Who here likes Nietzsche?

[Zaref]

no, existentialism is self-refuting and comes from false premise.
the best we have is aristotelianism. And christianity also mogs that existential shit

Existentialism doesn't offer an objective truth or meaning and doesn't claim to do so, it's a practical response to crisis.

Science mogs both aristotelianism and Christianity.

 

[Deleted member 231621]

Existentialism doesn't offer an objective truth or meaning and doesn't claim to do so, it's a practical response to crisis.

so if it doesn't offer an objective truth, then no reason to be an existentialist because it is not the truth

Science mogs both aristotelianism and Christianity.

scientism is retarded and self-refuting

 

[Zaref]

so if it doesn't offer an objective truth, then no reason to be an existentialist because it is not the truth

Why do you need an objective truth ?

scientism is retarded and self-refuting

 

[Deleted member 231621]

Why do you need an objective truth ?

cuz an unexamined life is not worth living.
you can keep living in your delusions though

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[Zaref]

cuz an unexamined life is not worth living.
you can keep living in your delusions though

How can you arrive at the conclusion that life is meaningless and you'll have to provide it with your meaning, if you don't examine it ?

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Elaborate. I'd argue science is self transcending rather than self refuting

 

[Deleted member 231621]

How can you arrive at the conclusion that life is meaningless and you'll have to provide it with your meaning, if you don't examine it ?

if you did examine it then you wouldn't think that it is meaningless because if life is meaningless then the statement is also meaningless

Elaborate. I'd argue science is self transcending rather than self refuting

so can you scientifically prove that science is above aristotelianism and christianity?

 

[Zaref]

if you did examine it then you wouldn't think that it is meaningless because if life is meaningless then the statement is also meaningless

This is a linguistic problem not a philosophical one, Wittgenstein talks about it. It's like saying "You can’t coherently deny meaning without using meaning"

so can you scientifically prove that science is above aristotelianism and christianity?

Science doesn't do that but it can prove christianity is a false worldview because it is anti-scientific

 

[Deleted member 231621]

This is a linguistic problem not a philosophical one, Wittgenstein talks about it. It's like saying "You can’t coherently deny meaning without using meaning"

alright if it is just a linguistic problem rather than philosophical then i can claim that this statement is just a linguistic shit as well

Science doesn't do that but it can prove christianity is a false worldview because it is anti-scientific

basically: christianity is wrong because it is anti-scientific, it is antiscientific because it is false, it is false because science can't disprove it.
just fucking LOL.

 

[Zaref]

basically: christianity is wrong because it is anti-scientific, it is antiscientific because it is false, it is false because science can't disprove it.
just fucking LOL

It sounds self contradictory because you're using science to disapprove metaphysical claims (it can't do that) rather than testable, emperical claims within Christianity like Earth's creationism.

 

[svarddre]

Sub5 neurotic

 

[Deleted member 231621]

It sounds self contradictory because you're using science to disapprove metaphysical claims (it can't do that) rather than testable, emperical claims within Christianity like Earth's creationism.

so if it cannot disapprove metaphysical claims then how does scientism mog aristotelianism and christianity?

 

[ChrisFletcher]

He was an incel
Im not taking advice from somebody who would have a red name on here if he was born in modern times

 

[Bugmaxxed]

Me! (i have never read a single word of his writing)

 

[Deleted member 215456]

Me! (i have never read a single word of his writing)

Same

He was an incel
Im not taking advice from somebody who would have a red name on here if he was born in modern times

he would be lifetime vip

 

[Mizi44]

existentialism comes from nihilism

Not at all and even if it wouldn't mean it's the same

 

[Deleted member 231621]

Not at all and even if it wouldn't mean it's the same

existentialism is an active form of nihilism according to nietzche

 

[Mizi44]

existentialism is an active form of nihilism according to nietzche

No

 

[Deleted member 231621]

No

why is that?

 

[Mizi44]

why is that?

He told me he lied when he said that