Who decides Stock market prices?

[Jesus_ist_König]

Ik that buyers and sellers and demand change the stock price but how? Obviously it’s automatic but for example if a person sell his stock then who decides by how much money the stock drops?

my point is couldn’t 2 stocks with the same net worth have different stock prices cuz one owner set the stock at a higher price?
I just dont understand it

 

[SaiNaz]

Ik that buyers and sellers and demand change the stock price but how? Obviously it’s automatic but for example if a person sell his stock then who decides by how much money the stock drops?

my point is couldn’t 2 stocks with the same net worth have different stock prices cuz one owner set the stock at a higher price?
I just dont understand it

the jews

 

[aids]

Market cap / Total shares

 

[dragomog]

the lizards

 

[Jesus_ist_König]

Market cap / Total shares

Okay but who decides the worth of a share?

Person right?

 

[ilovearcherqueen]

So in the stock market it isn't controlled by one person/ institution.

It is controlled by investors (normal people), institutions and banks, and brokers/market makers.

The stock market works by a bid/ask system. Buyers place “bids” (the highest price they’re willing to pay), and sellers place “asks” (the lowest price they’re willing to accept), the market matches these orders, and the latest matched trade becomes the quoted price.

So it is a mix of computer systems constantly matching and updating prices by getting fed information from investors/bankers/brokers.
Brokers are involved in this as they have to make the market more "liquid" so people can turn their shares into money.

Institutions and banks have a VERY big impact on the stock market because they have a SHIT ton of money. So much that they literally move the stock market up and down since they buy and sell in money you cannot imagine (100's of millions). Since they do this the market tends to either pump or dump. This is how they make their money. So when you trade in the stock market. You have to tend to GO with the flow of banks and institutions and follow their trends otherwise you will be turned into liquidity and money for them.

 

[Jesus_ist_König]

So in the stock market it isn't controlled by one person/ institution.

It is controlled by investors (normal people), institutions and banks, and brokers/market makers.

The stock market works by a bid/ask system. Buyers place “bids” (the highest price they’re willing to pay), and sellers place “asks” (the lowest price they’re willing to accept), the market matches these orders, and the latest matched trade becomes the quoted price.

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A share price starts with an initial public offering (IPO). The price is agreed between the company and investment bankers and the final number is based on valuation and perceived demand for a company's stock.

Once the IPO is complete, the company's share price fluctuates when buyers and sellers exchange money for share ownership.

The price will rise when there are more buyers (demand) than sellers (supply). By contrast, the price will fall when there are more sellers than buyers“

When someone sells the price goes down cuz then there is less ppl fighting for a share and that’s why the demand is less right?

So it is a mix of computer systems constantly matching and updating prices by getting fed information from investors/bankers/brokers.
Brokers are involved in this as they have to make the market more "liquid" so people can turn their shares into money.

Institutions and banks have a VERY big impact on the stock market because they have a SHIT ton of money. So much that they literally move the stock market up and down since they buy and sell in money you cannot imagine (100's of millions). Since they do this the market tends to either pump or dump. This is how they make their money. So when you trade in the stock market. You have to tend to GO with the flow of banks and institutions and follow their trends otherwise you will be turned into liquidity and money for them.

 

[ilovearcherqueen]

When someone sells the price goes down cuz then there is less ppl fighting for a share and that’s why the demand is less right?

Yes, it is somewhat like that.

When the price of a share goes down, this is because there are more sellers than buyers.

Easier way to think about is:

Demand= how many people want to buy
Supply= how many people want to sell


If there is a greater proportion of sellers than buyers the price falls until the buyers step in.

Lastly: a single person selling does not always push the price down. If there are plenty of buyers at the current price, the trade can happen without much price change. THhe drop happens when the sell order is big enough relative to the available buyers at that price.

it’s more shares being offered for sale than buyers are willing to take at the current price

 

[Jesus_ist_König]

Yes, it is somewhat like that.

When the price of a share goes down, this is because there are more sellers than buyers.

Easier way to think about is:

Demand= how many people want to buy
Supply= how many people want to sell


If there is a greater proportion of sellers than buyers the price falls until the buyers step in.

Lastly: a single person selling does not always push the price down. If there are plenty of buyers at the current price, the trade can happen without much price change. THhe drop happens when the sell order is big enough relative to the available buyers at that price.

it’s more shares being offered for sale than buyers are willing to take at the current price

And how did they make it that it’s automatic.

Like okay if a lot of ppl sell then the price goes down but who controls by how much it goes down?

 

[ilovearcherqueen]

And how did they make it that it’s automatic.

Like okay if a lot of ppl sell then the price goes down but who controls by how much it goes down?

It is all relative, they use computers to calculate all of this. Those computers use some type of formula and different data sets to calculate those prices. It also depends on how much the share is worth, and the market cap. If the market cap is high and a guy who owns lots of shares all of a sudden sells. them off, the price will not go as down as a low market cap. It's all relative to the amount. Computers do this

 

[cemkii]

And how did they make it that it’s automatic.

Like okay if a lot of ppl sell then the price goes down but who controls by how much it goes down?

most of it is machines nowadays nobody uses sheets although through private orders not via public shares if you saw the other day tim cook bought nike shares he managed to get at a better price due to sheets not straight up buying stock like how we do it

 

[emir5306]

You can make a shit ton of money if you know but the politicians know it and do insider trading, forgot the the name but she’s like 90 years old or some shit and made like 450% profit from inside trading just shows how fucking corrupt our government is

 

[ilovearcherqueen]

You can make a shit ton of money if you know but the politicians know it and do insider trading, forgot the the name but she’s like 90 years old or some shit and made like 450% profit from inside trading just shows how fucking corrupt our government is

I just seen a video on uncovering the US congress members and how they basically have insider info. They did studies where they tracked a couple of members portfolios before joining congress and after. They were losing money or their portfolio was average and then right after it shot up to 50 percent return. These people put millions in Nancy Pelosi put herself 40 million usd approx. a 50 percent return a year is 20 million. So she makes 20 million a year doing absolutely fuck all.

Video i just watched.

And if you want to copy trade nancy pelosi (us senate), you can take a look at this website Pelosi Tracker and you can make/use a pre-made pie chart which automatically updates based of her trades on broker sites like trading212 or etoro for free. BUt you need a good amount of capital to actually make some good yearly returns

 

[Jesus_ist_König]

I just seen a video on uncovering the US congress members and how they basically have insider info. They did studies where they tracked a couple of members portfolios before joining congress and after. They were losing money or their portfolio was average and then right after it shot up to 50 percent return. These people put millions in Nancy Pelosi put herself 40 million usd approx. a 50 percent return a year is 20 million. So she makes 20 million a year doing absolutely fuck all.

Video i just watched.

And if you want to copy trade nancy pelosi (us senate), you can take a look at this website Pelosi Tracker and you can make/use a pre-made pie chart which automatically updates based of her trades on broker sites like trading212 or etoro for free. BUt you need a good amount of capital to actually make some good yearly returns

wtf mirin hard. So i didnt quite understand, when she invests in stuff then the market goes up a lot and i should invest where she invests?

 

[ilovearcherqueen]

wtf mirin hard. So i didnt quite understand, when she invests in stuff then the market goes up a lot and i should invest where she invests?

Well you could take that approach. But this is mainly for long term. Not optimal for quick money. I looked a bit more into this. Apparently she is retiring by Januare 2027 so her portfolio will not be as strong anymore. There are a couple other portfolios from the US congress, i can PM you if i find anything interesting but when you copytrade its different. Under the stocks act in 2010's or something. US congress members have to announce any stock investment they make within 45 days. If they dont do that they will get a tiny fine of 200 usd (and they say the gov is not corrupted- they never persecuted member who broke this law).

So back to the 45 day thing. they usually file the announcement like on the 44th day, and by that time LOTS of things can happen. So her information is not publically available as soon as she invests which is the sad part. But it is a still a good way to make money in the long term because they know what is happening. Along with that she has abilities to invest into things that many brokers don't offer.

So realistically you are making 20 percent over the full year, it may not sound a lot but if you pour in money and let it sit for a whole year, it will beat inflation and make you money. you put in 10k in. You make 2k by the end of the year.

 

[Jesus_ist_König]

Well you could take that approach. But this is mainly for long term. Not optimal for quick money. I looked a bit more into this. Apparently she is retiring by Januare 2027 so her portfolio will not be as strong anymore. There are a couple other portfolios from the US congress, i can PM you if i find anything interesting but when you copytrade its different. Under the stocks act in 2010's or something. US congress members have to announce any stock investment they make within 45 days. If they dont do that they will get a tiny fine of 200 usd (and they say the gov is not corrupted- they never persecuted member who broke this law).

So back to the 45 day thing. they usually file the announcement like on the 44th day, and by that time LOTS of things can happen. So her information is not publically available as soon as she invests which is the sad part. But it is a still a good way to make money in the long term because they know what is happening. Along with that she has abilities to invest into things that many brokers don't offer.

So realistically you are making 20 percent over the full year, it may not sound a lot but if you pour in money and let it sit for a whole year, it will beat inflation and make you money. you put in 10k in. You make 2k by the end of the year.

I just watched the video, its really good. Btw Paul Pelosi is a guy.
Yes there day traders lose in 3 years of average 99% of the time, money, and dont make profit in the long run, im only a fan of long term investing.

Currently holding vanguard ftse all word usd acc and nvidia and vanguard lifestrategy 80% (the app bought it for me automatically)

where did you find his website, aka his tracker?


oh i just noticed we are talkin about his wife nacy jfl

 

[ilovearcherqueen]

oh i just noticed we are talkin about his wife nacy jfl

Lol i was about to say

Yes there day traders lose in 3 years of average 99% of the time, money, and dont make profit in the long run, im only a fan of long term investing.

Yes thats the correct mindset.

where did you find his website, aka his tracker?

You can just search it up online. "pelosi tracker"

If you are interested in this you can also learn how to use this free tool which is kinda hard to navigate through but it can/will help. It is called openinsider. This is a website where you can see ALL types of "insider" filings as its required by the gov for an owner/ceo/cfo/director of a company who wants to invest in their own money which is usually millions, they have to file a form with the gov declaring this. It's really good to see if there is any insider info (not really insider). This can give you an edge because you can find out if anything significant is happening.

I struggle using that website since its so old and hard to navigate but i use AI to help me navigate through it XD.

If you are up for paying this subscription to another service called Quiver quant. Its extremely good to see more info about different things. If also takes data from the other website (openinsider) and shows more info about different companies and why a specific share went up and down using "insider" (not really insider) information. I would suggest using this website since you can track like a BUNCH of congress members and its wayyyy easier to navigate through. You can also take a look at different strategies and portfolio's of significant people:

the return in the image is starting is all time return.

Take a look at this website. There is a free version of it too.

If you want the open insider website (free but hard to use) : OpenInsider

 

[Jesus_ist_König]

Lol i was about to say


Yes thats the correct mindset.


You can just search it up online. "pelosi tracker"

If you are interested in this you can also learn how to use this free tool which is kinda hard to navigate through but it can/will help. It is called openinsider. This is a website where you can see ALL types of "insider" filings as its required by the gov for an owner/ceo/cfo/director of a company who wants to invest in their own money which is usually millions, they have to file a form with the gov declaring this. It's really good to see if there is any insider info (not really insider). This can give you an edge because you can find out if anything significant is happening.

I struggle using that website since its so old and hard to navigate but i use AI to help me navigate through it XD.

If you are up for paying this subscription to another service called Quiver quant. Its extremely good to see more info about different things. If also takes data from the other website (openinsider) and shows more info about different companies and why a specific share went up and down using "insider" (not really insider) information. I would suggest using this website since you can track like a BUNCH of congress members and its wayyyy easier to navigate through. You can also take a look at different strategies and portfolio's of significant people:

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the return in the image is starting is all time return.

Take a look at this website. There is a free version of it too.

If you want the open insider website (free but hard to use) : OpenInsider

Thank you so much, I also heard that banks play a big big role in the stock market, is there any way to predict when banks load a shit ton of money into one stock?

 

[ilovearcherqueen]

Thank you so much, I also heard that banks play a big big role in the stock market, is there any way to predict when banks load a shit ton of money into one stock?

Only way is by being part of that sector in a bank/networking with people who work in that field. this is true insider info, its kinda a grey area because technically its illegal but still the gov turns a blind eye. you can look at institutions on the website i gave you. but you cannot predict what a bank/institution is going to do unless you know someone