Which stack would be better for height+dimorphism+muscle growth

[thramer.]

WHICH STACK SHOULD I RUN FOR HEIGHT+DIMO+MUSCLE (BULKING)?

STACK NUMBER 1
8 IU GH+2.5 mg letrozole throughout
First 8 weeks:
120 mg testosterone propionate split ED
490 mg tren E/A split (70 mg ED)
Later:
120 mg testosterone propionate split ED
Masteron

VS

STACK NUMBER 2

8 IU GH+2.5 mg letrozole throughout

First 4 weeks:
300 mg testosterone propionate split ED
Months 2-3:
500 mg testosterone propionate split ED
Later:
500 mg test
Masteron

 

[dimaPsl]

I´d say number 2

 

[thramer.]

I´d say number 2

why do you think so

 

[Peco]

Organ failure speedrun any %

 

[exyonf]

WHICH STACK SHOULD I RUN FOR HEIGHT+DIMO+MUSCLE (BULKING)?

STACK NUMBER 1
8 IU GH+2.5 mg letrozole throughout
First 8 weeks:
120 mg testosterone propionate split ED
490 mg tren E/A split (70 mg ED)
Later:
120 mg testosterone propionate split ED
Masteron

VS

STACK NUMBER 2

8 IU GH+2.5 mg letrozole throughout

First 4 weeks:
300 mg testosterone propionate split ED
Months 2-3:
500 mg testosterone propionate split ED
Later:
500 mg test
Masteron

Considering you want height, I wouldn't go over 125mg of test. Which ancillaries are you taking?

 

[thramer.]

Considering you want height, I wouldn't go over 125mg of test. Which ancillaries are you taking?

alot if i take tren which i pobably wont but for test maybe just 2-3 like AI, ezetimibe,e.t.c. but why do you think going over 125 test is a bad idea if i will use an AI anyway

 

[thramer.]

Organ failure speedrun any %

test is safe brah

 

[exyonf]

alot if i take tren which i pobably wont but for test maybe just 2-3 like AI, ezetimibe,e.t.c. but why do you think going over 125 test is a bad idea if i will use an AI anyway

AI surpresses most of the serum e2 but not as much as local e2. The higher the test the more local substrates you have = more local e2, even while on AI. So keeping test in normal levels is ideal, instead of going overboard. Local e2 matter more in the epiphyseal plate fusion.

 

[thramer.]

AI surpresses most of the serum e2 but not as much as local e2. The higher the test the more local substrates you have = more local e2, even while on AI. So keeping test in normal levels is ideal, instead of going overboard. Local e2 matter more in the epiphyseal plate fusion.

ik everybody says that but if letrozole can cross the blood brain barrier than why do yall think it cant penetrate the growth plate

 

[exyonf]

ik everybody says that but if letrozole can cross the blood brain barrier than why do yall think it cant penetrate the growth plate

Letrozole penetrates the growth plates very well, I never said it didnt. Letrozole is actually one of the best picks. But still keeping test in normal levels is ideal for getting maximum height potential.

 

[thramer.]

Letrozole penetrates the growth plates very well, I never said it didnt. Letrozole is actually one of the best picks. But still keeping test in normal levels is ideal for getting maximum height potential.

thank you so much for your clarification and advice, does that mean that the growth plates are safe even if i take loads of test if i full dose letrozole daily and e2 is undetectable

 

[exyonf]

thank you so much for your clarification and advice, does that mean that the growth plates are safe even if i take loads of test if i full dose letrozole daily and e2 is undetectable

Plates are not safe, even if you take letro. It will delay them alot more, but if you want to get the maximum height potential (like I said), I'd rather run an actual TRT dose. Not these TRT+ or sum tiktok bullshit like that.

 

[exyonf]

thank you so much for your clarification and advice, does that mean that the growth plates are safe even if i take loads of test if i full dose letrozole daily and e2 is undetectable

working on a mega guide, about exgenous rhGH paired with gh secretagogues and AI. If you're interested I could tag you in there

 

[thramer.]

working on a mega guide, about exgenous rhGH paired with gh secretagogues and AI. If you're interested I could tag you in there

sure it would be very nice to read i'm especially interested in the collrelation dosing for the hgh with igf1 levels and height growth

 

[thramer.]

Plates are not safe, even if you take letro. It will delay them alot more, but if you want to get the maximum height potential (like I said), I'd rather run an actual TRT dose. Not these TRT+ or sum tiktok bullshit like that.

why do you think they arent safe direct androgen receptor activation or local aromatisation?

 

[exyonf]

why do you think they arent safe direct androgen receptor activation or local aromatisation?

local aromatisation

 

[darodiddler]

what abt

Letrozole penetrates the growth plates very well, I never said it didnt. Letrozole is actually one of the best picks. But still keeping test in normal levels is ideal for getting maximum height potential.

arimdix? im plannin on 200 weekly with 0.25 arimdix eod