Who's worse: faggots on the forum or dudes like me who say middle school girls who have tits and ass are hot?

[Deleted member 3299]

I need a milf asap

fuck a jb

 

[vaninskybird]

they are mature physically but not mentally

they act like retards at my school

they are never mentally mature

 

[Deleted member 9003]

All social interaction is based in manipulation though

True either way. Most hebe/pedos are truecels just cheating. Epstein had to lie to foids to get them to work for him. And discord pedos chadfish jb’s.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

16/17 y/o foids>

Mature>

Pick one

People in their early 20s (even mid 20s) often act just as immature. Therefore we need to stop infantilizing 16-17 year olds. If 20 year olds are adults, so are 16-17 year olds who finished puberty

 

[Deleted member 3299]

they are never mentally mature

I will see if its true once I reach older age

 

[Deleted member 9003]

People in their early 20s (even mid 20s) often act just as immature. Therefore we need to stop infantilizing 16-17 year olds. If 20 year olds are adults, so are 16-17 year olds who finished puberty

Except there are studies on how the brain develops from your adolescence to your adulthood

 

[Deleted member 4612]

True either way. Most hebe/pedos are truecels just cheating. Epstein had to lie to foids to get them to work for him. And discord pedos chadfish jb’s.

This is called "satellite male" evolutionary strategy

 

[vaninskybird]

Most hebe/pedos are truecels just cheating.

I will see if its true once I reach older age

trust us bro, women are retarded

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Except there are studies on how the brain develops from your adolescence to your adulthood

The teenage brain is a MYTH. Robert Epstein (no he isn’t related to Jeffrey) wrote a book about this. The immaturity and underdeveloped brain is NOT inherent among teens. It actually is caused by society infantilizing teenagers and extending their child hood to 18 (or 21). Look it up. Teenagers long ago used to be much more mature. Also, that doesn’t stop the fact that I’ve met 17 year olds getting a good grade in school and planning to get a PhD later on and go to a good college while there are 22 year olds who use vulgar language, binge drink and party and post memes about no nut novemeber or some shit. You can’t expect everyone in an age group to have the same maturity levels. Also being slightly more mature than someone in the brain DOES NOT mean you are extremely different to them

 

[Ultramental]

daily reminder that jbs want hot guys though and not creepy incels so stop barking about them dogs u will never have a chance anyway

 

[Deleted member 275]

The teenage brain is a MYTH. Robert Epstein (no he isn’t related to Jeffrey) wrote a book about this. The immaturity and underdeveloped brain is NOT inherent among teens. It actually is caused by society infantilizing teenagers and extending their child hood to 18 (or 21). Look it up. Teenagers long ago used to be much more mature. Also, that doesn’t stop the fact that I’ve met 17 year olds getting a good grade in school and planning to get a PhD later on and go to a good college while there are 22 year olds who use vulgar language, binge drink and party and post memes about no nut novemeber or some shit. You can’t expect everyone in an age group to have the same maturity levels. Also being slightly more mature than someone in the brain DOES NOT mean you are extremely different to them

At age 12, Thomas Edison convinced his parents to allow him to leave home in order to sell newspapers to Grand Trunk Railroad train line passengers. In no time he had started his own newspaper and opened a private laboratory in a railway baggage car. Edison was a 12-year-old entrepreneur. This was a steppingstone to the laboratories, inventions and businesses he would once be known for all over the world.

Before you start thinking that Thomas Edison was an especially gifted child, you may want to know that he was kicked out of school at a young age because the teacher said he was not smart enough for school.

So, how did this homeschooled world icon become the Edison we know today? Well, his parents, like the majority of other parents during the 1800s and early 1900s, groomed their children for adulthood and didn’t hold them back.

My grandfather built his first car as a youth in the 1920s. Everyone did. The general population was considered capable of learning basic mechanics, chemistry, architecture, horticulture and much, much more. What happened? Is it really that the children are so different now? Or, is it that the method in which children are being raised now promotes an unhealthy, unnatural, artificial extension of childhood?

There are still Edison-type, adolescent, entrepreneur and super star success stories that happen in these modern times, but they are now the rare exception, when once they were the rule. This is a story of one such exception.

The modern way of raising children and modern education is absolutely terrible to the development of children. And that's coming from someone that enjoyed dutch education at an elite high school, the best public schooling has to offer basically.

Terrible.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

daily reminder that jbs want hot guys though and not creepy incels so stop barking about them dogs u will never have a chance anyway

Not after I surgery Maxx, then ill be above average

 

[Deleted member 9003]

daily reminder that jbs want hot guys though and not creepy incels so stop barking about them dogs u will never have a chance anyway

 

[lutte]

The modern way of raising children and modern education is absolutely terrible to the development of children. And that's coming from someone that enjoyed dutch education at an elite high school, the best public schooling has to offer basically.

Terrible.

It was formed by industrialists to make children into good factory workers/wage slaves what do you expect

 

[Deleted member 275]

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that's cope though. Just be first theory is legit. Women have lower standards for looks when they are young.

An average looking guy could be in a relationship with this 14yo and I wouldn't even be that suprised.

Her at 20yo with an average looking guy? No fucking chance.

 

[Deleted member 275]

It was formed by industrialists to make children into good factory workers/wage slaves what do you expect

I need to become a millionaire asap. Sending your kids to a public school is basically fucking them over and keeping them from reaching their full potential. Decent private schools are expensive asf.

Also in the netherlands, your kids are FORCED to be fucked by public schooling else you as a parent, go to jail. So I will move to a diff country for sure.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

I need to become a millionaire asap. Sending your kids to a public school is basically fucking them over and keeping them from reaching their full potential. Decent private schools are expensive asf.

Also in the netherlands, your kids are FORCED to be fucked by public schooling else you as a parent, go to jail. So I will move to a diff country for sure.

Age of consent in Netherlands?

 

[Deleted member 275]

Age of consent in Netherlands?

16. useless country

 

[Deleted member 4612]

i agree that it gets weird, that's why im saying she needs to look mature enough, she can be 20 but if she looks like a child it's a no

also @personalityinkwell did a bait thread asking if a 16y girl was hot, but it was in fact a 12y model, could u link that, inkwell?? sry if it wasnt you

https://incels.is/threads/that-16-year-old-foid-i-posted-earlier-was-actually-12.230908/

 

[Deleted member 685]

So what if I have a serial killer avi, that’s beside the point and it’s irrelevant to the fact that YOU are trying too hard to act tough online. So stfu with your whataboutism tu quoque logical fallacy. You can’t draw attention away from your flaws by pointing out another person allegedly having the same flaw. Besides, I don’t use a serial killer avi to appear “badass and tough”. I do it because it’s funny as fuck and for shock value

so what if you can say what you want? I can still say that’s it’s cringey and that you probably aren’t as tough irl as you think. People who try to show off how tough they are online usually are the opposite of tough irl. You remind me of when I was 12 trying to intimidate some 20 year old troll back 10 years ago

I didn't even read a word

 

[Cali Yuga]

who's the worst?

the fbi agent reading this

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

I didn't even read a word

Because you’re too lazy to read it or you’re a coward who doesn’t have the balls to respond with an argument

 

[Deleted member 4612]

@werty1457

In the Bible, it says a woman should be married at the youngest age possible. 12 was a common age for marriage.

 

[Deleted member 685]

And to reply to the OP, I'll choose gay people over child exploiting shit excuse making adult men any day. I can't even imagine how people here can compare 2 consenting adult men who do their own thing in the bathroom to full on grown ups trying to make pseudo intellectual arguments as to why grooming a 12 year old should be fine. Not even realizing (This is shown by that other previous Dutch retard replying to this topic with purely anecdotal stuff) 12 year olds have an extremely limited view of the world and are heavily manipulated. And that's not even mentioning the fact that their bodies aren't even fit for sexual intercourse yet.

And no, what you shared says that men are only slightly more attracted towards late teens than girls 11-14. This doesn't justify being attracted to minors who are still being raised by their parents and are way more prone to making shit decisions, regrets, emotional stress and so on.

I can't even imagine how hard the cards have been that society gave you to deal with if you genuinely believe grooming a 12 year old is ideal so you can "see her grow up", that's called having a fucking child you creep, not getting a young girl that's nowhere near your level of relating and intellect.

Next to that the previous retard just brought up the appeal to nature fallacy (which @goat2x already debunked). Which makes no sense, humans aren't shaped perfect for the functioning society were currently living in. We've been living in wars for centuries and the human race still has alot of fucked up primal traits. THIS DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. We don't have to fuck 12 year olds anymore because we die at 25 years old, we don't have to rape women anymore in order to reproduce and survive, and we also don't need to kill or steal anymore. Yet somehow these things should be allowed because of muh way of nature, not even understanding the moral aspect of adapting to an ideal safe functioning society where we work together for progress and the best of us as people.

You guys are sick

 

[Deleted member 685]

@werty1457

In the Bible, it says a woman should be married at the youngest age possible. 12 was a common age for marriage.

And the Bible is a joke, it also mentions a global flood and us coming from only 2 humans, which has been proven not to be true.

 

[goat2x]

@personalityinkwell can u qoute?

 

[goat2x]

@personalityinkwell can u qoute?

imagine comparing a t ime when ppl lived till 30 to nowadays

 

[Deleted member 4612]

And to reply to the OP, I'll choose gay people over child exploiting shit excuse making adult men any day. I can't even imagine how people here can compare 2 consenting adult men who do their own thing in the bathroom to full on grown ups trying to make pseudo intellectual arguments as to why grooming a 12 year old should be fine. Not even realizing (This is shown by that other previous Dutch retard replying to this topic with purely anecdotal stuff) 12 year olds have an extremely limited view of the world and are heavily manipulated. And that's not even mentioning the fact that their bodies aren't even fit for sexual intercourse yet.

And no, what you shared says that men are only slightly more attracted towards late teens than girls 11-14. This doesn't justify being attracted to minors who are still being raised by their parents and are way more prone to making shit decisions, regrets, emotional stress and so on.

I can't even imagine how hard the cards have been that society gave you to deal with if you genuinely believe grooming a 12 year old is ideal so you can "see her grow up", that's called having a fucking child you creep, not getting a young girl that's nowhere near your level of relating and intellect.

Next to that the previous retard just brought up the appeal to nature fallacy (which @goat2x already debunked). Which makes no sense, humans aren't shaped perfect for the functioning society were currently living in. We've been living in wars for centuries and the human race still has alot of fucked up primal traits. THIS DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. We don't have to fuck 12 year olds anymore because we die at 25 years old, we don't have to rape women anymore in order to reproduce and survive, and we also don't need to kill or steal anymore. Yet somehow these things should be allowed because of muh way of nature, not even understanding the moral aspect of adapting to an ideal safe functioning society where we work together for progress and the best of us as people.

You guys are sick

Women in general are stupid as fuck. They are meant to be controlled by men. Look at 50 shades of grey and Handmaid's Take. Women's favorite books. They want to be controlled. That's the way society was built, through patriarchy

 

[Deleted member 5969]

@werty1457

In the Bible, it says a woman should be married at the youngest age possible. 12 was a common age for marriage.

"Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea."
Lusting after innocent children is wrong JFL but you have a point. Mary was 12 and as long as it's a biblical marriage and the girl is mature it's fine, I wouldn't go under 14 no matter what.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

And to reply to the OP, I'll choose gay people over child exploiting shit excuse making adult men any day. I can't even imagine how people here can compare 2 consenting adult men who do their own thing in the bathroom to full on grown ups trying to make pseudo intellectual arguments as to why grooming a 12 year old should be fine. Not even realizing (This is shown by that other previous Dutch retard replying to this topic with purely anecdotal stuff) 12 year olds have an extremely limited view of the world and are heavily manipulated. And that's not even mentioning the fact that their bodies aren't even fit for sexual intercourse yet.

And no, what you shared says that men are only slightly more attracted towards late teens than girls 11-14. This doesn't justify being attracted to minors who are still being raised by their parents and are way more prone to making shit decisions, regrets, emotional stress and so on.

I can't even imagine how hard the cards have been that society gave you to deal with if you genuinely believe grooming a 12 year old is ideal so you can "see her grow up", that's called having a fucking child you creep, not getting a young girl that's nowhere near your level of relating and intellect.

Next to that the previous retard just brought up the appeal to nature fallacy (which @goat2x already debunked). Which makes no sense, humans aren't shaped perfect for the functioning society were currently living in. We've been living in wars for centuries and the human race still has alot of fucked up primal traits. THIS DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. We don't have to fuck 12 year olds anymore because we die at 25 years old, we don't have to rape women anymore in order to reproduce and survive, and we also don't need to kill or steal anymore. Yet somehow these things should be allowed because of muh way of nature, not even understanding the moral aspect of adapting to an ideal safe functioning society where we work together for progress and the best of us as people.

You guys are sick

Also attraction isn't a choice, pursuing sex is. So it doesn't make sense to shame someone for an attraction in the same way you can shame someone for actually going for the sex.

 

[Deleted member 5969]

And the Bible is a joke, it also mentions a global flood and us coming from only 2 humans, which has been proven not to be true.

"Proven"
Macroevolution is a theory
which was made by a racist

Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened, Says Robert Ballard

In an interview with Christiane Amanpour for ABC News, Dr. Robert Ballard, one of the world's leading underwater archaeologists, talked about his findings. His team is scouring the depths of the Black Sea in Turkey in search of traces of an ancient civilization hidden underwater since the time...

abcnews.go.com

 

[Deleted member 685]

Women in general are stupid as fuck. They are meant to be controlled by men. Look at 50 shades of grey and Handmaid's Take. Women's favorite books. They want to be controlled. That's the way society was built, through patriarchy

Dude look I know you're just going to use this as a way to discredit me and think I'm "anti incel" and all that bs when I'm literally incel myself and get no girls at all, but have you ever just thought to yourself that you may be exaggerating these things because of the fact you were never given a piece of the pie? I won't deny women are significantly less intelligent and mature as men generally speaking but you're obviously having an extreme hatred for women and anything around you based on the fact you weren't provided anything. I also don't see how your point of them wanting to be controlled relates to anything I previously mentioned, although I don't see extreme cases of women wanting to be controlled at all and it seems mostly a sexual thing.

 

[goat2x]

"Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea."
Lusting after innocent children is wrong JFL but you have a point. Mary was 12 and as long as it's a biblical marriage and the girl is mature it's fine, I wouldn't go under 14 no matter what.

average age expectancy was fucking 35 compare this to nowadays 73

 

[Deleted member 685]

Also attraction isn't a choice, pursuing sex is. So it doesn't make sense to shame someone for an attraction in the same way you can shame someone for actually going for the sex.

Attractions can still be wrong when if performed cause serious harm. I never said attraction is a choice either. There's a difference between saying you're sexually attracted to minors and realizing it's wrong and can cause serious long term mental harm to a kid if practiced and saying you want to "groom a 12 year old" to watch her fucking grow up

 

[Deleted member 685]

"Proven"
Macroevolution is a theory
which was made by a racist

Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened, Says Robert Ballard

In an interview with Christiane Amanpour for ABC News, Dr. Robert Ballard, one of the world's leading underwater archaeologists, talked about his findings. His team is scouring the depths of the Black Sea in Turkey in search of traces of an ancient civilization hidden underwater since the time...

abcnews.go.com

You're a retard and don't even understand how the term theory is used in the scientific field. I'm not gonna spend even more time in this thread due to some creationist

 

[Deleted member 5969]

average age expectancy was fucking 35 compare this to nowadays 73

Also a valid point, marrying teen's isn't really necessary now
Getting anecdotal here but even though I was horny at 12-14, under no circumstance was I ready for sex at that age

 

[Deleted member 5969]

You're a retard and don't even understand how the term theory is used in the scientific field. I'm not gonna spend even more time in this thread due to some creationist

Classic, a personal attack

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Attractions can still be wrong when if performed cause serious harm. I never said attraction is a choice either. There's a difference between saying you're sexually attracted to minors and realizing it's wrong and can cause serious long term mental harm to a kid if practiced and saying you want to "groom a 12 year old" to watch her fucking grow up

Well tbh I don't intend on going for 12 yos anyway. Considering that this forum is watched by Feds I'll get caught immediately if I try to go below age of consent.

That being said I wasn't even talking about grooming per se I was more talking about just having a damn relationship.

Also I don't see why you had to call it pedo when it's hebe. Sure you think both are wrong but you could have at least been honest about the terminology.

 

[Deleted member 685]

Also, the fact that if it IS performed can cause serious mental health issues going from ptsd to bpd should tell you enough on why it's bad, it's about Ying and yang. You will never see a 12 year old girl go up to an adult and beg to be fucked.

 

[Deleted member 5969]

Well tbh I don't intend on going for 12 yos anyway. Considering that this forum is watched by Feds I'll get caught immediately if I try to go below age of consent.

That being said I wasn't even talking about grooming per se I was more talking about just having a damn relationship.

Also I don't see why you had to call it pefo when it's heve. Sure you think both are wrong but you could have at least been honest about the terminology.

Do you think your attraction to 12 year old girls is natural, moral or both?

 

[goat2x]

Also a valid point, marrying teen's isn't really necessary now
Getting anecdotal here but even though I was horny at 12-14, under no circumstance was I ready for sex at that age

Me too, but looking if you want to look for religion justification for child sex just look into the quran tbh
the bible doesnt say anything about age of consent
Mary was 14 due when she beared a child but like i said the average life expectancy was 35

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Do you think your attraction to 12 year old girls is natural, moral or both?

It's natural and amoral. Attraction isn't a choice.

 

[Deleted member 5969]

Me too, but looking if you want to look for religion justification for child sex just look into the quran tbh
the bible doesnt say anything about age of consent
Mary was 14 due when she beared a child but like i said the average life expectancy was 35

Koran is pagan and the Bible is clear about
1. Lusting after women
2. Causing a innocent child to sin
3. Obeying the laws of the land

 

[Deleted member 685]

Well tbh I don't intend on going for 12 yos anyway. Considering that this forum is watched by Feds I'll get caught immediately if I try to go below age of consent.

That being said I wasn't even talking about grooming per se I was more talking about just having a damn relationship.

Also I don't see why you had to call it pefo when it's heve. Sure you think both are wrong but you could have at least been honest about the terminology.

So you would if you could? That shows enough of how much of a fucked up human being you are. You need help.

You're an extreme minority, when the great majority of performed pedophilia still results in intense emotional disaster. And either way it's extremely wrong to seek a relationship with a girl that doesn't even have a proper concept of a fucking relationship and royalty yet.

And stop being autistic and just say pedo, I don't even see how this part is relevant at all since you obviously understood what I was talking about. Needless to say I still think being a hebophobe or however it's spelled is wrong.

 

[Deleted member 5969]

It's natural and amoral. Attraction isn't a choice.

Pedophilic Disorder - Pedophilic Disorder - Merck Manual Professional Edition

Pedophilic Disorder - Etiology, pathophysiology, symptoms, signs, diagnosis & prognosis from the Merck Manuals - Medical Professional Version.

www.merckmanuals.com

It's a mental disorder. You need help bro.

 

[goat2x]

Koran is pagan and the Bible is clear about
1. Lusting after women
2. Causing a innocent child to sin
3. Obeying the laws of the land

I know,thats why i referred to it like this
if you want to justify your pedophile behaviour look nto the quran

 

[Deleted member 685]

It's natural and amoral. Attraction isn't a choice.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING

You could say attraction to necrophilia isn't a choice, that won't change me and others from being fucking disgusted by it because of how abnormal and sick it is. How are you even using this as an argument. And the natural argument isn't even relevant

 

[Deleted member 5969]

I know,thats why i referred to it like this
if you want to justify your pedophile behaviour look nto the quran

Ohh that makes sense now I was confused
Ye Mohammed married 9 yr old

 

[Deleted member 4612]

So you would if you could? That shows enough of how much of a fucked up human being you are. You need help.

You're an extreme minority, when the great majority of performed pedophilia still results in intense emotional disaster. And either way it's extremely wrong to seek a relationship with a girl that doesn't even have a proper concept of a fucking relationship and royalty yet.

And stop being autistic and just say pedo, I don't even see how this part is relevant at all since you obviously understood what I was talking about. Needless to say I still think being a hebophobe or however it's spelled is wrong.

It's not autistic to call it hebe because biologically speaking she is capable of reproduction. Not that you think that makes it better but that is the difference

 

[Deleted member 5969]

It's not autistic to call it hebe because biologically speaking she is capable of reproduction. Not that you think that makes it better but that is the difference

Pedophilic Disorder - Pedophilic Disorder - Merck Manual Professional Edition

Pedophilic Disorder - Etiology, pathophysiology, symptoms, signs, diagnosis & prognosis from the Merck Manuals - Medical Professional Version.

www.merckmanuals.com

You actually need psychiatric help if you would act on your urges if it was legal.