Which should i get first. TEST E AND HCG OR HGH?.

[KLEORB]

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[foidrepeller271]

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Depends on what you want

 

[sroid]

If you want short term results test long term hgh (alot more factors)

 

[TheCutter]

If you want short term results test long term hgh (alot more factors)

isnt hgh only good when paired with AAS ?

 

[KLEORB]

Depends on what you want

mix of more dimo and bones.

 

[KLEORB]

isnt hgh only good when paired with AAS ?

yea.

 

[KLEORB]

Depends on what you want

ima be on TEST E and HCG for 8-12 Weeks see where im at and HGH for more than 6+ Months ill be running that for a while.

 

[TheCutter]

yea.

but then why u even ask id u should so test OR HGH (only) ?

 

[KLEORB]

but then why u even ask id u should so test OR HGH (only) ?

im getting both regardless im asking which should i get first. im on a budget until next week.

 

[foidrepeller271]

mix of more dimo and bones.

Test then but don’t expect much

 

[TheCutter]

did u checked ur baseline test and free test levels ?

 

[TheCutter]

Test then but don’t expect much

why dont expect much ( maybe hes a hyper responder idk )

 

[KLEORB]

Test then but don’t expect much

lol ur actually delu if u think HGH works more wonders than HGH.

 

[KLEORB]

why dont expect much ( maybe hes a hyper responder idk )

 

[TheCutter]

i have mild androgen sensitivity so yes

what are ur natty t and free t levels ?

 

[KLEORB]

what are ur natty t and free t levels ?

i don't have my paperwork atm im going back soon for bloodwork to check but last time my test was at 685 and free T 83 PG
I have a overReactive thyroid as well.
thyroids getting less reactive tho

 

[TheCutter]

i don't have my paperwork atm im going back soon for bloodwork to check but last time my test was at 685 and free T 83 PG
I have a overReactive thyroid as well.
thyroids getting less reactive tho

83 pg/ml = 83ng/l that would be nearly 2x the range from my lab for free t it goes from 12.3 -46.6 ng/l

good total t

 

[KLEORB]

83 pg/ml = 83ng/l that would be nearly 2x the range from my lab for free t it goes from 12.3 -46.6 ng/l

good total t

these were the number results at 15 years old im 18 now so those results r probably wayy off now.
not to mention that high of free T actually isnt ideal.

 

[TheCutter]

these were the number results at 15 years old im 18 now so those results r probably wayy off now.
not to mention that high of free T actually isnt ideal.

wym high of free t is not good ?

that’s why a men act like a men ( libido etc )

and why are u even pinning if u don’t want high free t bcs obv it
will also go out of range high

 

[KLEORB]

83 pg/ml = 83ng/l that would be nearly 2x the range from my lab for free t it goes from 12.3 -46.6 ng/l

good total t

could be a little higher or similar not sure, but i pack on muscle pretty easily without eating much at all.
i dont starve myself ofc

 

[KLEORB]

wym high of free t is not good ?

that’s why a men act like a men ( libido etc )

and why are u even pinning if u don’t want high free t bcs obv it
will also go out of range high

idk im delu icl

 

[KLEORB]

wym high of free t is not good ?

that’s why a men act like a men ( libido etc )

and why are u even pinning if u don’t want high free t bcs obv it
will also go out of range high

nah i do want high free T i was delu and thought it wasnt good enough.

 

[TheCutter]

nah i do want high free T i was delu and thought it wasnt good enough.

hahah gng

 

[TheCutter]

nah i do want high free T i was delu and thought it wasnt good enough.

but u think it’s worth to pin in ur case since u already got good natty levels and put in muscle easy ?

 

[foidrepeller271]

why dont expect much ( maybe hes a hyper responder idk )

Because testosterones efficacy and affinity when binding to the AR is moderate compared to things like 19nors

 

[KLEORB]

but u think it’s worth to pin in ur case since u already got good natty levels and put in muscle easy ?

yes

 

[TheCutter]

Because testosterones efficacy and affinity when binding to the AR is moderate compared to things like 19nors

yea but u also get more sides on 19nors like tren mental , physical

idk if its worth it for us here ( hobby sport )

also u dont want to be too mascular

what u think ?

 

[KLEORB]

yea but u also get more sides on 19nors like tren mental , physical

idk if its worth it for us here ( hobby sport )

also u dont want to be too mascular

what u think ?

can i show u myself in dms and u can rate my dimo?

 

[TheCutter]

can i show u myself in dms and u can rate my dimo?

yea i can if u want pm me

 

[yearnforlooks]

test

 

[KLEORB]

yea i can if u want pm me

i sent u PM

 

[TheCutter]

i sent u PM

5min i apply min

 

[foidrepeller271]

yea but u also get more sides on 19nors like tren mental , physical

idk if its worth it for us here ( hobby sport )

also u dont want to be too mascular

what u think ?

You also get more rewards and results, all sides can be combated with ancills

But I see what you’re saying, you’re too worried of the cons rather than the pros sadly

 

[TheCutter]

You also get more rewards and results, all sides can be combated with ancills

But I see what you’re saying, you’re too worried of the cons rather than the pros sadly

Yeah bro, in my opinion, you should always weigh the pros and cons; the ancillaries you need for 19-nors come with their own harsh side effects (like 5AR issues), so I think 200–500mg of Test and 6–12 IU of HGH offer the best ROI. Maybe a DHT derivative, though those can be problematic for hair and skin unless you're going through puberty, in which case a low-dose Test/high-dose non-aromatizing steroid stack works good for gains

 

[KLEORB]

Yeah bro, in my opinion, you should always weigh the pros and cons; the ancillaries you need for 19-nors come with their own harsh side effects (like 5AR issues), so I think 200–500mg of Test and 6–12 IU of HGH offer the best ROI. Maybe a DHT derivative, though those can be problematic for hair and skin unless you're going through puberty, in which case a low-dose Test/high-dose non-aromatizing steroid stack works good for gains

i was planning 150MG TEST E and 400 IU and 6-8IU HGH.

 

[KLEORB]

Yeah bro, in my opinion, you should always weigh the pros and cons; the ancillaries you need for 19-nors come with their own harsh side effects (like 5AR issues), so I think 200–500mg of Test and 6–12 IU of HGH offer the best ROI. Maybe a DHT derivative, though those can be problematic for hair and skin unless you're going through puberty, in which case a low-dose Test/high-dose non-aromatizing steroid stack works good for gains

also i sent u a link in the conversation section to the PM.

 

[foidrepeller271]

Yeah bro, in my opinion, you should always weigh the pros and cons; the ancillaries you need for 19-nors come with their own harsh side effects (like 5AR issues), so I think 200–500mg of Test and 6–12 IU of HGH offer the best ROI. Maybe a DHT derivative, though those can be problematic for hair and skin unless you're going through puberty, in which case a low-dose Test/high-dose non-aromatizing steroid stack works good for gains

Good take, but the pros do outweigh the cons heavily

 

[lmnopq]

Should save up money then get everything you need

 

[danielmaxxing]

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run hgh, anastrozole, boron, TMG, NMN, and take riboflavin