who has the shortest midface on this site

[PurplePaintBox]

Mine is 58mm. Measured from iris of eye to top lip.

 

[Golden Glass]

Relative or absolute?

@Titbot has a very very compact midface relative to his IPD. But idk his measurement in mm.

And by iris do you mean pupil?

 

[her]

Mine is 38mm. Measured from iris of eye to top lip.

 

[Golden Glass]

Mine is 38mm. Measured from iris of eye to top lip.

Hella compact. How tall is your head?

Using a digital caliper, mine is 52.49 mm

 

[Hades]

From the nasion to my top lip is 66mm

 

[Averagecel]

Mine is ~ 6.7 cm.

 

[SpearOfOrion]

gigaslayer

 

[Averagecel]

I have a big skull.

 

[Deleted member 3990]

me definitely

 

[Deleted member 4887]

65mm will lower this to 62mm w/ lipLift and maybe rhino

 

[Tiddlywink]

70mm

 

[Golden Glass]

me definitely

Then post your mm measurement

 

[Deleted member 3990]

Then post your mm measurement

see for your self, incel

Spoiler: me

 

[Golden Glass]

see for your self, incel

Spoiler: me

Is midface mogged by @Pietrosiek . Better luck next life

 

[Deleted member 3990]

Is midface mogged by @Pietrosiek . Better luck next life

pass the rope

 

[PurplePaintBox]

Mine is 38mm. Measured from iris of eye to top lip.

You can’t be serious, unless you look something like this

 

[Golden Glass]

You can’t be serious, unless you look something like this
View attachment 261937

Needs bimax with Lefort 3 and will be solid stacylite

 

[PurplePaintBox]

Relative or absolute?

@Titbot has a very very compact midface relative to his IPD. But idk his measurement in mm.

And by iris do you mean pupil?

Absolute. The average human male IPD is 64mm so Im guessing most male midface lengths are around that too.

Hella compact. How tall is your head?

Using a digital caliper, mine is 52.49 mm

Measured my head height from bottom of chin to top of head and its 23cm guessing its very short? On camera though it looks long though.

70mm

Damn thats Ryan Goslings midface length

 

[Golden Glass]

Absolute. The average human male IPD is 64mm so Im guessing most male midface lengths are around that too.

I have now realized that my midface ratio is insane.

My IPD is 70mm and the midface length from pupil to top of upper lip is 52.5mm

Due to my wide bizygo width it doesn’t even look out of place on my huge skull.

Have come to the conclusion I will look like a mediterranean Barrett after I looksmax. Chico proportions just aren’t realistic for me :/

 

[PurplePaintBox]

I have now realized that my midface ratio is insane.

My IPD is 70mm and the midface length from pupil to top of upper lip is 52.5mm

Due to my wide bizygo width it doesn’t even look out of place on my huge skull.

Have come to the conclusion I will look like a mediterranean Barrett after I looksmax. Chico proportions just aren’t realistic for me :/

1.3 midface ratio. Fucking gigachad get off this site

 

[Golden Glass]

fucking gigachad get off this site

Won’t be even a chadlite until I fix my underbite, under eye support, and nose. For now I am ht normie-ish.
But thanks

 

[Averagecel]

70mm

Gigachad midface length.

 

[Deleted member 4887]

1.3 midface ratio. Fucking gigachad get off this site

the fuck does a 1.3 midface ratio even look like

 

[Averagecel]

My IPD is 70mm and the midface length from pupil to top of upper lip is 52.5mm

1.3 midface ratio. Fucking gigachad get off this site

You're being sarcastic, right? 1.3 is shit tier. Even long midface looks better than a too short midface.

the fuck does a 1.3 midface ratio even look like

It looks like shit.

 

[PurplePaintBox]

You're being sarcastic, right? 1.3 is shit tier. Even long midface looks better than a too short midface.

It looks like shit.

jealousy?

 

[Golden Glass]

You're being sarcastic, right? 1.3 is shit tier. Even long midface looks better than a too short midface.

I didn’t believe I had it either, because it doesn’t look that compact in real life—I used to think I’d need a lip lift to try to shorten my midface when I first learned about mewing and midfacial collapse.

I will just have to Matthew Boling-Max

 

[Deleted member 656]

Ideal is 64 mm

 

[Golden Glass]

Ideal is 64 mm

Elab on why this instead of just equal to or less than IPD, assuming skull size is also scaled proportionally.

 

[Deleted member 656]

Elab on why this instead of just equal to or less than IPD, assuming skull size is also scaled proportionally.

It does adapt to IPD somewhat.

64 mm is the average IPD. I assume you already know averageness is ideal.

To preserve proper ratios an IPD below 64 mm necessarily means a smaller skull. This is near negligable when a couple mm but beyond there it adds up.

Chico has near enough average measurements, ~ 65 mm midface and IPD. Harmonious and balanced - ideal 1.0 ratio.

O'Pry's midface is just under 63 mm in height and his IPD is about 69 mm. Morphed with a longer midface he tends to look worse with the exception if a slightly taller philtrum, closer to the 14 mm ideal. A 69 mm midface doesn't suit him at all.

Averageness + health / youthfulness + dimorphism is ideal

14 mm philtrum puts you just on the more youthful, healthy side of average whilst still being longer than a woman's.

Nose doesn't lengthen much with age and 50 mm is about average.

 

[Golden Glass]

It does adapt to IPD somewhat.

64 mm is the average IPD. I assume you already know averageness is ideal.

To preserve proper ratios an IPD below 64 mm necessarily means a smaller skull. This is near negligable when a couple mm but beyond there it adds up.

Chico has near enough average measurements, ~ 65 mm midface and IPD. Harmonious and balanced - ideal 1.0 ratio.

O'Pry's midface is just under 63 mm in height and his IPD is about 69 mm. Morphed with a longer midface he tends to look worse with the exception if a slightly taller philtrum, closer to the 14 mm ideal. A 69 mm midface doesn't suit him at all.

Averageness + health / youthfulness + dimorphism is ideal

14 mm philtrum puts you just on the more youthful, healthy side of average whilst still being longer than a woman's.

Nose doesn't lengthen much with age and 50 mm is about average.

Since you’re among the most proportions-aware users here, I have 2 questions.

1. We’ve been basing all these mm measurements on the assumption that every person has the same iris length of 11.77mm. Doing so, then comparing their measurements, with mine, would make no sense to me. Why? Because my irises are about 12.75-13mm long (anime character tier lmao, if you’re wondering, my PFL is 31mm) So in my case, would it not be better to assume those iris lengths for all the faces’ proportions I’d try comparing mine to?

2. I still can’t believe my midface, from pupil to upper border of top lip, is 52.5mm— The weird part is in photographs (even professional ones like drivers license and ones taken from a good distance, with no chin tilt), my ratio is about 1.15, while using the raw mm measurements, it’s about 1.33. Can you think of any explanation for that?

 

[Deleted member 656]

Since you’re among the most proportions-aware users here, I have 2 questions.

1. We’ve been basing all these mm measurements on the assumption that every person has the same iris length of 11.77mm. Doing so, then comparing their measurements, with mine, would make no sense to me. Why? Because my irises are about 12.75-13mm long (anime character tier lmao, if you’re wondering, my PFL is 31mm) So in my case, would it not be better to assume those iris lengths for all the faces’ proportions I’d try comparing mine to?

Are you near sighted by chance? That tends to cause larger irises. But even then 13 mm is right on the upper extreme.

The measurements might be slightly off but with enough pictures you generally work off a more or less accurate estimate and the proportions are identical regardless.

2. I still can’t believe my midface, from pupil to upper border of top lip, is 52.5mm— The weird part is in photographs (even professional ones like drivers license and ones taken from a good distance, with no chin tilt), my ratio is about 1.15, while using the raw mm measurements, it’s about 1.33. Can you think of any explanation for that?

It's all angles, there can be no other explanation. Trust the photos - though I'm extremely sceptical about that measurement.

 

[Golden Glass]

Are you near sighted by chance? That tends to cause larger irises. But even then 13 mm is right on the upper extreme.

The measurements might be slightly off but with enough pictures you generally work off a more or less accurate estimate and the proportions are identical regardless.

Yeah I’m near sighted. Myopics have larger irises. And yeah it sounds like for larger irised individuals, you should estimate using your own size to really gauge the proportions better.

For instance, my IPD to iris length ratio is 5.5-5.6

On the “average” iris, that would make my IPD 64.3-65.9mm totally normal range right?

Yet my IPD is actually 70mm, but still having this 5.5-5.6 ratio relative to my iris length—so I’m guessing this is why to this day I find it unbelievable my IPD is in fact this wide—it just looks average range.

And my 70mm IPD looks nothing like a 70mm IPD on a face with 11.77mm irises. The IPD to iris ratio there would be a whopping 5.95. So I’ve come to the conclusion that for my eyes to really look like an “average” irised persons 70mm IPD, my IPD would need to be above 75mm, due to how large my irises are. Do you see any flaws in this reasoning?

Are you near sighted by chance? That tends to cause larger irises. But even then 13 mm is right on the upper extreme.

The measurements might be slightly off but with enough pictures you generally work off a more or less accurate estimate and the proportions are identical regardless.

It's all angles, there can be no other explanation. Trust the photos - though I'm extremely sceptical about that measurement.

I got my measurements using a digital caliper that goes as accurate as 0.01mm, and essentially touched my eyeball with one end lmao. Also had my IPD measured professionally. And have you tried physically measuring your IPD and midface, and come to a different ratio than ones from photographs?

 

[Deleted member 656]

Yeah I’m near sighted. Myopics have larger irises. And yeah it sounds like for larger irised individuals, you should estimate using your own size to really gauge the proportions better.

For instance, my IPD to iris length ratio is 5.5-5.6

On the “average” iris, that would make my IPD 64.3-65.9mm totally normal range right?

Yet my IPD is actually 70mm, but still having this 5.5-5.6 ratio relative to my iris length—so I’m guessing this is why to this day I find it unbelievable my IPD is in fact this wide—it just looks average range.

And my 70mm IPD looks nothing like a 70mm IPD on a face with 11.77mm irises. The IPD to iris ratio there would be a whopping 5.95. So I’ve come to the conclusion that for my eyes to really look like an “average” irised persons 70mm IPD, my IPD would need to be above 75mm, due to how large my irises are. Do you see any flaws in this reasoning?


I got my measurements using a digital caliper that goes as accurate as 0.01mm, and essentially touched my eyeball with one end lmao. Also had my IPD measured professionally. And have you tried physically measuring your IPD and midface, and come to a different ratio than ones from photographs?

Your logic makes sense, yeah. Would be interesting to see pictures.

I've tried physically taking my measurements and taking them from photos. They're pretty much identical - IPD is about 0.5 mm wider in pictures but that could easily just be human error on my part when physically taking the measurement.

 

[Golden Glass]

Your logic makes sense, yeah. Would be interesting to see pictures.

I've tried physically taking my measurements and taking them from photos. They're pretty much identical - IPD is about 0.5 mm wider in pictures but that could easily just be human error on my part when physically taking the measurement.

Maybe one day I’ll be low inhib enough to post pics here. Based on my real measurements, my IPD to midface ratio is very close to this Matthew Boling morph with a wider IPD:

Below is the original:

 

[Deleted member 656]

How is your midface measurement broken down? How much is nose and how much is philtrum?

Maybe one day I’ll be low inhib enough to post pics here. Based on my real measurements, mu IPD to midface ratio is very close to this Matthew Boling morph with a wider IPD:
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Below is the original:
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[Golden Glass]

How is your midface measurement broken down? How much is nose and how much is philtrum?

Hold on I did by best to be more accurate with the caliper, and I got a much more relieving measurement of 57.12 mm for pupil to upper border of top lip distance. Makes my ratio 1.22 (still high but not as crazy, and closer to the 1.15ish I get from pics)

My philtrum is about 15-15.5mm (0.5mm Marvin of error due to my facial hair.

 

[Deleted member 656]

Hold on I did by best to be more accurate with the caliper, and I got a much more relieving measurement of 57.12 mm for pupil to upper border of top lip distance. Makes my ratio 1.22 (still high but not as crazy, and closer to the 1.15ish I get from pics)

My philtrum is about 15-15.5mm (0.5mm Marvin of error due to my facial hair.

57 mm is a lot more probable. Very short none the less, especially if you're white.

 

[Golden Glass]

Very short none the less, especially if you're white.

Why I say I will just have to accept that I will at best look like a Mediterranean and wider IPD’d Matthew Boling after all my looksmaxing... no chance at prettyboy for me. I will still get stroma for lighter eyes and eyelash max to try to get an eye area more like that Dom prettyboy will McCann.

 

[Deleted member 656]

Why I say I will just have to accept that I will at best look like a Mediterranean and wider IPD’d Matthew Boling after all my looksmaxing... no chance at prettyboy for me.

This isn't a rule

 

[weallburninhell]

Mine is 58mm. Measured from iris of eye to top lip.

3 inches

 

[Deleted member 1140]

idk why this forum is so obsessed with short midfaces. chicos midface is ideal imo. everything else looks weird or alienlike

 

[Golden Glass]

This isn't a rule

It’s a joke lol

idk why this forum is so obsessed with short midfaces. chicos midface is ideal imo. everything else looks weird or alienlike

I will be a good looking alien then

 

[Vidyacoper]

my midface ratio is ~1.17 and my philtrum is like 2mm or so shorter than sean o pry's

 

[Deleted member 656]

It’s a joke lol

I will be a good looking alien then

It's a joke that conceals a genuine concern though. I've never seen a prettyboy with a midface that short and it's certainly an apeish measurement. If you have the base to work with and that's the only real 'flaw' it'll be interesting to see how you come out.

 

[needsolution]

Wtf i read here just lol
Below 60mm measurments? Some close to 50mm? Legit lold learn how to measure properly

Daily reminder that Leonardo DiCaprio has midface lenght of 61-62mm and his midface is very compact.

Do u have 0.01% percentile skulls or what?

 

[Deleted member 656]

my philtrum is like 2mm or so shorter than sean o pry's

idk why this forum is so obsessed with short midfaces. chicos midface is ideal imo. everything else looks weird or alienlike

It's that 14 mm philtrum and average length nose. Chad combo.

 

[Vidyacoper]

It's that 14 mm philtrum and average length nose. Chad combo.

its harmonious and fits my face perfectly

 

[Deleted member 656]

Daily reminder that Leonardo DiCaprio has midface lenght of 61-62mm and his midface is very compact.

Di Caprio's midface isn't that compact, it just looks so because his bizygomatic is so wide. Shrink his bizygo and you'll see it looks more normal.

its harmonious and fits my face perfectly

Being 5'7" is harmonious and fits my vibe perfectly

 

[Vidyacoper]

Di Caprio's midface isn't that compact, it just looks so because his bizygomatic is so wide. Shrink his bizygo and you'll see it looks more normal.


Being 5'7" is harmonious and fits my vibe perfectly

YOURE JUST JEALOUS OF MY BEAUTIFULLY SHORT, CURVED PHILTRUM MAKING ME A COMPACT WIDE-FACED SLAYER

 

[Golden Glass]

It's a joke that conceals a genuine concern though. I've never seen a prettyboy with a midface that short and it's certainly an apeish measurement. If you have the base to work with and that's the only real 'flaw' it'll be interesting to see how you come out.

Yeah I think my large irises, arched eyebrows, and already good eyelashes (which means they can get to an insane level by looksmaxing them), as well as iris lightening, will all help “soften” my features.

And Barrett has a similar ratio to mine (with my more accurate midface measurement)—I think most people would agree he’s a prettyboy.

Wtf i read here just lol
Below 60mm measurments? Some close to 50mm? Legit lold learn how to measure properly

Daily reminder that Leonardo DiCaprio has midface lenght of 61-62mm and his midface is very compact.

Do u have 0.01% percentile skulls or what?

Yes. This isn’t some sort of humble brag or larp I’ve made. See my thread here:

I’m doing self measurements and for the ratio of:
interpupillary distance
divided by
distance from pupil to top border of upper lip

I get between 1.166 to 1.175 depending on the picture.

The higher the ratio, the more compact your mid face is relative to your IPD.

This seems super surprising considering these other ratios from different males:

Jordan Barrett: 1.1428

Jono Jenkins: 1.1298

Ed Jenkins: 1.10714

Sean O’Pry: 1.1034

Francisco Lachowski: 1.0120

Matthew Boling: About 1 (low quality picture)

Ángel Di María (horse face): 0.8247

So I wanted to know if any of you know of any men with VERY compact midfaces, so I can try to find someone with a similar ratio?

BTW doing measurements like these is incredibly helpful because I used to think I was going to maxillary impaction but at this high a ratio (probably due to my 68-70 mm IPD), I’m starting to question that.

Link: https://looksmax.org/threads/examples-of-compact-midfaces.74846
I also measured DiCaprios in that thread