Which surgery do i need to get ?

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Which surgery do I need?
 

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your mouth wouldnt even fit my tiny dick
 
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Which surgery do I need?
This photo might not be reliable (shot too close to your face), so take the following comments with a grain of salt.

Your main flaws are :

- narrow mouth
- long philtrum
- short and narrow chin
- high gonions (in relation to the mouth)
- low palpebral fissure length

It affects your facial harmony by messing with your jaw frontal angle (~76° VS 90-95° ideal range), chin to philtrum ratio (1.84 VS 2.0-2.5 ideal range), and mouth to nose width ratio (1.17 VS 1.4-1.6 ideal range).

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Mouth width can't be addressed satisfactorily with surgery or any other method. You can harmonize it with nose width by reducing the alar base width (rhinoplasty - alar plasty), although your current nose width is not bad by itself (quite well aligned with inter-medial canthus width).
Philtrum can be reduced with a lip lift. Which could also augment your upper lip height.
Chin width & height can be correct with a genioplasty.
Gonial placement can be altered with jaw angle implants.
PFL ... as far as I know, you can't do much about it. Canthoplasty may add some length, but risk to reward ratio may not be good in your particular case.

Your neck also lacks a bit of width for your current jaw width (~0.85 VS 0.9-1.0 ideal range). This would be accentuated if you added jaw width with implants. You can correct it with consistent neck exercise.


Morph illustrating roughly the effect of various procedures (lip lift, genioplasty, jaw angle implants, rhinoplasty) and neck exercise :

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This photo might not be reliable (shot too close to your face), so take the following comments with a grain of salt.

Your main flaws are :

- narrow mouth
- long philtrum
- short and narrow chin
- high gonions (in relation to the mouth)
- low palpebral fissure length

It affects your facial harmony by messing with your jaw frontal angle (~76° VS 90-95° ideal range), chin to philtrum ratio (1.84 VS 2.0-2.5 ideal range), and mouth to nose width ratio (1.17 VS 1.4-1.6 ideal range).

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Mouth width can't be addressed satisfactorily with surgery or any other method. You can harmonize it with nose width by reducing the alar base width (rhinoplasty - alar plasty), although your current nose width is not bad by itself (quite well aligned with inter-medial canthus width).
Philtrum can be reduced with a lip lift. Which could also augment your upper lip height.
Chin width & height can be correct with a genioplasty.
Gonial placement can be altered with jaw angle implants.
PFL ... as far as I know, you can't do much about it. Canthoplasty may add some length, but risk to reward ratio may not be good in your particular case.

Your neck also lacks a bit of width for your current jaw width (~0.85 VS 0.9-1.0 ideal range). This would be accentuated if you added jaw width with implants. You can correct it with consistent neck exercise.


Morph illustrating roughly the effect of various procedures (lip lift, genioplasty, jaw angle implants, rhinoplasty) and neck exercise :

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(don't forget to rep this post if it's been helpful to you)
you are a genius man
 
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Puberty mostly tbfh.

Your neck will get wider, from increase muscle mass even if you do nothing.
Your lower 3rd will enlarge and masculinize even if you do nothing.

Although I don't disagree with any of the above changes. Reality is cometic surgery will do little for you.


Rhino could get some refinement on the tip, but most surgeons suck at rhino so they might fuck it up worse then it is. If you do it find a good one.
Bullhorn lip lift, but your Philtrum not horrendous either, its just not good. At least most surgeons can do these well.
Lateral commissuroplasty, might help widen the mouth but very few surgeons have any experience doing that, and typically its done for down turn corners more then just widening. You'd be better off to try the lip widening guide in BOTB thread.

Other then the bullhorn, there's real risk the surgeons post op results will be worse then what you already have. So its imperative if you do anything, you make sure your going to a highly specialized and highly skilled surgeon for the procedure.

Oh you do have dark purple undereyes. Probably should use a vascular laser on those.
 
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you are a genius man
I wish ! :ROFLMAO:
But no, these are just very basic notions of facial harmony. Anyone who's watched a few raters' videos is aware of those ratios & angles.
It doesn't take long to train your eyes to spot facial flaws ; and you can then back it up with actual measurements done in Photoshop.
No genius involved, to my greatest dismay.



Other then the bullhorn, there's real risk the surgeons post op results will be worse then what you already have. So its imperative if you do anything, you make sure your going to a highly specialized and highly skilled surgeon for the procedure.
True !
@Matthew24 proceed cautiously. Make sure to understand what these surgeries can really achieve on your face, and don't cheap out when it's time to choose a surgeon.
 
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