Who are girls more likely to pick: an ugly alpha male or a handsome beta male?

[swaggyp1]

Ugly alpha male

-5'8", below-average looks
-don juan tier social skills and can smooth talk anybody
-top tier game, escalation, and seduction
-ambitious go-getter
-does difficult things and dedicates his life to getting better and continuously improving

Handsome beta male

-handsome as fuck, 6'1"
-is a people pleaser and extremely nice to everyone, even if they don't deserve it
-is a major pushover, hard time saying no
-has a regular personality, occasionally socially awkward
-complacent with working a regular middle class job
-has beta hobbies like playing video games

 

[Deleted member 26824]

alpha male cannot look like an geek

 

[swaggyp1]

alpha male cannot look like an geek

most alpha males are geeks

andrew tate, asian masculinity self improvement guys, etc.

 

[Mogger2000]

Ugly alpha male

-5'8", below-average looks
-don juan tier social skills and can smooth talk anybody
-top tier game, escalation, and seduction
-ambitious go-getter
-does difficult things and dedicates his life to getting better and continuously improving

Handsome beta male

-handsome as fuck, 6'1"
-is a people pleaser and extremely nice to everyone, even if they don't deserve it
-is a major pushover, hard time saying no
-has a regular personality, occasionally socially awkward
-complacent with working a regular middle class job
-has beta hobbies like playing video games

first one might appeal to academics, extremely feminine/innocent asian women or low psl reddit women

second one will appeal to non-feminine foids that go to bars/clubs

 

[Gonthar]

Ugly alpha male

-5'8", below-average looks
-don juan tier social skills and can smooth talk anybody
-top tier game, escalation, and seduction
-ambitious go-getter
-does difficult things and dedicates his life to getting better and continuously improving

Lol, that's a gook, no game for his face, most girls won't even want to listen to what he has to say...

 

[Deleted member 31169]

you should know the answer.

 

[Deleted member 25705]

Ugly alpha male

-5'8", below-average looks
-don juan tier social skills and can smooth talk anybody
-top tier game, escalation, and seduction
-ambitious go-getter
-does difficult things and dedicates his life to getting better and continuously improving

Handsome beta male

-handsome as fuck, 6'1"
-is a people pleaser and extremely nice to everyone, even if they don't deserve it
-is a major pushover, hard time saying no
-has a regular personality, occasionally socially awkward
-complacent with working a regular middle class job
-has beta hobbies like playing video games

It depends.

But I'm gonna go with the first one just for the sake of voting.

The top guy will do better with the status obsessed superficial thots with zero emotional intelligence. These types of women despise it when men display any signs of weakness. They are the ones who fall for dumbasses with a fake "alpha" personality like Tate. My mother is very similar to this type of woman.

Looks will not brute force it with them.

The second guy will do much better with slightly dominant leaning women (my type tbh) who are extremely emotionally intelligent and empathic. These types of women actually hate the first type and would prefer a more sweeter man.

 

[Deleted member 21735]

its 2023 and people stll makes thread like this

 

[whiteissuperior]

2nd guy will be happy in a small town with a mtb and have much more short term success, but likely can’t keep a higher tier women

First guy can attract high tier gold diggers once he gets rich but it’ll be purely betabux

 

[Deleted member 4362]

I thought Alpha male supposed to refer to the male that is top of sexual hierarchy

 

[Willmogulater]

u mean masculine

Vs pretry boy

Masculine would be preferred for marriage and prettyboy for like boyfriend material i guess

 

[Deleted member 30863]

Requirements to be “alpha” by the way it was originally defined is to at the very least be physically imposing. Not some fat fucking tub of grease like the guy you showed.

 

[swaggyp1]

its 2023 and people stll makes thread like this

This question is like “which came first, the chicken or the egg”

It’ll be discussed until the end of time

 

[swaggyp1]

u mean masculine
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Masculine would be preferred for marriage and prettyboy for like boyfriend material i guess

No I mean mentally alpha, like a redpill self improvement guy

Not physically alpha

 

[MentalistKebab]

first one might appeal to academics, extremely feminine/innocent asian women or low psl reddit women

second one will appeal to non-feminine foids that go to bars/clubs

Your brain rots in psl.

Most club going females are more feminine than nerdy asians.

They have bigger boobs, bigger thighs and ass, and slimmer waists.

 

[Deleted member 31024]

Have you learnt nothing?

 

[Deleted member 19567]

Ugly alpha male

-5'8", below-average looks
-don juan tier social skills and can smooth talk anybody
-top tier game, escalation, and seduction
-ambitious go-getter
-does difficult things and dedicates his life to getting better and continuously improving

Handsome beta male

-handsome as fuck, 6'1"
-is a people pleaser and extremely nice to everyone, even if they don't deserve it
-is a major pushover, hard time saying no
-has a regular personality, occasionally socially awkward
-complacent with working a regular middle class job
-has beta hobbies like playing video games

This question is messed up because what you say is beta or alpha is not always considered beta or alpha to others. For example, irl the handome beta male would actually be considered alpha depending on how gl the looks are due to the nature of preselection working. Also, video games are not beta as even “alphas” play them. And sometimes “focusing on yourself” could be seen as extremely non nt incel tier depending on what those behaviors are socially classified as (even if they factually are considered masculine or “alpha”)


But to answer the question. Generally When it comes to women, alpha and beta are archetypes not just traits.

The alpha on one hand could be considered beta bux to women due to his looks, no matter how hard he fits the traits of “alpha”.

This is the tricky part.

Even though the words “alpha” and “beta” are used to typically describe masculine and non masculine traits for men, generally, when it comes to what women (and generally others) see, If you dont fit the bill and requirements for those archetypes, then you are not. For women, this often also means looks and external stimulus that implies “alpha” (this Self awareness and how others are seeing you, relative to who you really are, is why many alpha traited men realize its best to go mgtow and to remove external stimulus/archetypes of masculinity from themselves, focusing to cultivate themselves for reaching unbiased net gains without distraction).

For example, a “gigachad” males awkward and super nice extroverted friendly personality would irl probably be considered alpha and main character to a women due to the charm of asthetic and/or preselection.

And a super “subhuman”s alphaness and whatnot could be seen as beta and loser, no matter how masculine inside he really is.