he is blue sitting here

 

[Mizi44]

oy vey goyim started noticing

Shalom

 

[Deleted member 89128]

Either way you have no answer. It’s the same thing i was trying to explain to @Jordan Barrett

He had questions about Christianity and the people around him failed to clarify so he became Muslim it’s not even his fault it’s the fault of church parishes for not teaching apooogetics to their congregation

Incorrect, I was a orthodox Greek Christian as a child and my first prayer at 6 years old I was thinking "why am I praying towards a man"

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Incorrect, I was a orthodox Greek Christian as a child and my first prayer at 6 years old I was thinking "why am I praying towards a man"

You never knew the religion, you were born into it but never understood it that’s your church and your families fault btw so what you said means nothing, I already told you my story wasn’t that different from yours. The truth is you never got given a good answer that’s the point and so you left if your surrounded by illiterates who can’t explain their beliefs then ofc you’ll leave. I didn’t understand the trinity and nobody gave me a good answer but unlike you i didn’t become a retard and leave i did research to see if it was legit most my friends are Muslim btw so I did research into Islam and Christianity and Christianity makes far more sense than Islam I made that very clear in this thread even the Muslims in this thread cannot debunk me Allah literally makes no logical sense how is the Quran the word of Allah but Allah is unlike anything in creation?

 

[blackrockjewmanlet]

Found the Jew

 

[Deleted member 91099]

Get a load of this guy no wonder he is blue sitting here

C

 

[Deleted member 89128]

You never knew the religion, you were born into it but never understood it that’s your church and your families fault btw so what you said means nothing, I already told you my story wasn’t that different from yours. The truth is you never got given a good answer that’s the point and so you left if your surrounded by illiterates who can’t explain their beliefs then ofc you’ll leave. I didn’t understand the trinity and nobody gave me a good answer but unlike you i didn’t become a retard and leave i did research to see if it was legit most my friends are Muslim btw so I did research into Islam and Christianity and Christianity makes far more sense than Islam I made that very clear in this thread even the Muslims in this thread cannot debunk me Allah literally makes no logical sense how is the Quran the word of Allah but Allah is unlike anything in creation?

I studied Christianity when I was older and it's still mogged by islam bro idk what to tell you.

 

[Deleted member 89128]

Islam simply because only 1 god and he's all powerful and all knowing

strip away everything in islam and only leave this info and it's still the best one there is.

I feel like everyone in their heart of hearts know that its not some complex trinity or infinite gods, it's literally just 1 all powerful being.

 

[Deleted member 89128]

I get your point. It’s that Allah can do whatever he wants. I get that but this isn’t a matter of him doing “what he wants” this is an brutal internal critique and brutalises your philosophy and theology

Allah unlike anything in creation. He cannot be compared to anything and he doesn’t condescend to anything.

This means as I said your Quran being the LITERAL uncreated ETERNAL word of Allah cannot be because Allahs word being intrinsic to Allah cannot be understood by humans because it has no similarity to creation and yet you have a book (creation) with ink and lapsed (creation) and leather or plastic (creation) to explain the uncreated whilst saying that that created booklet explained the ineffable uncreated eternal completely dissimilar God’s will.

It’s just ludicrous.

This also destroys the Islamic belief of occasionalism and Atomism which also requires your GOD TO BE IN CAUSAL CHAINS TO IMPACT CREATION AND YET HE ISNT IF YOU ASK ANY AQEEDAH. So Islamic atomism is literally IMPOSSIBLE


Islam is philosophically impossible to follow.

either God is all-powerful or he isn't.

and this complete gibberish about the semantics and impossibly complex ideas shrunken down to the human pov is childish bro.

GOD is eternal, uncreated. he created matter. he created time. to try and think and comprehend past this statement is pointless and we will never understand.

 

[Deleted member 62787]

Hinduism/Christianity/Islam/Buddhism and why?

Christianity makes the most sense the rest are gabboldygoog

 

[Ur fav sub 5]

strip away everything in islam and only leave this info and it's still the best one there is.

I feel like everyone in their heart of hearts know that its not some complex trinity or infinite gods, it's literally just 1 all powerful being.

Fr bro it's that easy

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

either God is all-powerful or he isn't.

and this complete gibberish about the semantics and impossibly complex ideas shrunken down to the human pov is childish bro.

GOD is eternal, uncreated. he created matter. he created time. to try and think and comprehend past this statement is pointless and we will never understand.

I answered all this in my first comment on this entire thread as a Muslim who never knew Christianity even if you claim to be born as one you NEVER were one I’d advise you read it and learn.

God is all powerful Amen to that

The next part isn’t semantics it’s called logic. Your god isn’t knowable because he says he is unlike anything in creation and doesn’t condescended to creation, this is supported by Islamic Tanzih (transcendence) doctrine which is core to Islamic view of Allah.

Now the Quran the eternal tablet of Allah is intrinsic to him as in its equally him in the sense of it belonging to him and being one with him then explain as I ask every Muslim how does the created written down Quran reference in ANY WAY the ETERNAL UNCREATED word of Allah?

If Allah is completely removed from the created order that also includes his word equally which means we have no way of knowing Allah for we are “created” which means the Quran with its ink its paper and plastic/leather to make the book in no way reflects Allah even the word “Allah” is meaningless because it doesn’t reference it.

Islam fails and falls short at its most crucial part of its theology, its holy books veracity.

As you said God created everything time and matter but God himself in Quran says he’s completely divorced and in no way likens himself to matter which your scholars agree with, so I’m asking you how then can he CONTRADICT himself to become a book (his word) in time and space as material to be understood by created beings (humans) which use their created brains to interpret the text.

Logically it makes no sense and you know it brother

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Fr bro it's that easy

strip away everything in islam and only leave this info and it's still the best one there is.

I feel like everyone in their heart of hearts know that its not some complex trinity or infinite gods, it's literally just 1 all powerful being.

Once again as I said read my first comment on this thread for the truth

You claim to had been a Christian and yet you say nonsense such as “ just one powerful being” you realise Christian’s believe this right? God the “entity” the “being” is ONE for what makes up the being Is it’s nature.

Next time actually state what we believe instead of just using dawah nonsense. Anyways maybe your hearts hardened and that’s a shame but oh well

 

[Deleted member 89128]

You claim to had been a Christian and yet you say nonsense such as “ just one powerful being” you realise Christian’s believe this right? God the “entity” the “being” is ONE for what makes up the being Is it’s nature.

Next time actually state what we believe instead of just using dawah nonsense. Anyways maybe your hearts hardened and that’s a shame but oh well

no, christians believe that Jesus is GOD but also GOD is GOD.

does he have Dissociative Identity Disorder? if Jesus was eating bread was GOD also doing the exact same motions while being in heaven?? what???

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

no, christians believe that Jesus is GOD but also GOD is GOD.

does he have Dissociative Identity Disorder? if Jesus was eating bread was GOD also doing the exact same motions while being in heaven?? what???

We believe Jesus is god. Is is multi personal

Disassociating identity order would be Modalism heresy.


Christology
Christians believe that Jesus is one divine Person who has two natures: one divine (eternal and uncreated) and one human (created). When Jesus ate bread, He did so through His human nature, just like any human eats food. However, His divine nature is not limited by human actions or space, so God the Son (the second Person of the Trinity) was still fully united with the Father and the Holy Spirit in heaven.

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit share one essence and one will, meaning they always work perfectly together, without division. Jesus’ actions on Earth as a man were in perfect harmony with the will of God, not as separate beings, but as one God who became man to fulfill His purpose.





First Principle (foundational starting point) and the Second Principle (identification and differentiation)

The First Principle in the Trinity corresponds to God’s oneness or unity of essence. It asserts that God is fundamentally one in His being or substance (ousia in Greek). This oneness is foundational and indivisible, forming the basis for everything else in Christian theology.

Category Application: The Trinity organizes its distinct Persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) under the unifying category of one divine essence. This essence is indivisible and eternal.





The Second Principle relates to identification and differentiation within the unified essence of God. This is where the Trinity introduces three distinct Persons each fully & equally god.

Identification Application: The Second Principle ensures that within the unity of God, the Persons are not confused or collapsed into one another. It establishes a relational framework, where each Person is uniquely identified without dividing the essence.



Conclusion of both
1. First Principle (Unity of Essence): Just as God’s essence is one, creation reflects a unified order and coherence.

2. Second Principle (Differentiation): Within that unity, creation is diverse, relational, and structured, mirroring the relational distinctions of the Trinity.

This relationality in God is what allows us Christian’s to affirm that God is both transcendent and immanent:



Why is islam wrong ?

Neither Islam (with its strict Tawhid) nor Judaism (with its singular personhood of God) can offer a model that explains how unity and diversity are grounded in ultimate reality:

Tawhid and Jewish Monotheism: God is strictly one and indivisible, but this makes it impossible to explain the relationality and diversity found in creation which is why Allah cannot be real.

why is Christ true

In philosophical terms, this resolves the problem of the One and the Many because God’s unity (the First Principle) provides the ground for all being, while His relational diversity (the Second Principle) allows for complexity and relationship within that unity.

 

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[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

@JeanneDArcAlter i actually answered your question about “why can’t alllah do that” in my last response here so umm yeah you go check it out brother I’ll put it in bold for you

 

[Shortlegs]

Islam

 

[the_machinist_786]

Yeah it also allows you to feel a sense of community and spiritual connection with your native country and your ancestors. The Norse gods and Norse culture never really left Scandinavia, even today there's still traces of it in culture, like for example when it's thunderous weather, sometimes we say it's Tor beating his hammer. Even kings like Cnut the Great and Harald Hardrada endorsed Norse gods even though they were Christian:

A story told in both the Heimskringla and Flateyjarbók sagas of Harald Hardrada tells how the king and Þjóðólfr were walking in Trondheim one day and heard a tanner and a smith having a dispute; the king challenged the skáld to make a verse about the incident, but Þjóðólfr at first declined, since it would be inappropriate to his station, "seeing that I am called your Chief Skald".[1] The king then specified that he was to make the verses with the combatants being Sigurðr and Fafnir and then Thor and Geirröðr, but using kennings suited to the men's actual professions, both of which Þjóðólfr did, in a "playful tour de force".[3][4]

In Norway I regularly see people wearing Thor's hammers. I admire Finns who endorse Ukko, or Balts Perkunas, or Greeks who endorse Zeus, or Slavs Perun, and etc

This is the most logical solution to me other than the so-called Atheism type solutions like Deism, Atheism, Agnosticism, Neplatonism, non Paganistic Buddhism or even Christianity but it's harder to separate. It was like this for EVERYBODY throughout history. Prior to Buddhism, Abrahamic proselytization, and prior to early Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Hellenism proselytisation (these 3 were like milder spread and took place earlier and in a smaller region of influence like Anatolia, West Caucasus for Hellenism, South and Pan India for Hinduism, Zoroastrianism for main Iranian world and parts of Iraq with Persian influence)


I typed a whole list (there are more) in another thread:-

Naturally every ethnic group should have it's own religion e.g Germanic Paganism, Celtic Druidism, Slavic Paganism, Baltic Paganism, Finno-Ugric Paganism, early Zoroastrianism/Iranian Paganism, Arabic Paganism, Yahwism, Egyptian Polytheism, Sumerian religion, North Caucasian Paganism, Kartvelian Paganism, Armenian Paganism, Hellenistic religion, Roman Polytheism, Vedic religion, Dravidian Paganism, Tengrism, Scythian Paganism, etc.