Who would you support in a war Russia vs. Ukraine?

[Tusseleif]

If Russia fully invades Ukraine, then I support Ukraine, but I think Russia should be allowed to keep Crimea

 

[Deleted member 4430]

Manlet, dickcel, baldcel, oldcel, he's a disgusting piece of shit.

Ironic

 

[AlexAP]

Ironic

Ironic

Ironic

 

[AlexAP]

If Russia fully invades Ukraine, then I support Ukraine, but I think Russia should be allowed to keep Crimea

The question was about a full invasion.

 

[Tusseleif]

The question was about a full invasion.

So? I answered you retard, can’t you read?

 

[AlexAP]

So? I answered you retard, can’t you read?

I know, I thought you voted for Russia in the poll, just saw it was Ukraine.

 

[Deleted member 13332]

Invasion is a correct answer if nato will expand in Ukraine

 

[Deleted member 6305]

I support russia so they destroy ukraine and I can receive ukranian refugees jbs

 

[HighIQcel]

There won't be a war. Just flexing muscles from Russia.

 

[AlexAP]

There won't be a war. Just flexing muscles from Russia.

You still believe that?

 

[abeilletoimême]

Ukraine because I'm against imperialism on principle

In non-cucked countries men dont care about their appearance in general, they see it low t. Also it is based af tbh a presidents role is being a good leader not being handsome

This doesn't apply to younger men even in "non-cucked" countries, places like Afghanistan aside

 

[Deleted member 15099]

There is the real possibility that there will be a war between Russia and Ukraine in the next months. Who would you support? I think Ukraine mogs tbh, Putin is a disgusting, filthy manlet that needs to visit Gandy heaven.
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UKRAINE MOGS RUSSIA TBH!

 

[abeilletoimême]

Russia
Anti women's rights
Anti Jews

Delusional

 

[Deleted member 16134]

Delusional

Massive cope

 

[AlexAP]

Ukraine because I'm against imperialism on principle


This doesn't apply to younger men even in "non-cucked" countries, places like Afghanistan aside

Yes in some Arab countries men wear kajal eyeliners and have their own beard styles.

 

[traveler]

ukraine since they female have bigger tits

 

[AlexAP]

ukraine since they female have bigger tits

Source?

 

[Xangsane]

@subhuman incel would support Russia only because of one young woman

 

[gamma]

Russia!

 

[AlexAP]

Russia!

Nope. Ukraine mogs.

 

[gamma]

Nope. Ukraine mogs.

Mogs in what?

 

[AlexAP]

Mogs in what?

Russia is the aggressor, Ukraine has the right to defend itself. They should win if there is a war.

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Я благодарен Богу за то, что Я русский.

 

[gamma]

Russia is the aggressor, Ukraine has the right to defend itself. They should win if there is a war.

You forgot why Russia wants to attack

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Russia is the aggressor, Ukraine has the right to defend itself. They should win if there is a war.

I hope if a war breaks out, Russia annihilates the apparatus of the Jewish State of Ukraine (Kolomoiskiy, Yatsenyuk, Zelensky--The Ukrainian government literally has enough Jews to make a minyan) so utterly and convincingly that they become paranoid Putin is planning on necromancing Hitler from the dead.

I stand with my people wherever our destiny may go.

 

[AlexAP]

I hope if a war breaks out, Russia annihilates the apparatus of the Jewish State of Ukraine (Kolomoiskiy, Yatsenyuk, Zelensky--The Ukrainian government literally has enough Jews to make a minyan) so utterly and convincingly that they become paranoid Putin is planning on necromancing Hitler from the dead.

I stand with my people wherever our destiny may go.

So "Right or wrong, my country"?

(Unrelated pic of Putin)

 

[Callooh_Calais]

There won't be a war. Just flexing muscles from Russia.

Actually it's non-stop warmongering from the United States and UK:

 

[AlexAP]

You forgot why Russia wants to attack

Because he thinks Ukraine is Russia.

 

[Callooh_Calais]

So "Right or wrong, my country"?

(Unrelated pic of Putin)
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What does this picture have to do with anything? I don't understand what this has to do with Ukraine being a Jewish neoliberal gangster regime

 

[AlexAP]

What does this picture have to do with anything? I don't understand what this has to do with Ukraine being a Jewish neoliberal gangster regime

Russia is full of oligarchs, Ukraine is full of oligarchs.

And who cares if they're Jews, Abramovic is Jewish too.

 

[Deleted member 16571]

What does this picture have to do with anything? I don't understand what this has to do with Ukraine being a Jewish neoliberal gangster regime

Pretty sure Putin’s half Jewish brah
What about all the Jewish Russian oligarchs that have a monopoly over the resources of the country?
In my opinion, Russia is in the same cucked state as Ukraine.

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Because he thinks Ukraine is Russia.

Vladimir Putin himself explains how it's a fact that Ukraine was part of Russia for thousands of years and only became an independent entity with its own separate ethnic conciousness in the late 1800s due to Bolshevik agitation:

I am not going to idealise anything. We do know there were the Valuev Circular of 1863 an then the Ems Ukaz of 1876, which restricted the publication and importation of religious and socio-political literature in the Ukrainian language. But it is important to be mindful of the historical context. These decisions were taken against the backdrop of dramatic events in Poland and the desire of the leaders of the Polish national movement to exploit the ”Ukrainian issue“ to their own advantage. I should add that works of fiction, books of Ukrainian poetry and folk songs continued to be published. There is objective evidence that the Russian Empire was witnessing an active process of development of the Malorussian cultural identity within the greater Russian nation, which united the Velikorussians, the Malorussians and the Belorussians.

At the same time, the idea of Ukrainian people as a nation separate from the Russians started to form and gain ground among the Polish elite and a part of the Malorussian intelligentsia. Since there was no historical basis – and could not have been any, conclusions were substantiated by all sorts of concoctions, which went as far as to claim that the Ukrainians are the true Slavs and the Russians, the Muscovites, are not. Such ”hypotheses“ became increasingly used for political purposes as a tool of rivalry between European states.

Since the late 19th century, the Austro-Hungarian authorities had latched onto this narrative, using it as a counterbalance to the Polish national movement and pro-Muscovite sentiments in Galicia. During World War I, Vienna played a role in the formation of the so-called Legion of Ukrainian Sich Riflemen. Galicians suspected of sympathies with Orthodox Christianity and Russia were subjected to brutal repression and thrown into the concentration camps of Thalerhof and Terezin.

Further developments had to do with the collapse of European empires, the fierce civil war that broke out across the vast territory of the former Russian Empire, and foreign intervention.

After the February Revolution, in March 1917, the Central Rada was established in Kiev, intended to become the organ of supreme power. In November 1917, in its Third Universal, it declared the creation of the Ukrainian People's Republic (UPR) as part of Russia.

In December 1917, UPR representatives arrived in Brest-Litovsk, where Soviet Russia was negotiating with Germany and its allies. At a meeting on 10 January 1918, the head of the Ukrainian delegation read out a note proclaiming the independence of Ukraine. Subsequently, the Central Rada proclaimed Ukraine independent in its Fourth Universal.

The declared sovereignty did not last long. Just a few weeks later, Rada delegates signed a separate treaty with the German bloc countries. Germany and Austria-Hungary were at the time in a dire situation and needed Ukrainian bread and raw materials. In order to secure large-scale supplies, they obtained consent for sending their troops and technical staff to the UPR. In fact, this was used as a pretext for occupation.

For those who have today given up the full control of Ukraine to external forces, it would be instructive to remember that, back in 1918, such a decision proved fatal for the ruling regime in Kiev. With the direct involvement of the occupying forces, the Central Rada was overthrown and Hetman Pavlo Skoropadskyi was brought to power, proclaiming instead of the UPR the Ukrainian State, which was essentially under German protectorate.

In November 1918 – following the revolutionary events in Germany and Austria-Hungary – Pavlo Skoropadskyi, who had lost the support of German bayonets, took a different course, declaring that ”Ukraine is to take the lead in the formation of an All-Russian Federation“. However, the regime was soon changed again. It was now the time of the so-called Directorate.

In autumn 1918, Ukrainian nationalists proclaimed the West Ukrainian People's Republic (WUPR) and, in January 1919, announced its unification with the Ukrainian People's Republic. In July 1919, Ukrainian forces were crushed by Polish troops, and the territory of the former WUPR came under the Polish rule.

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The example of the UPR shows that different kinds of quasi-state formations that emerged across the former Russian Empire at the time of the Civil War and turbulence were inherently unstable. Nationalists sought to create their own independent states, while leaders of the White movement advocated indivisible Russia. Many of the republics established by the Bolsheviks' supporters did not see themselves outside Russia either. Nevertheless, Bolshevik Party leaders sometimes basically drove them out of Soviet Russia for various reasons.

Thus, in early 1918, the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic was proclaimed and asked Moscow to incorporate it into Soviet Russia. This was met with a refusal. During a meeting with the republic's leaders, Vladimir Lenin insisted that they act as part of Soviet Ukraine. On 15 March 1918, the Central Committee of the Russian Communist Party (Bolsheviks) directly ordered that delegates be sent to the Ukrainian Congress of Soviets, including from the Donetsk Basin, and that ”one government for all of Ukraine“ be created at the congress. The territories of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic later formed most of the regions of south-eastern Ukraine.

Under the 1921 Treaty of Riga, concluded between the Russian SFSR, the Ukrainian SSR and Poland, the western lands of the former Russian Empire were ceded to Poland. In the interwar period, the Polish government pursued an active resettlement policy, seeking to change the ethnic composition of the Eastern Borderlands – the Polish name for what is now Western Ukraine, Western Belarus and parts of Lithuania. The areas were subjected to harsh Polonisation, local culture and traditions suppressed. Later, during World War II, radical groups of Ukrainian nationalists used this as a pretext for terror not only against Polish, but also against Jewish and Russian populations.

In 1922, when the USSR was created, with the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic becoming one of its founders, a rather fierce debate among the Bolshevik leaders resulted in the implementation of Lenin's plan to form a union state as a federation of equal republics. The right for the republics to freely secede from the Union was included in the text of the Declaration on the Creation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and, subsequently, in the 1924 USSR Constitution. By doing so, the authors planted in the foundation of our statehood the most dangerous time bomb, which exploded the moment the safety mechanism provided by the leading role of the CPSU was gone, the party itself collapsing from within. A ”parade of sovereignties“ followed. On 8 December 1991, the so-called Belovezh Agreement on the Creation of the Commonwealth of Independent States was signed, stating that ”the USSR as a subject of international law and a geopolitical reality no longer existed.“ By the way, Ukraine never signed or ratified the CIS Charter adopted back in 1993.

TL;DR (Since admittingly, it is a very long read) Ukraine has long been a pawn between powers rivalling Russia as a means to expand into her borders, and this was initially accomplished by upsetting the diverse ethnic elements that existed already in the region (Moravians, Jews, etc.) prior to the creation of a national Ukranian identity; Eventually, the Austria-Hungary/Polish project of attempting to pick off Ukraine and turn it into a hinterland was carried on by the Bolsheviks who wanted to destroy the White Movement and thus attempted to cleave off Ukraine by saying they were a separate ethnic people entirely.

If you actually read the history, it makes sense why people say Ukraine isn't a real nation (or at the very least, their concept of nationhood was created by foreigners intent on separating them from the rest of Russia)

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Russia is full of oligarchs, Ukraine is full of oligarchs.

And who cares if they're Jews, Abramovic is Jewish too.

Yeah, but Russia's oligarchs don't serve the forces of gayjew globohomo

 

[abeilletoimême]

Yes in some Arab countries men wear kajal eyeliners

It's weird how despite Arab countries being more homophobic, there are some widespread practices that would be seen as "typically gay" even in the West

I hope if a war breaks out, Russia annihilates the apparatus of the Jewish State of Ukraine (Kolomoiskiy, Yatsenyuk, Zelensky--The Ukrainian government literally has enough Jews to make a minyan) so utterly and convincingly that they become paranoid Putin is planning on necromancing Hitler from the dead.

I stand with my people wherever our destiny may go.

Current Russian PM is Jewish, stop pretending Russia is an ethnostate

Mogs in what?

In being right, in this particular situation. I'm not Ukrainian so impartial here, but if a war does break out, Ukrainians have the full moral right to defend their country against imperialist invaders.

 

[Callooh_Calais]

It's weird how despite Arab countries being more homophobic, there are some widespread practices that would be seen as "typically gay" even in the West


Current Russian PM is Jewish, stop pretending Russia is an ethnostate


In being right, in this particular situation. I'm not Ukrainian so impartial here, but if a war does break out, Ukrainians have the full moral right to defend their country against imperialist invaders.

Russia has never been an ethnostate, not even in the beginning when the concept of a unitary Russian state was literally formed by the Mongolian rulers who gave Yaroslav II of Vladimir permission to rule as Knyaz in their name in 1243.

Rather, it's the fact that I'm a Russian, the entire West hates me for my blood and my ancestry, and that the same West stands in diametric opposition to virtually everything I believe in and stand for.

This isn't some mere larp that I take on in order to satisfy some urge for shock and awe. This is literally something I have to think about every day of my life

 

[AlexAP]

Rather, it's the fact that I'm a Russian, the entire West hates me for my blood and my ancestry, and that the same West stands in diametric opposition to virtually everything I believe in and stand for.

No one in the West hates Russians for their blood.

 

[abeilletoimême]

Rather, it's the fact that I'm a Russian

Weird, no offence, but you sound like an American who thinks Putin is the "saviour of the white race", not like an actual person from Russia

 

[chaddyboi66]

There is the real possibility that there will be a war between Russia and Ukraine in the next months. Who would you support? I think Ukraine mogs tbh, Putin is a disgusting, filthy manlet that needs to visit Gandy heaven.
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[Jason Voorhees]

Who are u supporting @thompson

 

[Marsiere214]

Kill hohos and ruskyies too

 

[AlexAP]

I’m getting deployed to Ukraine next month

I hope that's not you, otherwise I will never trust the U.S. Army again.

 

[AlexAP]

Why not

Brutal, an .org member is in the U.S. Army.

@gamma
@n0rthface

 

[n0rthface]

Russia is the aggressor, Ukraine has the right to defend itself. They should win if there is a war.

Wrong nato is the aggressor.

they will build nato military and missile bases right next to Russia, just an arms length away from Moscow. The situation is very similar to the Cuban missile crisis.

I do support genuine Ukrainian nationalists though.

 

[AlexAP]

Wrong nato is the aggressor.

they will build nato military and missile bases right next to Russia, just an arms length away from Moscow. The situation is very similar to the Cuban missile crisis.

Doesn't mean that Russia has a right to invade Ukraine.

It's like if Canada would enter an alliance with Russia, the U.S. still wouldn't be justified to invade Canada.

 

[Deleted member 15338]

Wrong nato is the aggressor.

they will build nato military and missile bases right next to Russia, just an arms length away from Moscow. The situation is very similar to the Cuban missile crisis.

I do support genuine Ukrainian nationalists though.

I want to remind it again

This guy is 27 and still thinks NATO is not actually biggest terrorist organization in the World

They are so strong they even control media

 

[Deleted member 15338]

Doesn't mean that Russia has a right to invade Ukraine.

It's like if Canada would enter an alliance with Russia, the U.S. still wouldn't be justified to invade Canada.

Muh having a right to invade, estrogenic point of view

if they invade they invade basic as that

 

[AlexAP]

Muh having a right to invade, estrogenic point of view

if they invade they invade basic as that

JFL the whole discussion was about who is the aggressor.

Yeah yeah I know you think it's high T to invade countries.

 

[Deleted member 15338]

JFL the whole discussion was about who is the aggressor.

Yeah yeah I know you think it's high T to invade countries.

Of course It is fucking high T to invade countries are u out of your mind ?

 

[AlexAP]

Of course It is fucking high T to invade countries are u out of your mind ?

I don't care.

The discussion was about who is the aggressor. I said it was Russia, you said it was the NATO.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

oldcel

ironic