I agree with both
fuck antinatalism we are all sinister accelerationists
i mean if i have the power to end every life in existence i would do that tbh.
why is it bs?
When you have a child, it's obvious that he's gonna experience pain. Pain out weighs pleasure in this world. You are the cause and are actually responsible for the pain they experience. If you had controlled yourself through means he would have never experienced that. A simple paper cut is bcz of the parents. The child was never asked to be born but bcz of the parents he now is.
Yea and the best to have kids is to adopt poor kids that dont have opportunities to experience fun in life.
Okay
ur right
The philosophy that said we shouldnโt have kids bc its bring pain and suffering to the kids. Go look it up.
Pain is both objective and subjective, everyone has different outcomes. A person does not choose to be born, but they also did not choose to not be born. It should be the person's decision, not a moral right that people shouldn't exist because they will experience suffering.
But why did you say that if you could you would kill everyone in the world? I donโt see how thatโs good
Actually itโs more โmorallyโ right to give life to children because then they have the choice to either live or to kill themselves
Good idea but there are no good solutions. Based from what you said
Agreed
But if you have the choice to give someone life or no, your answer should be no. As the out weigh logic
Thats not antinalism, antinatalism only talk about not having kids but what i said is different.
Can i hear why?
My worst nightmare
Yea but thatโs just morally wrong
Only if the retarded is a girl
"Suffering outweighs pleasure" is a deeply subjective term, something that's for another debate, and the argument only works if we agree that Suffering actually outweighs pleasure, which is still debatable and i don't quite agree on
you cat give life to someone with consent thatโs true ofc but you also canโt be sure if they donโt want life so the most logical way to do this is to give life and if they donโt want it they should kill themselves
People suffers from someone else suicidal btw
Not inherently? They guy that killed himself did it because that was the best for him
Our mom could cry her eyes out if we kill ourself
the kind the has zero suffering
Where is the suffering?
well if it hurts her that much then let her kill her self but Iโm pretty sure sheโs not going to do that because she values her life the same way all living things does
if we are talking abt this topic we should talk in general. For the vast majority of the people in the world this statement is true. But still it's subjective. The other chances are there too, eg your child becomes a killer, thief, rapist, a corrupt person etc, which would cause other people pain.
if i delete the living things fast enough they wouldnโt even feel sad that their lives going to as i said my idea is to end suffering and thats the only true way
I donโt want to die
Its okay we already dead and this is hell
Hell feels nice
For a while.
