Who and why do women friendzone?

[Zeruel]

I was reading some old threads about the friendzone and I’m just ruminating.

The Friendzone Myth

(REPOST from https://redpilltalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1007227) Most guys who get "friend-zoned" attribute their situation to a lack of confidence and social skills, yet many of these guys are actually more socially adept than either the PUA community or mainstream dating advice gives them...

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“Women will BEFRIEND a confident, socially adept man.
They might MARRY a wealthy man.
They will RESPECT a dominant man or a man with game.
They will DESIRE a good looking man.
They will DENY that sexual attraction is mainly looks.”

I am not confident or socially adept because i haven’t had the positive reinforcement to be, most of my school days were spent on an individual form (me and the teacher) of education from 4th grade to 12th grade and i became mature later in my life mentally and physically - when i was young i didn’t understand why i had to go to school, i just wanted to play video games all day and had no concept of what an adult life was, and i hit puberty at 15.

So i don’t understand why women would befriend someone like me, there’s gotta be more to it.

Maybe they see i’m always alone and feel like it’s their chance to spark something, but they don’t appear attracted to me or at least i think so.

Before you say “you’re Chad and you get everything handed to you”

I believe a very significant are just too afraid to approach an attractive guy no matter what.

brutal friendzone pill

@RoBobaFett999 actually ur right bro. these are some of the comments on this video just lol

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Now i would like to ask you guys for any personal anecdotes about the friendzone in general. Tell me your stories.

Can men and women be friends?

Can a guy who is in the friendzone with a girl who is in a relationship fuck and what does it take?

 

[Deleted member 23558]

I’m not attractive ( yet) but above avg for india. Women give obvious signals if they’re attracted to you: doe eyes , flirting with hair, standing next to you when a group of other people are there etc,

This is how doe eyes look btw first time a girl did this I was so flummoxed I just avoided eye contact and acted like I didn’t see it , it was too obvious( I liked her I was just low T at the time)

 

[Deleted member 21735]

friendzone? wahts that?

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Because they like u as a person but not attracted to u sexually

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Women friendzone ugly men.

 

[Deleted member 23017]

Ugly men. Because they are good for money and free shit.

 

[Pakicel]

Women friendzone ugly men.

They should blackpill them though. For their own sake.

 

[Zeruel]

Because they like u as a person but not attracted to u sexually

I think you summed it up well. Maybe there’s a little more to it but idk.

 

[Almost Chadlite]

they frindzone you so they have someone to marry after badboys don't want them anymore

 

[Zeruel]

they frindzone you so they have someone to marry after badboys don't want them anymore

This. This explains divorce rates.

 

[Deleted member 21182]

I think you summed it up well. Maybe there’s a little more to it but idk.

Woman like the male energy and company naturally but when ur normie she will not take u seriously as relationship materisl

 

[Zeruel]

I’m not attractive ( yet) but above avg for india. Women give obvious signals if they’re attracted to you: doe eyes , flirting with hair, standing next to you when a group of other people are there etc,

This is how doe eyes look btw first time a girl did this I was so flummoxed I just avoided eye contact and acted like I didn’t see it , it was too obvious( I liked her I was just low T at the time)

iois are a whole other thing and i feel like i don’t get any or don’t notice them. Fuck.

 

[Deleted member 20370]

what even is the friendzone? for me its either been sex/relationship or nothing

 

[Zeruel]

what even is the friendzone? for me its either been sex/relationship or nothing

Some girls just like having me around ( or so i believe ) but won’t do anything.

 

[Deleted member 20370]

Some girls just like having me around ( or so i believe ) but won’t do anything.

from dating apps or irl?

 

[BoneDensity]

Women friendzone losers because they're hardwired to breed with winners.

 

[Zeruel]

from dating apps or irl?

irl. I don’t use dating apps because i don’t want to lose my virginity to someone insignificant to me.

The girls I’m around are other students who seem to enjoy my company and I’ve known for a bit now, but nothing happens.

 

[Deleted member 20370]

irl. I don’t use dating apps because i don’t want to lose my virginity to someone insignificant to me.

The girls I’m around are other students who seem to enjoy my company and I’ve known for a bit now, but nothing happens.

oh thats pretty normal i guess

 

[Zeruel]

Women friendzone losers because they're hardwired to breed with winners.

Friendzone losers?

Why would any woman friendzone a loser in the first place instead of ignoring them?

Wouldn’t she fear that it could bring her down in the eyes of others?

 

[Deleted member 19442]

Water. Mods need to pin that old thread to BOTB. Social skills etc are cope for the most part.

 

[AngryShane]

The reason why women friendzone men they're not sexually attracted to is the fact that they still need men for other things besides sexual intercourse such as entertainment,emotional support,positive reinforcement,protection,heavy lifting,etc...Women are not meant be lone wolves by nature they still need man no matter what...

 

[ihatereddit]

Brutal women don't want me even as a friend

 

[BoneDensity]

Friendzone losers?

Why would any woman friendzone a loser in the first place instead of ignoring them?

Wouldn’t she fear that it could bring her down in the eyes of others?

Nope, women have many "friends"; hordes of thirsty losers. I even met sub 5 beckies with multiple beta orbiters, imagine what is going on if she's at least average.


They're not friendships like us men understand friendships though, more along the lines of acquaintances.

 

[Zeruel]

Water. Mods need to pin that old thread to BOTB. Social skills etc are cope for the most part.

Social skills are cope? Over.

Could you find and link the thread by any chance?

 

[Xangsane]

The reason why women friendzone men they're not sexually attracted to is the fact that they still need men for other things besides sexual intercourse such as entertainment,emotional support,positive reinforcement,protection,heavy lifting,etc...Women are not meant be lone wolves by nature they still need man no matter what...

Friendzoned, due to religion.

Christian Blasian girl I was seeing told me that we'd be good friends and that I'm "handsome", but she isn't "feeling it due to clashing religious beliefs". However, she asked me if she was happy to forward my details to her Muslim friend. Body count is still 1 (repenting).

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[Zeruel]

Friendzoned, due to religion.

Christian Blasian girl I was seeing told me that we'd be good friends and that I'm "handsome", but she isn't "feeling it due to clashing religious beliefs". However, she asked me if she was happy to forward my details to her Muslim friend. Body count is still 1 (repenting).

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Good anecdote.

Goes to show there are real bizarre outliers out there and variety.

Need to find someone like that.

 

[Enfant terrible]

I was reading some old threads about the friendzone and I’m just ruminating.

The Friendzone Myth

(REPOST from https://redpilltalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1007227) Most guys who get "friend-zoned" attribute their situation to a lack of confidence and social skills, yet many of these guys are actually more socially adept than either the PUA community or mainstream dating advice gives them...

looksmax.org

“Women will BEFRIEND a confident, socially adept man.
They might MARRY a wealthy man.
They will RESPECT a dominant man or a man with game.
They will DESIRE a good looking man.
They will DENY that sexual attraction is mainly looks.”

I am not confident or socially adept because i haven’t had the positive reinforcement to be, most of my school days were spent on an individual form (me and the teacher) of education from 4th grade to 12th grade and i became mature later in my life mentally and physically - when i was young i didn’t understand why i had to go to school, i just wanted to play video games all day and had no concept of what an adult life was, and i hit puberty at 15.

So i don’t understand why women would befriend someone like me, there’s gotta be more to it.

Maybe they see i’m always alone and feel like it’s their chance to spark something, but they don’t appear attracted to me or at least i think so.

Before you say “you’re Chad and you get everything handed to you”

I believe a very significant are just too afraid to approach an attractive guy no matter what.

brutal friendzone pill

@RoBobaFett999 actually ur right bro. these are some of the comments on this video just lol

looksmax.org

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Now i would like to ask you guys for any personal anecdotes about the friendzone in general. Tell me your stories.

Can men and women be friends?

Can a guy who is in the friendzone with a girl who is in a relationship fuck and what does it take?

Ok some anecdotes
I noticed that alot of girls have fat neckbeards friends as there closest male friends. Attractive guys can still be in the social group.
Some women are confident and some arent. So some will approach you if they find you attractive or make signs and some will not because they are rather shy. Users here like to talk in absolutes about behaviour, and I will not do that. Humans are individual.
There was some girl who had no problem talking with my ugliest friend( low tier normie bordering ugly) but was shy around me but was very smiley.

 

[Enfant terrible]

Social skills are cope? Over.

Could you find and link the thread by any chance?

the only social skill you need is being able to speak to strangers you never meet before
so being gig shy might be bad but besides that its kinda cope yeah

 

[Zeruel]

Ok some anecdotes
I noticed that alot of girls have fat neckbeards friends as there closest male friends. Attractive guys can still be in the social group.
Some women are confident and some arent. So some will approach you if they find you attractive or make signs and some will not because they are rather shy. Users here like to talk in absolutes about behaviour, and I will not do that. Humans are individual.
There was some girl who had no problem talking with my ugliest friend( low tier normie bordering ugly) but was shy around me but was very smiley.

I definitely need to see more users with nuanced views but it’s like their negative reinforcement from their life experiences prevents them from even attempting to see nuance in women.

Having a positive mental attitude despite being ugly seems to be a good thing for sure, some guys in my group are uglier than me, shorter (around 5’7” and 5’8”) and fatter than me and are also friendzoned but the women in our uni class always seem to love talking and interacting with them, sitting next to them and leaning towards them trying to listen in on the convo, while I’m not talking with them at least 75% of the time.

 

[Enfant terrible]

Having a positive mental attitude despite being ugly seems to be a good thing for sure, some guys in my group are uglier than me, shorter (around 5’7” and 5’8”) and fatter than me and are also friendzoned but the women in our uni class always seem to love talking and interacting with them, sitting next to them and leaning towards them trying to listen in on the convo, while I’m not talking with them at least 75% of the time.

Their suppliers of positive emotions of course.
Maybe you should come out of your shell. I don't know if that is your problem.

 

[Zeruel]

Their suppliers of positive emotions of course.
Maybe you should come out of your shell. I don't know if that is your problem.

I can assure you it’s not that, i just don’t have anything to add to those conversations because they don’t interest or concern me.

I definitely contribute to conversations a lot when it’s a few of us waiting outside the class room on the bench and the girls definitely pay attention to me but i don’t believe they’re attracted, our year is a sausage fest.

There’s only 4 girls left, 2 are taken, 1 is M.I.A and the last one is the head student and her situation mindfucks me and i can’t understand if she’s into me, she messaged me this morning out of the blue and wished me a Merry Christmas and we send each other heart reactions to our messages but girls do that when they have boyfriends so it probably means nothing (idk).

 

[Enfant terrible]

I can assure you it’s not that, i just don’t have anything to add to those conversations because they don’t interest or concern me.

I definitely contribute to conversations a lot when it’s a few of us waiting outside the class room on the bench and the girls definitely pay attention to me but i don’t believe they’re attracted, our year is a sausage fest.

There’s only 4 girls left, 2 are taken, 1 is M.I.A and the last one is the head student and her situation mindfucks me and i can’t understand if she’s into me, she messaged me this morning out of the blue and wished me a Merry Christmas and we send each other heart reactions to our messages but girls do that when they have boyfriends so it probably means nothing (idk).

These boring small talk topics alot of girls talk about also don't interest me that much. Don't force yourself.

She is probably not attracted to you don't interpret anything into these small gestures.

Or just ask her out if you really want to know.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

I was reading some old threads about the friendzone and I’m just ruminating.

The Friendzone Myth

(REPOST from https://redpilltalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1007227) Most guys who get "friend-zoned" attribute their situation to a lack of confidence and social skills, yet many of these guys are actually more socially adept than either the PUA community or mainstream dating advice gives them...

looksmax.org

“Women will BEFRIEND a confident, socially adept man.
They might MARRY a wealthy man.
They will RESPECT a dominant man or a man with game.
They will DESIRE a good looking man.
They will DENY that sexual attraction is mainly looks.”

I am not confident or socially adept because i haven’t had the positive reinforcement to be, most of my school days were spent on an individual form (me and the teacher) of education from 4th grade to 12th grade and i became mature later in my life mentally and physically - when i was young i didn’t understand why i had to go to school, i just wanted to play video games all day and had no concept of what an adult life was, and i hit puberty at 15.

So i don’t understand why women would befriend someone like me, there’s gotta be more to it.

Maybe they see i’m always alone and feel like it’s their chance to spark something, but they don’t appear attracted to me or at least i think so.

Before you say “you’re Chad and you get everything handed to you”

I believe a very significant are just too afraid to approach an attractive guy no matter what.

brutal friendzone pill

@RoBobaFett999 actually ur right bro. these are some of the comments on this video just lol

looksmax.org

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Now i would like to ask you guys for any personal anecdotes about the friendzone in general. Tell me your stories.

Can men and women be friends?

Can a guy who is in the friendzone with a girl who is in a relationship fuck and what does it take?

Women use men they don't like for attention. Every interaction with a subhuman male is a brief distraction from chad. It's relief for women. A chance for the amount of bandwidth chad occupies to be temporarily relieved. To be friendzoned, you can't be ugly to the point of repulsion like me. You have to be normal and clean-looking + high in agreeableness and socially well-adjusted. It's almost therapeutic for the foid. Knowing they can string normies along + get attention while they wait for a chad to ravage them.

 

[Alexanderr]

Sometimes the "friendzone" isn't even the friendzone but rather "I don't wanna straight up reject this guy so I'll leave him in a vague position"