Why BP doesn't exist, and u must be retarted to believe in it (part 2)

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Why BP doesn't exist, and u must be retarted to believe in it (part 2)

I decided to make a part two of this after many people were disagreeing. I'm not sure if explaining things with further detail will help open their eyes a bit, but here's further research, factual information, and non-objective evidence that Black Pill does not exist.

What is the definition of Black Pill?

To understand if Black Pill exists in the first place, we need to identify what it really is and what its definition is.

“Black Pill is an ideology, originating from incel online communities, that holds that physical appearance, specifically facial structure, height, and overall physical appearance, are the primary factors that determine someone's value or worth.”

Pretty much, Black Pill means that looks are literally everything and fully determine your value and worth as a human being.

IF Black Pill's definition meant “Looks are everything when it comes to dating and first impressions”, THEN, Black Pill would be considered to be true, but that is not Black Pill's definition.

What Looks are good for

Looks are incredibly important, but they are not EVERYTHING like how black pill says. They determine your romantic and social life as well as first impressions. These are considerably big parts of life, but they are not EVERYTHING.

If someone had the mindset where all they wanted to do was hook up with girls, then it makes sense why they would believe in Black Pill. However, if ur only interest is in being able to pull any girl you want while getting a good sense of “popularity” for it, makes HUGE npc as you are letting your path be chosen in life by other people instead of wanting to decide what YOU want to do with your life.

Looksmaxxing VS Black Pill

Looks maxxing looks


One thing to also discuss is what Looksmaxxing and Black Pill both mean and why they are almost completely different.

Looksmaxxing is the act of personal improvement to try and make yourself more attractive; whether it's just working out or getting a full on jaw surgery, both are considered some form of looksmaxxing. Looksmaxxing is the idea that you can improve how you look.

Once again, Black pill is the idea that it's pretty much already over, and that you have no worth if ur like an MTN. Many people might confuse these because people who are Black Pilled will want to learn and do a TON of looksmaxxing, as their belief is that their looks are what define them and are the only thing that matters. Although occasionally, most people will never reach HTN in their life, ever. Therefore, they get this depressing sense of worthlessness and that their life is “over”.

Black Pill when it comes to looking good not for others, but for yourself.

One thing I experienced a lot which made me depressed was not wanting appreciation from others for looking good, but appreciation for myself. I think this is one of the most common reasons why people believe in black pill. I have this giant mirror in my room and am constantly reminded about how I look, and that I always want to look better, not for anyone else but myself, as it's a sense of confidence and self love; however, at the end of the day, for some people, no matter what you do, you will never reach HTN. Notice how I said for SOME people, there are so many LTNs who have reached HTN, so it's not always completely over. No matter how much shit you research about the anatomy of the face, most of the time the only way to actually make big improvements is through surgery, which is expensive and not what most people can afford.

Mental Health

Bruh


This part is gonna make so many black pilled dumb asses mad, but let's just cover the main motive of this before we get into this with this idea on “How to enjoy life as much as possible”.

When it comes down to it, everyone alive now was born, whether they liked it or not. Doesn't matter if they never wanted to be; they were. You might compare yourself to someone having insane genes and being a HTN or Chad, but there are some Sub 5 out there wishing they looked as good as you. Overall, your genes and your attractiveness are fully luck-based; however, it is not the main source of luck that determines your "happiness".

Why mental health is important MORE than looks.

As I said, it's a source of luck that determines your looks, but you are only given ONE shot at life, you're not gonna die and then reincarnate as some chad. Do you not think that if you're only given one shot, you may as well enjoy it to the best you can? The chances of you being born are 1 in 400 trillion, this is surface level knowledge. Are you really going to waste your life away because ur not an HTN? One way to enjoy your super rare life that you only get once is to enjoy it. You're not going to enjoy it if you obsess over how others look and how chopped you are.

This is obviously well known logical knowledge, and if you disagree, your logic skills must be shit, but there are definitely millions of people who lived better lives than those who were more attractive than them.

Yes, you're right, being confident and looking attractive and being a chad obviously does help increase your mental health, but too much confidence can lead to narcissism, which is only what NPCS believe in. Yes, looking good can increase your mental health, but if the idea is to enjoy your one shot at life as much as possible, there are still other ways to be mentally healthy.

Ways to increase Mental health.

Here's a bunch of ways to increase your mental health and overall enjoyment in life.

General
  • Reducing isolation
  • Your hobbies; could be playing Fortnite with mates, playing a sport, or even a solo hobby like drawing.
Physical
  • Regular Exercise
  • Good Sleep consistency
  • Good, healthy nutrition
Hypergamy

Hypergamy is real, no doubt about it, but it isn't real everywhere around the world. Obviously, it is largest in America, but in countries that are less on social media, it doesn't even exist. I live in New Zealand, and I'm going to tell you there are hypergamous GUYS. The amount of MTN guys I have seen with HTBs is insane.

Obviously, just cos in New Zealand it isn't that big of a deal doesn't mean it's not that big of a deal in America, that is not what I was trying to say at all. What I'm trying to say is that it does exist, but it should not be generalised to ALL human relationships. So if you live in America, yeah, it might be larger, but it does not exist for EVERY woman who walks the earth. What I'm trying to say is if u live in some more niche country that sort of has lower social media intake, blaming u not being able to pull on hypergamy is stupid, I mean, sure it COULD be the reason, but very unlikely.

Conclusion

Overall, looks define massive concepts of life, mainly when it comes to dating, social popularity, and first impressions. BUT, they are not “everything”. You can still live a good life, maybe even better than someone who mogs you, if you just do everything right and genuinely enjoy it.

Also, to those little low IQ retards who didn't read the whole thing and are just like “loyal to the pill” and make comments saying IM the retarted one, I couldn't give two shits bro keep ur cortisol spiked. THE ONLY WAY you could make believe that Looks really are the most important thing in life is for u to make ur own post like this with full evidence explaining why black pill is real and that looks truly are everything.

Also, this is not a blue pilled post, this is a grey, if u think it's blue ur dumb af.

True
 
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The black pill isn't just about looks retard, its everything. Saying it doesn't exist is extremely retarded
 
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The black pill isn't just about looks retard, its everything. Saying it doesn't exist is extremely retarded
Agreed, he’s trying to go against general beliefs just to seem more original and high iq
 
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The black pill isn't just about looks retard, its everything. Saying it doesn't exist is extremely retarded
Cool but I can tell you’re a broke bum, looking for any gig he can get to make your pretty pennies

Let me help you out, Understudy.live can automate your job search so you don’t think about it and land you a job in days, you’re welcome
 
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Cool but I can tell you’re a broke bum, looking for any gig he can get to make your pretty pennies

Let me help you out, Understudy.live can automate your job search so you don’t think about it and land you a job in days, you’re welcome
jfl
 
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Where's the dislike button?
 
The black pill isn't just about looks retard, its everything. Saying it doesn't exist is extremely retarded
Explain it how it can be everything. You clearly did not read the fucking post, your saying that when it comes to wether your going to trip on the ground while walking to school depends on how hot you are? What if your some chad who dies in a war. You think the nazis were like: Nah this guys an actual chad jew bro we cant gas this guy"
 
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is this purely ragebait, what was the purpose of posting this?
 
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Explain it how it can be everything. You clearly did not read the fucking post
where your born, your iq, parents, inhib, disabilities, mental health, illnesses and so on, you're a fucking retard bro
 
Why BP doesn't exist, and u must be retarted to believe in it (part 2)

I decided to make a part two of this after many people were disagreeing. I'm not sure if explaining things with further detail will help open their eyes a bit, but here's further research, factual information, and non-objective evidence that Black Pill does not exist.

What is the definition of Black Pill?

To understand if Black Pill exists in the first place, we need to identify what it really is and what its definition is.

“Black Pill is an ideology, originating from incel online communities, that holds that physical appearance, specifically facial structure, height, and overall physical appearance, are the primary factors that determine someone's value or worth.”

Pretty much, Black Pill means that looks are literally everything and fully determine your value and worth as a human being.

IF Black Pill's definition meant “Looks are everything when it comes to dating and first impressions”, THEN, Black Pill would be considered to be true, but that is not Black Pill's definition.

What Looks are good for

Looks are incredibly important, but they are not EVERYTHING like how black pill says. They determine your romantic and social life as well as first impressions. These are considerably big parts of life, but they are not EVERYTHING.

If someone had the mindset where all they wanted to do was hook up with girls, then it makes sense why they would believe in Black Pill. However, if ur only interest is in being able to pull any girl you want while getting a good sense of “popularity” for it, makes HUGE npc as you are letting your path be chosen in life by other people instead of wanting to decide what YOU want to do with your life.

Looksmaxxing VS Black Pill

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One thing to also discuss is what Looksmaxxing and Black Pill both mean and why they are almost completely different.

Looksmaxxing is the act of personal improvement to try and make yourself more attractive; whether it's just working out or getting a full on jaw surgery, both are considered some form of looksmaxxing. Looksmaxxing is the idea that you can improve how you look.

Once again, Black pill is the idea that it's pretty much already over, and that you have no worth if ur like an MTN. Many people might confuse these because people who are Black Pilled will want to learn and do a TON of looksmaxxing, as their belief is that their looks are what define them and are the only thing that matters. Although occasionally, most people will never reach HTN in their life, ever. Therefore, they get this depressing sense of worthlessness and that their life is “over”.

Black Pill when it comes to looking good not for others, but for yourself.

One thing I experienced a lot which made me depressed was not wanting appreciation from others for looking good, but appreciation for myself. I think this is one of the most common reasons why people believe in black pill. I have this giant mirror in my room and am constantly reminded about how I look, and that I always want to look better, not for anyone else but myself, as it's a sense of confidence and self love; however, at the end of the day, for some people, no matter what you do, you will never reach HTN. Notice how I said for SOME people, there are so many LTNs who have reached HTN, so it's not always completely over. No matter how much shit you research about the anatomy of the face, most of the time the only way to actually make big improvements is through surgery, which is expensive and not what most people can afford.

Mental Health

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This part is gonna make so many black pilled dumb asses mad, but let's just cover the main motive of this before we get into this with this idea on “How to enjoy life as much as possible”.

When it comes down to it, everyone alive now was born, whether they liked it or not. Doesn't matter if they never wanted to be; they were. You might compare yourself to someone having insane genes and being a HTN or Chad, but there are some Sub 5 out there wishing they looked as good as you. Overall, your genes and your attractiveness are fully luck-based; however, it is not the main source of luck that determines your "happiness".

Why mental health is important MORE than looks.

As I said, it's a source of luck that determines your looks, but you are only given ONE shot at life, you're not gonna die and then reincarnate as some chad. Do you not think that if you're only given one shot, you may as well enjoy it to the best you can? The chances of you being born are 1 in 400 trillion, this is surface level knowledge. Are you really going to waste your life away because ur not an HTN? One way to enjoy your super rare life that you only get once is to enjoy it. You're not going to enjoy it if you obsess over how others look and how chopped you are.

This is obviously well known logical knowledge, and if you disagree, your logic skills must be shit, but there are definitely millions of people who lived better lives than those who were more attractive than them.

Yes, you're right, being confident and looking attractive and being a chad obviously does help increase your mental health, but too much confidence can lead to narcissism, which is only what NPCS believe in. Yes, looking good can increase your mental health, but if the idea is to enjoy your one shot at life as much as possible, there are still other ways to be mentally healthy.

Ways to increase Mental health.

Here's a bunch of ways to increase your mental health and overall enjoyment in life.

General
  • Reducing isolation
  • Your hobbies; could be playing Fortnite with mates, playing a sport, or even a solo hobby like drawing.
Physical
  • Regular Exercise
  • Good Sleep consistency
  • Good, healthy nutrition
Hypergamy

Hypergamy is real, no doubt about it, but it isn't real everywhere around the world. Obviously, it is largest in America, but in countries that are less on social media, it doesn't even exist. I live in New Zealand, and I'm going to tell you there are hypergamous GUYS. The amount of MTN guys I have seen with HTBs is insane.

Obviously, just cos in New Zealand it isn't that big of a deal doesn't mean it's not that big of a deal in America, that is not what I was trying to say at all. What I'm trying to say is that it does exist, but it should not be generalised to ALL human relationships. So if you live in America, yeah, it might be larger, but it does not exist for EVERY woman who walks the earth. What I'm trying to say is if u live in some more niche country that sort of has lower social media intake, blaming u not being able to pull on hypergamy is stupid, I mean, sure it COULD be the reason, but very unlikely.

Conclusion

Overall, looks define massive concepts of life, mainly when it comes to dating, social popularity, and first impressions. BUT, they are not “everything”. You can still live a good life, maybe even better than someone who mogs you, if you just do everything right and genuinely enjoy it.

Also, to those little low IQ retards who didn't read the whole thing and are just like “loyal to the pill” and make comments saying IM the retarted one, I couldn't give two shits bro keep ur cortisol spiked. THE ONLY WAY you could make believe that Looks really are the most important thing in life is for u to make ur own post like this with full evidence explaining why black pill is real and that looks truly are everything.

Also, this is not a blue pilled post, this is a grey, if u think it's blue ur dumb af.

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Theu don't determine your romantic and social life. They can, but if so that's your fault.

This is why someone like @FiendFiend might very well "mog" or look more attractive than me, but girls will still find me way more attractive and be more enamored with me at the end of the day.
 
“Black Pill is an ideology, originating from incel online communities, that holds that physical appearance, specifically facial structure, height, and overall physical appearance, are the primary factors that determine someone's value or worth.”
Clown. That is not what the BP says. That sounds like a pop culture caricature of bp/inceldom (evil misogynistic eugenicist incel)

The blackpill says your genetic quality (i.e HOW YOU LOOK, your indicators of health) is the primary factor that determines someones mate value or dating success. And that is obviously true; I can’t be disgusted by your face if we are to work
 
Clown. That is not what the BP says. That sounds like a pop culture caricature of bp/inceldom (evil misogynistic eugenicist incel)

The blackpill says your genetic quality (i.e HOW YOU LOOK, your indicators of health) is the primary factor that determines someones mate value or dating success. And that is obviously true; I can’t be disgusted by your face if we are to work
Ok well many people beleive its the key factor of your life, i was explaining to them that is isnt.
 
where your born, your iq, parents, inhib, disabilities, mental health, illnesses and so on, you're a fucking retard bro
yeah just dont answer my question cos u dont know how an debate works dumb fuck.
 
Ok well many people beleive its the key factor of your life, i was explaining to them that is isnt.
Is your claim: looks aren’t everything? Then I agree. Is it Looks aren’t key? That is false LOOKS ARE KEY. Something can be key while not being everything. E.x.: If you want a ltr it is key you have enough resources but it’s not everything
 
Is your claim: looks aren’t everything? Then I agree. Is it Looks aren’t key? That is false LOOKS ARE KEY. Something can be key while not being everything. E.x.: If you want a ltr it is key you have enough resources but it’s not everything
Yes, that is my claim. As written in the post Looks are very important but they are not everything.
 
yes i did you're just a bitch
hey bro, its ok, i know uve like gotten used to the idea that looks are everything so like ur justified to defend it, but dw bro, their not. People really be disagreeing and saying im retarted or stupid without any actual evidence that im wrong.
 
Yes, that is my claim. As written in the post Looks are very important but they are not everything.
Then we agree twin 🤝
You still got the definition of BP wrong.
 
Then we agree twin 🤝
You still got the definition of BP wrong.
im aware of that but many people believe that that is the actual definition of BP, as I quoted in the text that if BP meant that it was Super important (like a KEY), then it would be true, but if we are talking about the definition where it means EVERYTHING, then its wrong.
 
im aware of that but many people believe that that is the actual definition of BP, as I quoted in the text that if BP meant that it was Super important (like a KEY), then it would be true, but if we are talking about the definition where it means EVERYTHING, then its wrong.
Looks are EVERYTHING for raw burning genuine desire (physical attractiveness) but your worth/value as a human is not all down to looks. Everyone has some basic level of value regardless of how they may look
 
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“Black Pill is an ideology, originating from incel online communities, that holds that physical appearance, specifically facial structure, height, and overall physical appearance, are the primary factors that determine someone's value or worth.”

Pretty much, Black Pill means that looks are literally everything and fully determine your value and worth as a human being.
hey bro, its ok, i know uve like gotten used to the idea that looks are everything so like ur justified to defend it, but dw bro, their not. People really be disagreeing and saying im retarted or stupid without any actual evidence that im wrong.
"primary factors" -> "looks are literally everything" you already contradict yourself, in your inaccurate description of blackpill and give an immediate strawman. I don't think that looks "fully determine" my value and worth, or anyone's value or worth, but they do determine your percieved value and worth in society.
This is obviously well known logical knowledge, and if you disagree, your logic skills must be shit, but there are definitely millions of people who lived better lives than those who were more attractive than them.
Yes, you're right, being confident and looking attractive and being a chad obviously does help increase your mental health
  • Reducing isolation
  • Your hobbies; could be playing Fortnite with mates, playing a sport, or even a solo hobby like drawing.
Being confident and attractive will increase your mental health not just because of self-confidence but because people will treat you better, subconsciously people will feel as if you are kinder, this can boost your personal and percieved confidence. You have 2 examples of things you can do for mental health and improve quality of life, and those things are much easier to do as an HTN than as an LTN. The best way to reduce isolation and make hobbies (especially ones with companions) is if you look good, nobody wants to be friends with the sub-5. Also you come out with an ad hominem again "if you disagree, your logic skills must be shit" so that you have a way to discredit any disagreement.
You can still live a good life, maybe even better than someone who mogs you, if you just do everything right and genuinely enjoy it.

Also, to those little low IQ retards who didn't read the whole thing and are just like “loyal to the pill” and make comments saying IM the retarted one, I couldn't give two shits bro keep ur cortisol spiked. THE ONLY WAY you could make believe that Looks really are the most important thing in life is for u to make ur own post like this with full evidence explaining why black pill is real and that looks truly are everything.
Here, you say that maybe, just maybe, if you do EVERYTHING right, you MIGHT be able to live better than someone who mogs you, even though they have an easier time making friends, getting girls, getting jobs, fitting in, pretty much any social aspect of life is improved for them, but if you can do EVERYTHING right, even though you don't specify what all those things are, you MAYBE can have a better life than someone you brutally mogs you. I did read the whole thing, the black pill is most definitely real and something that is necessary to understand if you want to ascend and improve many aspects of your life.
 
"primary factors" -> "looks are literally everything" you already contradict yourself, in your inaccurate description of blackpill and give an immediate strawman. I don't think that looks "fully determine" my value and worth, or anyone's value or worth, but they do determine your percieved value and worth in society.



Being confident and attractive will increase your mental health not just because of self-confidence but because people will treat you better, subconsciously people will feel as if you are kinder, this can boost your personal and percieved confidence. You have 2 examples of things you can do for mental health and improve quality of life, and those things are much easier to do as an HTN than as an LTN. The best way to reduce isolation and make hobbies (especially ones with companions) is if you look good, nobody wants to be friends with the sub-5. Also you come out with an ad hominem again "if you disagree, your logic skills must be shit" so that you have a way to discredit any disagreement.

Here, you say that maybe, just maybe, if you do EVERYTHING right, you MIGHT be able to live better than someone who mogs you, even though they have an easier time making friends, getting girls, getting jobs, fitting in, pretty much any social aspect of life is improved for them, but if you can do EVERYTHING right, even though you don't specify what all those things are, you MAYBE can have a better life than someone you brutally mogs you. I did read the whole thing, the black pill is most definitely real and something that is necessary to understand if you want to ascend and improve many aspects of your life.
I wasn't contradicting myself. As I have said, many people have multiple different definitions of what black pill actually means, my definition may of been seen as inaccurate by you, but that is the definition that many people believe the black pill means. You are correct where they do not fully determine your value or worth, and are sort of correct on how other people percieve you, if someone is super funny, popular and rich and just have a high status overall, their looks dont really determine their value or worth in society unless its the first time meeting them or a first impression. You are also correct about how looking attractive will increase your mental health because people will treat you better, however, having a high status can also grant you this. Also, an example of a hobby would be online gaming, like Fortnite which is an example I gave. No one is going to judge you for your face if they don't know what you look like. Also, I totally get your analogy on that being an HTN makes it soo much easier to make friends compared to a sub 5, this is obvoiusly true, but that doesnt mean its impossible to make friends as a sub 5, and that a Sub 5 can still live an enjoyable life, but it will be a lot harder.

Overall reading your whole response I think you had a differnet idea of the definition of Black Pill, as I said again, multiple people have different ideas on what Black Pill actually means.
 
I wasn't contradicting myself. As I have said, many people have multiple different definitions of what black pill actually means, my definition may of been seen as inaccurate by you, but that is the definition that many people believe the black pill means. You are correct where they do not fully determine your value or worth, and are sort of correct on how other people percieve you, if someone is super funny, popular and rich and just have a high status overall, their looks dont really determine their value or worth in society unless its the first time meeting them or a first impression. You are also correct about how looking attractive will increase your mental health because people will treat you better, however, having a high status can also grant you this. Also, an example of a hobby would be online gaming, like Fortnite which is an example I gave. No one is going to judge you for your face if they don't know what you look like. Also, I totally get your analogy on that being an HTN makes it soo much easier to make friends compared to a sub 5, this is obvoiusly true, but that doesnt mean its impossible to make friends as a sub 5, and that a Sub 5 can still live an enjoyable life, but it will be a lot harder.

Overall reading your whole response I think you had a differnet idea of the definition of Black Pill, as I said again, multiple people have different ideas on what Black Pill actually means.
I don't entirely disagree with your definition; I disagreed with the contradiction that you say the blackpill is looks are a primary factor in a person's value/worth, and then in your next sentence say that "Pretty much, Black Pill means that looks are literally everything and fully determine your value and worth as a human being" which is an extreme exaggeration of your initial definition. Personally, I believe that looks are the deciding factor in how people are recieved by society, which in turn determines their percieved worth, but does not take away their inherit value as a human being. As an ltn myself, I try my best to not treat people poorly based on their looks, especially not in person, but subconciously, it does affect my interactions, which proves my point.
 
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I don't entirely disagree with your definition; I disagreed with the contradiction that you say the blackpill is looks are a primary factor in a person's value/worth, and then in your next sentence say that "Pretty much, Black Pill means that looks are literally everything and fully determine your value and worth as a human being" which is an extreme exaggeration of your initial definition. Personally, I believe that looks are the deciding factor in how people are recieved by society, which in turn determines their percieved worth, but does not take away their inherit value as a human being. As an ltn myself, I try my best to not treat people poorly based on their looks, especially not in person, but subconciously, it does affect my interactions, which proves my point.
point taken, but once again, there are many people who believe that looks are the key factor for life. I was just puting it out there that that definition was false.
 

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