Why are white men so effiminate?

[Deleted member 140676]

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Don't put "we" . You didn't personally contribute to it in anyway. You are merely attributing someone else's succes to yourself because you both are the same skin color.

holy shit that’s a two piece

White men might be effeminate in their behavior but they aren't effeminate in their physiogamy. Most north European are cave men ogres while niggers and chinks are the ones with infantile skulls

 

[Jason Voorhees]

What your describing is a reality caused by genetics, which cemented epigenetics over thousands of years. Either white people were always more suited for war, conquering, exploration, tactics, etc. or that was a trait gained through the sheer eugenic effect that the devastation of war had on the European continent. Only very recently (post ww2) have wars become uncommon. Less than 90 years ago the entirety of Europe was fighting each other, right after they did it a few decades before. White people have not lost a fighting spirit, it has only been temporarily switched off for the ones who embraced degeneracy, or have become willing puppets for the powers that be.

How is fighting spirit or war tactics something that is genetic and gets passed on like skulls and bones? These are learned traits. Faustian Spirit is literally response to a hyper competitive environment. You don't work when you havr everything handed to you on a silver platter. You work when there's enemy at the gates, people around are dieing of hunger and your family is in danger.

Most Americans/Ethnics are extremely patriotic especially the people from thr south and the third world countries because they had to struggle for years for their independence. Hard times brings people together and creates a sense of unity. On the other hand you have Sweden and other countries that stayed neutral throughout history and have never seen war since the middle ages and we all know how the situation is now.

These things are not genetics. These are traits people develop in response to their environment

National pride does not exclude individual pride, nor did I show any undue pride in my race. I responded when it was attacked with a truth that white people have the most masculine achievement of any. You got butthurt or were trying to play both sides to look unbiased.

Civilizations have fallen and risen for millennia, just because you happen to born during one cycle doesn't mean that generalizes over all of time. The current time period will eventually be forgotten and whatever pride you hold will turn to dust eventually.

 

[Archimedes]

How is fighting spirit or war tactics something that is genetic and gets passed on like skulls and bones? These are learned traits. Faustian Spirit is literally response to a hyper competitive environment. You don't work when you havr everything handed to you on a silver platter. You work when there's enemy at the gates, people around are dieing of hunger and your family is in danger.

Most Americans/Ethnics are extremely patriotic especially the people from thr south and the third world countries because they had to struggle for years for their independence. Hard times brings people together and creates a sense of unity. On the other hand you have Sweden and other countries that stayed neutral throughout history and have never seen war since the middle ages and we all know how the situation is now.

These things are not genetics. These are traits people develop in response to their environment


Civilizations have fallen and risen for millennia, just because you happen to born during one cycle doesn't mean that generalizes over all of time. The current time period will eventually be forgotten and whatever pride you hold will turn to dust eventually.

Literally every minutiae of your behavior is impacted by a variety of genes. Yes being taught tactics isnt genetic but how you process and build on it is. Your ability to recognize when to attack, when to retreat, reading the opposition, etc. is all influenced by aspects of your intelligence.

Again, environment over hundreds of years becomes genetic. Not in the same way the shape of your skull is, but that stuff doesn't go away after one generation.

How does this change the fact that white people have the most masculine achievements in the history of the world? How does this change the fact that white people historically have built the great civilization. The best you can say is that some middle eastern populations kick started civilization quicker than Europeans. Otherwise, we developed it. Just stop coping dalit

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Literally every minutiae of your behavior is impacted by a variety of genes. Yes being taught tactics isnt genetic but how you process and build on it is. Your ability to recognize when to attack, when to retreat, reading the opposition, etc. is all influenced by aspects of your intelligence.

Just because behavior correlates with genetic predispositions doesn't mean it's determined by them. Intelligence, decision-making, emotional regulation all are shaped by early childhood environment, education, nutrition, stress, and social exposure. There are literal studies that back this up. Two people with similar genes can turn out radically different depending on context for this exact reason

Again, environment over hundreds of years becomes genetic. Not in the same way the shape of your skull is, but that stuff doesn't go away after one generation.

Recognizing when to attack or retreat, or how to read opponents, isn't instinct. It's heavily taught, modeled, and trained. Military strategy, sports IQ, or social maneuvering depend more on practice, exposure, and feedback than on raw genetic talent. Not my words but one of "your" great general's words


Also the idea that environment over hundreds of years becomes genetic is incorrect. . These thing take thousands of generations, not just in the short time frame of a few centuries when europeans became dominant. Most behavioral adaptations humans use today use like reading, writing etc are far recent in evolutionary terms to have become genetically ingrained.

How does this change the fact that white people have the most masculine achievements in the history of the world? How does this change the fact that white people historically have built the great civilization. The best you can say is that some middle eastern populations kick started civilization quicker than Europeans. Otherwise, we developed it. Just stop coping dalit

I didn't object to that. It is fact that europeans and Jews have built some of the best countries in the world however you didn't invent calculus as Isaac Newton did, you didn't write Crime and Punishment as Dostoyevsky did, you didn't set a rocket to the Moon and so forth. You are merely attributing someone else intellectual effort to yourself on the basis of race. Ultimately, it's cope. Literally any loser can do this. @666PSL

 

[Archimedes]

Just because behavior correlates with genetic predispositions doesn't mean it's determined by them. Intelligence, decision-making, emotional regulation all are shaped by early childhood environment, education, nutrition, stress, and social exposure. There are literal studies that back this up. Two people with similar genes can turn out radically different depending on context for this exact reason

Again, as I explained, determination is not needed. Only correlation. If the experience shapes the base, and I share the base. I can say that I have part of what make the final result. Its rudimentary logic.

Also, I don't at all agree with the environment cope. Biological twins turn out basically identical, maybe with the most extreme environments differences will arise, but we also see that once you're able to control your environment it subsequently starts mattering much less for obvious reasons.

Obviously race itself doesn't determine genes and the person you become but ultimately you share a gene pool with your race.

Recognizing when to attack or retreat, or how to read opponents, isn't instinct. It's heavily taught, modeled, and trained. Military strategy, sports IQ, or social maneuvering depend more on practice, exposure, and feedback than on raw genetic talent. Not my words but one of "your" great general's words


Also the idea that environment over hundreds of years becomes genetic is incorrect. . These thing take thousands of generations, not just in the short time frame of a few centuries when europeans became dominant. Most behavioral adaptations humans use today use like reading, writing etc are far recent in evolutionary terms to have become genetically ingrained.

It is influenced by genetics... Are you reading what I am saying? Two people can learn the same tactics only for one to extrapolate far more and create more function out of what they were taught. One person might ruminate and simulate what they were taught and turn it into actual experience in their mind. Genetics shape how you shape information. This is bluepilled cope and its disgusting.

This is not the consensus among any educated people. Eugenics effects or epigenetics can cause large changes in a few generations. The common example is that stress is passed down epigentically. If your parents experienced extreme stress, you will be much more likely to be stressed. Learning, memory, agreeableness, cooperation, agression, risk-taking are all also effects by epigenetics. Constant war and innovation will lend itself to a certain type of person.

I didn't object to that. It is fact that europeans and Jews have built some of the best countries in the world however you didn't invent calculus as Isaac Newton did, you didn't write Crime and Punishment as Dostoyevsky did, you didn't set a rocket to the Moon and so forth. You are merely attributing someone else intellectual effort to yourself on the basis of race. Ultimately, it's cope. Literally any loser can do this

So you agreed you just want to bitch and moan about white people being prideful.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Again, as I explained, determination is not needed. Only correlation. If the experience shapes the base, and I share the base. I can say that I have part of what make the final result. Its rudimentary logic.

Correlation=/=Causation. Saying "if I share the base I share the outcome" is peevish. Just because there's a statistical correlation between genes and behavior doesn't mean any one person's outcome can be deduced from that.. You don't "share the outcome" just because you share the genetics of a group

Also, I don't at all agree with the environment cope. Biological twins turn out basically identical, maybe with the most extreme environments differences will arise, but we also see that once you're able to control your environment it subsequently starts mattering much less for obvious reasons.

That is false. Even with nearly identical DNA, twin studies consistently show divergence in personality, values, political beliefs, mental health, etc., especially as they age and have different life experiences

The Minnesota Twin Study-one of the most famous-found about 50% of personality is heritable. That means half of who you are is shaped by non-genetic factors.

Obviously race itself doesn't determine genes and the person you become but ultimately you share a gene pool with your race.

Yes people from the same ancestral background share genetic similarities but variation within groups is greater than between groups This is one of the most basic principle in population genetics. Generalizing complex cognitive or behavioral traits across racial lines is pseudoscience.

It is influenced by genetics... Are you reading what I am saying? Two people can learn the same tactics only for one to extrapolate far more and create more function out of what they were taught. One person might ruminate and simulate what they were taught and turn it into actual experience in their mind. Genetics shape how you shape information. This is bluepilled cope and its disgusting.

Genes don't "shape how you shape information" in a vacuum. You're conflating genetic potential with real ability. Two people might process information differently yes but that's due to an interaction of their brain structure (partially genetic) and the experiences they've had. A kid with great genetics and no stimulation falls behind a kid with average genetics and great mentorship. This is again backed by science

This is not the consensus among any educated people. Eugenics effects or epigenetics can cause large changes in a few generations. The common example is that stress is passed down epigentically. If your parents experienced extreme stress, you will be much more likely to be stressed. Learning, memory, agreeableness, cooperation, agression, risk-taking are all also effects by epigenetics. Constant war and innovation will lend itself to a certain type of person.

Epigenetic changes like stress response or metabolism do get passed on but they are not permanent and don't change your core DNA.

They're reversible, plastic, and context dependent. Yes, a parent's trauma can affect a child's biology-but that doesn't mean an entire society genetically adapts to war or innovation in 2-3 generations. Epigenetics is also boderline pseudoscience

>So you agreed you just want to bitch and moan about white people being prideful.

No I am just against bullshit and hyperbole. Ive heard these arguments a 100 times before on 4chan. The same old WN drivel.

 

[superpsycho]

soy

 

[Archimedes]

Correlation=/=Causation. Saying "if I share the base, I share the outcome

No shit retard, luckily I didn't say that. Do you read? Is it hard for you? Is this the illustrious shitskin IQ in display.

I share a part of what made the final result, which is to say I share an aspect of them that was apart of why they were successful. Demonstrate whats illogical about having pride about that. I do not share the result, I share the base that is part of the result.

That's false. Even with nearly identical DNA, twin studies consistently show divergence in personality, values, political beliefs, mental health, etc., especially as they age and have different life experiences.

Heritability estimates are consistently estimated to be lower than what they are discovered to be. Also I'm looking at other sources that claim that the same study estimated behavior to be nearly 70%.

Regardless, if you are similar to someone in everyway 50% that's extremely similar. If you look at life markers, they almost always have similar educational attainment, relationship / marriage patterns, levels of happiness, health outcomes. If every decision you make is influenced by your exactly identical genetics, then obviously over time you will tend towards the same trajectory. Its delusional to deny this.

Yes, people from the same ancestral background share genetic similarities, but variation within groups is greater than between groups. This is one of the most basic principle in population genetics. Generalizing complex cognitive or behavioral traits across racial lines is pseudoscience.

Huge institutional bias against race realism obviously lol. This is the most pseudointellectual shit ever. You genuinely believe that race realism would be considered honestly in this climate?

There being variation within groups does not stop there from significant differences between groups. Youre literally doing Lewontin's fallacy. The differences between groups are more systematic so if you look at many genetic markers at once you'll be able to mark significant differences between populations. You keep just doing the lowest level analysis of a stat:

1) Bro twins are only 50% (lowball) similar in every way, not realizing that's extremely similar.

2) Now this, a literal well known misinterpretation of that fact.

Genes don't "shape how you shape information" in a vacuum. You're conflating genetic potential with actualized ability. Two people might process information differently, yes but that's due to an interaction of their brain structure (partially genetic) and the experiences they've had. A kid with great genetics and no stimulation falls behind a kid with average genetics and great mentorship. This is again backed by science

It really isn't backed by anything. We know that people regress to the mean as they age and are no linger in a state of constant learning forcing their brain to perform at a level it wouldn't normally perform at. The environment has a pronounced impact on intelligence and behavior during youth, as soon as people can control their environment which will be in accordance with their genetics, it naturally stops.

They're reversible, plastic, and context dependent. Yes, a parent's trauma can affect a child's biology-but that doesn't mean an entire society genetically adapts to war or innovation in 2-3 generations. Epigenetics is also boderline pseudoscience

You've been using epigenetics in your whole argument. If the environment isn't changing gene expression, how does it change your behavior? Is your behavior magic, is it your soul that determines it (I'm assuming your an atheist, I actually do believe in a soul)? The whole concept of determinism is that you can track cause and effect down to a singular cause everything then can be said to deterministically occur as a result. That first cause in a humans life has to be genetic, because even the environments effect on you is influenced by your genetics.

 

[DarkTriadBeliever]

Many Nordics have this type you must not had met many. It’s insane how common it is amoungst them esp the old ones around 40+

They even have the head meat it’s werid


That head meat shit always fascinated me I wanna touch it man I wanna touch it but it also looks like it gives the person super strong jaw strength so don’t let him bite you

average white I've seen legit has no Jaw, there's a reason for the increase in incels

at least someone who's black has prognathism