Which surgeries for for undereye area?

[ideka]

I thought about getting fat graft for the undereye, but now Im not sure, if its just fat or bad infras. If I also have recessed infras, please tell me if fat graft would be enough or what surgery would benefit me more (brutal overbite btw)

 

[zaebalsya]

I would go for just fat graft in ur case

 

[blahblahblahblahbla]

Your infras are recessed. I would get implant and fat grafts if i were you tbh

 

[normie tiktoker]

Treat the real problem not the symptom. The real problem is lack of maxillary bone expansion so get MARPE/MSE then get double jaw surgery if needed, then get fat grafts and fillers.

If not you’ll regret it. MSE is like $10k in Midwest and can be covered if you get sleep apnea diagnosed or some shit

 

[ideka]

Treat the real problem not the symptom. The real problem is lack of maxillary bone expansion so get MARPE/MSE then get double jaw surgery if needed, then get fat grafts and fillers.

If not you’ll regret it. MSE is like $10k in Midwest and can be covered if you get sleep apnea diagnosed or some shit

with expansion you mean forward or width?

 

[itssooverropecope]

I thought about getting fat graft for the undereye, but now Im not sure, if its just fat or bad infras. If I also have recessed infras, please tell me if fat graft would be enough or what surgery would benefit me more (brutal overbite btw)

ur chins also recessed

 

[Lefor3Laser]

I wouldn't agree on what's prescribed above about infraorbital implant, you are lacking in a little bit of fat in the region, ROI (return of investment) would be pretty bad if you do get infra implant , plus that it will look bad in comparasion to your paranasal area.

 

[ideka]

I wouldn't agree on what's prescribed above about infraorbital implant, you are lacking in a little bit of fat in the region, ROI (return of investment) would be pretty bad if you do get infra implant , plus that it will look bad in comparasion to your paranasal area.

I dont think my maxilla is recessed. it may be too narrow though. by the way, i dont think ill get some bone surgery, implants or something like that, especially not infra implants, cause I saw some bad results.

 

[ideka]

I wouldn't agree on what's prescribed above about infraorbital implant, you are lacking in a little bit of fat in the region, ROI (return of investment) would be pretty bad if you do get infra implant , plus that it will look bad in comparasion to your paranasal area.

by the way what do you mean with ROI?

 

[Iraniancel]

by the way what do you mean with ROI?

return of investment

I dont think my maxilla is recessed. it may be too narrow though. by the way, i dont think ill get some bone surgery, implants or something like that, especially not infra implants, cause I saw some bad results.

Almost everyone has a slightly recessed maxilla, you too. For some its worse for some a little better

 

[ideka]

return of investment

Almost everyone has a slightly recessed maxilla, you too. For some its worse for some a little better

yes, but what is return of investment?

 

[tweaqo]

yes, but what is return of investment?

He means that infras are higher risk, and more expensive and won’t ascend you too much.

And that fat grafts are safer, cheaper, and may give you a similar result to implants

 

[Lefor3Laser]

yes, but what is return of investment?

Basically how good you benefit from a surgery or not, but not surgery in general, for everything.

I dont think my maxilla is recessed. it may be too narrow though. by the way, i dont think ill get some bone surgery, implants or something like that, especially not infra implants, cause I saw some bad results.

Narrow maxilla is basically less ot equal than 6 theeths shown, but it also depends on alot of factors.

 

[ideka]

Treat the real problem not the symptom. The real problem is lack of maxillary bone expansion so get MARPE/MSE then get double jaw surgery if needed, then get fat grafts and fillers.

If not you’ll regret it. MSE is like $10k in Midwest and can be covered if you get sleep apnea diagnosed or some shit

Thank you for this, even though its been a while, would you recommend MSE or MARPE more, MSE looks very good for me, especially because I have a wide lower third, so I wont get the balloon face, but is MARPE/MSE really enough? If im not mistaking, it doesnt give forward maxillary growth.

 

[ideka]

Treat the real problem not the symptom. The real problem is lack of maxillary bone expansion so get MARPE/MSE then get double jaw surgery if needed, then get fat grafts and fillers.

If not you’ll regret it. MSE is like $10k in Midwest and can be covered if you get sleep apnea diagnosed or some shit

Nevermind, MSE might actually ascend me. That could be insane thank you for telling me to get it

 

[aac21]

MSE will NOT ascend you alone, especially for you buddy in this case

from what i can see your mandible is recessed from failing all lip and nasal assessments your chin also follows

although you lack foward growth as you just said MSE does not cause forward maxillary growth, it simply widens your maxlla from the frontal plane, which is why people credit it for literally giving you cheekbones.

if you start MSE your upper jaw will be too wide from the front and your profile will be horrible from the side, causing the balloon face

i highly recommend double jaw surgery since you look too old for orthodontic appliances that focus on advancing the mandible

 

[ideka]

MSE will NOT ascend you alone, especially for you buddy in this case

from what i can see your mandible is recessed from failing all lip and nasal assessments your chin also follows

although you lack foward growth as you just said MSE does not cause forward maxillary growth, it simply widens your maxlla from the frontal plane, which is why people credit it for literally giving you cheekbones.

if you start MSE your upper jaw will be too wide from the front and your profile will be horrible from the side, causing the balloon face

i highly recommend double jaw surgery since you look too old for orthodontic appliances that focus on advancing the mandible

Thanks for the help, but what do you mean with lip and nasal assessments?

 

[aac21]

assessments done on side profile to actually see if your are recessed or not

 

[superpsycho]

Your infras are recessed

 

[Dot1]

I thought about getting fat graft for the undereye, but now Im not sure, if its just fat or bad infras. If I also have recessed infras, please tell me if fat graft would be enough or what surgery would benefit me more (brutal overbite btw)

that side profile is lowkey brutal icl

 

[ideka]

that side profile is lowkey brutal icl

What can I do to fix it?

 

[Dot1]

What can I do to fix it?

How old are you?

 

[ideka]

How old are you?

17 almost 18

 

[Dot1]

17 almost 18

Development is almost done by the time you reach 18, the only thing I can really recommend is just increasing ur testosterone since it does help with bone development a bit. It wont instantly give u a god tier jaw or fix ur maxilla but it should help a bit.

 

[Dot1]

Development is almost done by the time you reach 18, the only thing I can really recommend is just increasing ur testosterone since it does help with bone development a bit. It wont instantly give u a god tier jaw or fix ur maxilla but it should help a bit.

Ur front is somewhat decent, even if ur side profile is bad there's still hope since theres multiple ppl with bad side profiles but a good face to cover up for it. Fix your front profile and you should be somewhat decent.

 

[ideka]

Development is almost done by the time you reach 18, the only thing I can really recommend is just increasing ur testosterone since it does help with bone development a bit. It wont instantly give u a god tier jaw or fix ur maxilla but it should help a bit.

My jaw is my best area, im maxing test already, but I asked chatgpt and mandible and stuff is done by like 15

 

[ideka]

Ur front is somewhat decent, even if ur side profile is bad there's still hope since theres multiple ppl with bad side profiles but a good face to cover up for it. Fix your front profile and you should be somewhat decent.

Always thought side is good but thank you for telling me and thanks for the hopefuel

 

[Dot1]

Always thought side is good but thank you for telling me and thanks for the hopefuel

Yeah remember, brian doesnt have a good side nowadays. Tbh no one cares about the side profile, I have a good jaw and the only compliment I get about it is being "sigma" I just want to grab their necks and choke them to death right there

 

[ideka]

Yeah remember, brian doesnt have a good side nowadays. Tbh no one cares about the side profile, I have a good jaw and the only compliment I get about it is being "sigma" I just want to grab their necks and choke them to death right there

I guess I subconsciously coped, by frauding in front of the mirror and thinking I look like that irl. I dont even know how, because everything on me is recessed but I'm not completely chopped at least where I live, so I guess its not over. Really appreciate you helping me though

 

[ideka]

Ja, denk dran, Brian hat heutzutage keine gute Seite mehr. Ehrlich gesagt interessiert sich niemand für das Profil, ich habe ein gutes Kinn und das einzige Kompliment, das ich dafür bekomme, ist, dass ich „Sigma“ bin. Ich möchte ihnen am liebsten den Hals packen und sie dort erwürgen.

Btw would mse and double jaw surgery at least fix my dark circles, or do I need fat graft too?
Also is double jaw surgery the official name of the surgery?

 

[aac21]

its called bimax and it would ascend you heavily in this case if ur getting bimax no point in MSE

 

[ideka]

its called bimax and it would ascend you heavily in this case if ur getting bimax no point in MSE

Thanks ill look into that, but my nose „holes“ and palate are too narrow, so I think I might actually need marpe for health reasons. I always wonder, how I get attention irl, when I look at these photos. Since joining here, I only see flaws and im not even tunnel visioned on the „few“ ones. I have subhuman colouring, undereyes, dimo, orbitals, cheekbones, maxilla and now even my jaw, which is the one thing I thought was good. I deadass got compliments and thought I wasnt bad looking, but its insane how frauding and being narcissistic has tricked my brain. Think it was the jester in me all along, that got me attention.

 

[ideka]

its called bimax and it would ascend you heavily in this case if ur getting bimax no point in MSE

Btw whats about my cheekbones and eye area then, they are still chopped after bimax ig. And you dont have to read that paragraph above, sorry just had to dump. Upgrade though now my best feature is my fucking forehead or masseter

 

[tweaqo]

my nose „holes“

They’re called nostrils sir

 

[ideka]

They’re called nostrils sir

Yeah I forgot the word, thank you