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In this thread, you can read about why these methods are not worth it or work at all and mostly about how much of a risk they pose to your body.
These are mostly obvious if you have more than two working braincells, but I KNOW that there are some retards out there who still do these. If you catch yourself doing any of these stated below, please read said section and come to a conclusion to stop doing it.
I tried my best doing research and wording properly, but if anybody has an argument/correction, or just wants to add anything, feel free to reply to the thread.
Bonesmashing
First of all, bonesmashing hasn't been scientifically proven, nor disproven. This does NOT mean that it actually works.
Bonesmashing's biggest argument is that if you cause damage to a certain bone, it will cause them to have microfractures which will regenarate, making the bone grow back stronger, giving you a small amount of forward growth in the process.
This arguement is taken from martial artists who train their FISTS to make them stronger. It doesn't take a nuclear scientist to figure out that your knuckles are not the same as your bones in your skull.
You CANNOT change the bones in your skull by grabbing a hammer (or any other object) and hitting them for hours each day. If you ever think about bonesmashing, just because it's way cheaper than surgery, also take into account the surgeries you'll have to get after to fix all the damage you've done to yourself.
Bonesmashing also poses great risks:
Smashing around your orbital ridge can cause orbital fractures, which can cause several vision problems, nerve damage and muscle entrapment.
-Vision problems: Diplopia, blurred vision, reduced eye movement, enophthalmos and permanent visual damage.
-Nerve damage: Can cause numbness, tingling, loss of sensation and shooting pain in the cheek, upper lip and upper teeth. These are caused by damage to the infraorbital nerve.
-Muscle entrapment: You can actually break bones with bonesmashing (who would've thought) and the muscles around your eye can get trapped into those broken bones, leading to inability to look up and down, severe pain when moving your eye and nausea due to your eye movement being linked to balance centers.
Smashing your temples is one of the riskiest. (I don't even know why somebody would want to smash their temples)
-You can damage your middle meningeal artery, which can cause life threathening brain bleed (epidural hematoma). This is a condition when too much blood accumulates between the skull and the brain's most outer protective layer, the dura mater.
-Can cause fractures to the temple itself, due to it being especially thin.
-You can also count on hearing problems after smashing your temple, because if you take a good look at your skull, it's close to your ear canal. Put two and two together and you're deaf.
-Smashing the temple can also cause jaw joint problems, alongside with nerve damage, which will cause your face to be weak, most likely changing your appearance for the worse.
Zygo smashing: Your zygomatic bone protects important nerves and supports your eye socket.
-One of the biggest risks with smashing your zygomatic that you bonesmashers care about is facial assymetry. You can easily fracture your zygomatic, which means you'll either have to get surgery to fix it, or fracture the bone on the other side of your face as well, which will be highly unlikely to be fractured the exact same way as your other side.
-You can cause damage to the infraorbital, which I already wrote down what it can lead to.
-Muscles attach to your zygomatic: Zygomaticus major and minor, levator labii superioris, and partially, your orbicularis oculi and masseter. So if you smash it hard enough, you can cause damage to those muscles as well and have a difficult time chewing or speaking in general (Either temporarily or permanently).
-If your bones collapse inward, you can achieve a sunken cheek appearance, which definietly won't ascend you.
-Smashing your zygomatic can also cause orbital fractures, which I already talked about earlier.
The nasal bridge can be very easily injured, due to it being really thin.
-Fracturing your nasal bone can lead to a permanent crooked nose.
-Can cause breathing problems if you manage to deviate your septum.
-Can lead to sinus infections and nasal obstruction, that requires surgery to fix.
I didn't cover all of the risks of boneshmashing, but if you still bonesmash after reading this, that's on you.
Bonepushing and thumbpulling
If you do any of these, you probably bonesmash as well and you caused enough damage to your brain to think that these actually work.
-Bonepushing
You're not "pushing" bones, you're just applying pressure to them for a short period of time. This won't cause your bones to magically shift in your skull, the most you can get out of this is fracturing or even breaking the bones if the pressure is high enough on them.
You cannot reshape adult bones by pressuring them externally. Once puberty finished progressing, your facial bones have finished developing, which means that they hardened already and they are surrounded by dense connective tissue.
The external pressure can only do something if it's high enough to cause fractures, "reshaping" your bones in a non wanted way.
You cannot replicate surgical tools just by poking your bones for an hour.
"But look at me! My zygos definietly moved!" No, it didn't. You probably applied too much pressure for an extended period of time, causing your soft tissue to be irritated, and lymph fluid to build up, making your face swollen. This may seem like that you actually achieved something, but the swelling looks hideous, and will go down after a few weeks, taking you back to square one.
-Thumbpulling
This is almost the same as bonepushing. You cannot widen your palet without surgery.
You might feel something when doing this, but that is just soft tissue moving around in the roof of your mouth, and the most you can achieve with this is getting crooked teeth.
You can't replicate expanders, which apply hundreds of grams of pressure 24/7 with your thumbs in 15 minutes.
You're not doing anything productive with this, so don't even start doing it if you didn't yet.
Also poses several risks:
-Gum recession: You're not just pushing your palete, you're applying pressure to your maxilla, that can transmit the pressure onto your tooth roots, gum tissue attached to those teeth and your periodontal ligament.
-You can also irritate your nasopalatine nerve, leading to numbness and tingling in the palate and front teeth and pain when touching the roof of your mouth. This can sometimes last for weeks or months.
-Your teeth are anchored in the alveolar bone, via the PDL, which distributes and absorbs forces from chewing. Repeated unnaturral force to the PDL can stretch or even damage it, weaking the attachment of your teeth, making them feel loose and contribute to gum recession.
-Repeated strong pressure to the palet can lead to you crushing tiny blood vessels in the tissue. This can cause bleeding under the tissue, leading to visible bruising. You obviously damaged your palet, so you can expect pain and irritation in the area. A temporary swelling can also be expected, which proves that you did NOT move the bone around at all.
-It might seem unlikely, but you can also cause infections. Trauma to the palete can cause micro tears in the mucosa (This is the area people often put pressure onto while thumbpulling). Your saliva contains bacteria, and the micro tears allow them to enter deeper tissues, leading to localized infections, burning sensations of your gums or palatal tissue and sometimes (in more severe cases) the infection can spread to your bones, causing osteomyelitis (This is rare though, but I still recommend avoiding thumbpulling).
These are mostly obvious if you have more than two working braincells, but I KNOW that there are some retards out there who still do these. If you catch yourself doing any of these stated below, please read said section and come to a conclusion to stop doing it.
I tried my best doing research and wording properly, but if anybody has an argument/correction, or just wants to add anything, feel free to reply to the thread.
Bonesmashing
First of all, bonesmashing hasn't been scientifically proven, nor disproven. This does NOT mean that it actually works.
Bonesmashing's biggest argument is that if you cause damage to a certain bone, it will cause them to have microfractures which will regenarate, making the bone grow back stronger, giving you a small amount of forward growth in the process.
This arguement is taken from martial artists who train their FISTS to make them stronger. It doesn't take a nuclear scientist to figure out that your knuckles are not the same as your bones in your skull.
You CANNOT change the bones in your skull by grabbing a hammer (or any other object) and hitting them for hours each day. If you ever think about bonesmashing, just because it's way cheaper than surgery, also take into account the surgeries you'll have to get after to fix all the damage you've done to yourself.
Bonesmashing also poses great risks:
Smashing around your orbital ridge can cause orbital fractures, which can cause several vision problems, nerve damage and muscle entrapment.
-Vision problems: Diplopia, blurred vision, reduced eye movement, enophthalmos and permanent visual damage.
-Nerve damage: Can cause numbness, tingling, loss of sensation and shooting pain in the cheek, upper lip and upper teeth. These are caused by damage to the infraorbital nerve.
-Muscle entrapment: You can actually break bones with bonesmashing (who would've thought) and the muscles around your eye can get trapped into those broken bones, leading to inability to look up and down, severe pain when moving your eye and nausea due to your eye movement being linked to balance centers.
Smashing your temples is one of the riskiest. (I don't even know why somebody would want to smash their temples)
-You can damage your middle meningeal artery, which can cause life threathening brain bleed (epidural hematoma). This is a condition when too much blood accumulates between the skull and the brain's most outer protective layer, the dura mater.
-Can cause fractures to the temple itself, due to it being especially thin.
-You can also count on hearing problems after smashing your temple, because if you take a good look at your skull, it's close to your ear canal. Put two and two together and you're deaf.
-Smashing the temple can also cause jaw joint problems, alongside with nerve damage, which will cause your face to be weak, most likely changing your appearance for the worse.
Zygo smashing: Your zygomatic bone protects important nerves and supports your eye socket.
-One of the biggest risks with smashing your zygomatic that you bonesmashers care about is facial assymetry. You can easily fracture your zygomatic, which means you'll either have to get surgery to fix it, or fracture the bone on the other side of your face as well, which will be highly unlikely to be fractured the exact same way as your other side.
-You can cause damage to the infraorbital, which I already wrote down what it can lead to.
-Muscles attach to your zygomatic: Zygomaticus major and minor, levator labii superioris, and partially, your orbicularis oculi and masseter. So if you smash it hard enough, you can cause damage to those muscles as well and have a difficult time chewing or speaking in general (Either temporarily or permanently).
-If your bones collapse inward, you can achieve a sunken cheek appearance, which definietly won't ascend you.
-Smashing your zygomatic can also cause orbital fractures, which I already talked about earlier.
The nasal bridge can be very easily injured, due to it being really thin.
-Fracturing your nasal bone can lead to a permanent crooked nose.
-Can cause breathing problems if you manage to deviate your septum.
-Can lead to sinus infections and nasal obstruction, that requires surgery to fix.
I didn't cover all of the risks of boneshmashing, but if you still bonesmash after reading this, that's on you.
Bonepushing and thumbpulling
If you do any of these, you probably bonesmash as well and you caused enough damage to your brain to think that these actually work.
-Bonepushing
You're not "pushing" bones, you're just applying pressure to them for a short period of time. This won't cause your bones to magically shift in your skull, the most you can get out of this is fracturing or even breaking the bones if the pressure is high enough on them.
You cannot reshape adult bones by pressuring them externally. Once puberty finished progressing, your facial bones have finished developing, which means that they hardened already and they are surrounded by dense connective tissue.
The external pressure can only do something if it's high enough to cause fractures, "reshaping" your bones in a non wanted way.
You cannot replicate surgical tools just by poking your bones for an hour.
"But look at me! My zygos definietly moved!" No, it didn't. You probably applied too much pressure for an extended period of time, causing your soft tissue to be irritated, and lymph fluid to build up, making your face swollen. This may seem like that you actually achieved something, but the swelling looks hideous, and will go down after a few weeks, taking you back to square one.
-Thumbpulling
This is almost the same as bonepushing. You cannot widen your palet without surgery.
You might feel something when doing this, but that is just soft tissue moving around in the roof of your mouth, and the most you can achieve with this is getting crooked teeth.
You can't replicate expanders, which apply hundreds of grams of pressure 24/7 with your thumbs in 15 minutes.
You're not doing anything productive with this, so don't even start doing it if you didn't yet.
Also poses several risks:
-Gum recession: You're not just pushing your palete, you're applying pressure to your maxilla, that can transmit the pressure onto your tooth roots, gum tissue attached to those teeth and your periodontal ligament.
-You can also irritate your nasopalatine nerve, leading to numbness and tingling in the palate and front teeth and pain when touching the roof of your mouth. This can sometimes last for weeks or months.
-Your teeth are anchored in the alveolar bone, via the PDL, which distributes and absorbs forces from chewing. Repeated unnaturral force to the PDL can stretch or even damage it, weaking the attachment of your teeth, making them feel loose and contribute to gum recession.
-Repeated strong pressure to the palet can lead to you crushing tiny blood vessels in the tissue. This can cause bleeding under the tissue, leading to visible bruising. You obviously damaged your palet, so you can expect pain and irritation in the area. A temporary swelling can also be expected, which proves that you did NOT move the bone around at all.
-It might seem unlikely, but you can also cause infections. Trauma to the palete can cause micro tears in the mucosa (This is the area people often put pressure onto while thumbpulling). Your saliva contains bacteria, and the micro tears allow them to enter deeper tissues, leading to localized infections, burning sensations of your gums or palatal tissue and sometimes (in more severe cases) the infection can spread to your bones, causing osteomyelitis (This is rare though, but I still recommend avoiding thumbpulling).
