Which surgeons are the best at orthognatic surgery and which are the best at implants?

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Which surgeons are generally agreed upon to be the best at orthognatic surgery and implants AND have good aesthetic eyes? I know that names like coeancig and eppley are thrown around here, but many users agree that they aren't great at implants and orthognatics respectively and have poor eyes for aesthetic subtlety.
 
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Idk Dr Amdreischev I guess
 
Nobody atm. There's like a dozen surgeons in the world who advertise jaw surgery for cosmetics and maybe a couple more for jaw implants. Men's aesthetics is still in its very early stages.

The best atm seem to be Alfaro for orthognathic and Dr. Yaremchuk for jaw implants judging strictly off of results. Both of them have bad results as well.
 
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This site sucks for hardmaxxing advice tbh
 
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