Why do CS grads get hired for non-CS roles

[Jason Voorhees]

So my university just had another company come for placements the role was something like Risk Analyst / Quant Analyst / Financial Modelling / Trading support basically quant adjacent stuff

But the weird part is it was open only to CS and related engineering branches not finance, economics, or even math majors.

And I don't really understand why. Like I have only surface level knowledge of financial markets and let's be real most of people in CS barely know anything about finance beyond maybe what a stock or an option is. Yet these companies are hiring CS grads for roles that sound like they should be for people who actually studied markets, accounting or risk management.

It's not the first time either I've noticed the same thing with consulting quant firms and even sales reps for some reason they either prefer or outright only take CS,math, or physics grads.

Finance and business students often don't even get the chance to sit for these roles. . I asked one of my friends who applied and he told me they don't ask much related to CS degree in these roles. It's more like cognition and IQ test with a few rounds of personality interviews. They are kind rare and insanely competitive but they pay ridiculous money too. Like we are talking +$200K. Some of my batchmates have been placed quant firms in London, NYC, Amsterdam etc and are undergoing training. Basically companies themselves teaches them finance concepts. Seems like CS grads are getting jobs anywhere but in CS roles. Jfl

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Corleone @gymcel64 @Saint Casanova @wishIwasSalludon

 

[Mitakaa1341]

Degrees a lot of the time are just signalling to employers only like 30% of people have a job related to their degree. More difficult degree = better signalling that you're high iq and hardworking

 

[Saint Casanova]

Very strange. They should accept things like maths and physics as well. So I’ve heard

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Swarthy Knight @wishIwasSalludon

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Very strange. They should accept things like maths and physics as well. So I’ve heard

Math yes most quant firms often do. Physics is rare.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@imontheloose @Gengar @4ever @User28823

 

[Arbuscular]

My guess is that people in cs are really good at " at the go" problem solving and creating creative solutions for shit so they filter for that

 

[FaceandBBC]

This is my inevitable fate

 

[Swarthy Knight]

They want more curries/gooks (CS majors) opposed to nepo white brahs (Finance majors) to help with great replacement plan

But jokes aside, I guess it's because these specific roles require more of a technical background nowadays. Which is probably more difficult to be good at than the financial stuff (a lot of CScels end up getting a MBA anyways). Just a guess tho, I have no clue

 

[imontheloose]

@imontheloose @Gengar @4ever @User28823

EE moggers replace ‘em.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

This is my inevitable fate

I wouldn't complain if I was getting paid that much but I do find that number crunching work to be very boring. That's why I never bothered applying.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

EE moggers replace ‘em.

EE moggers now sit for CS roles while CS niggas are branching out into things that aren't even related to engineering

 

[Saint Casanova]

Math yes most quant firms often do. Physics is rare.

I think the big firms like it because it’s an extremely hard degree plus you get some sort of exposure to programming as well in most courses.

 

[ikramy]

cuz the market is saturated

 

[imontheloose]

EE moggers now sit for CS roles while CS niggas are branching out into things that aren't even related to engineering

I told my CS flatmates last year that they were studying for unemployment. They allege that during their first year, they were taught fraction addition, not any sort of fractionalisation you’re thinking of, I’m talking 1/2 + 1/3.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I told my CS flatmates last year that they were studying for unemployment. They allege that during their first year, they were taught fraction addition, not any sort of fractionalisation you’re thinking of, I’m talking 1/2 + 1/3.

I had calculus in my first year. Calculus 3 Green's Theorem, vector calculus all that stuff. And using it on MATLAB. Never used it anywhere i probably even forgot half the concepts that were taught.

 

[imontheloose]

I had calculus in my first year. Calculus 3 Green's Theorem, vector calculus all that stuff. And using it on MATLAB. Never used it anywhere i probably even forgot half the concepts that were taught.

That’s a fair start. How you should start, really. MATLAB is fun when you first use it, but it’s being raped by Python mods currently. Vector calculus was especially fun. Didn’t find Green’s theorem entertaining.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

That’s a fair start. How you should start, really. MATLAB is fun when you first use it, but it’s being raped by Python mods currently. Vector calculus was especially fun. Didn’t find Green’s theorem entertaining.

I found matlab to be meh tbh. Very verbose language and kinda outdated. Most people use python libraries like you said. Scipy,NumPy. There's even this new library PyArmadillo that basically makes MATLAB obsolete but Universities teach them anyway because they bought that expensive MATLAB licences

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@savage21 @Alias! @childishkillah @Shahnamehgymmaxx

 

[User28823]

because they need quant traders, not finance bros

 

[savage21]

So my university just had another company come for placements the role was something like Risk Analyst / Quant Analyst / Financial Modelling / Trading support basically quant adjacent stuff

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But the weird part is it was open only to CS and related engineering branches not finance, economics, or even math majors.

And I don't really understand why. Like I have only surface level knowledge of financial markets and let's be real most of people in CS barely know anything about finance beyond maybe what a stock or an option is. Yet these companies are hiring CS grads for roles that sound like they should be for people who actually studied markets, accounting or risk management.

It's not the first time either I've noticed the same thing with consulting quant firms and even sales reps for some reason they either prefer or outright only take CS,math, or physics grads.

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Finance and business students often don't even get the chance to sit for these roles. . I asked one of my friends who applied and he told me they don't ask much related to CS degree in these roles. It's more like cognition and IQ test with a few rounds of personality interviews. They are kind rare and insanely competitive but they pay ridiculous money too. Like we are talking +$200K. Some of my batchmates have been placed quant firms in London, NYC, Amsterdam etc and are undergoing training. Basically companies themselves teaches them finance concepts. Seems like CS grads are getting jobs anywhere but in CS roles. Jfl

CS is a somewhat difficult degree and lots of CS jobs are filled right now. They don’t really have another choice and most CS graduates put in lots of hours/work.

 

[imontheloose]

I found matlab to be meh tbh. Very verbose language and kinda outdated. Most people use python libraries like you said. Scipy,NumPy. There's even this new library PyArmadillo that basically makes MATLAB obsolete but Universities teach them anyway because they bought that expensive MATLAB licences

At the company I used to work for, their fluid models were all programmed in Fortran and they were remarkable. The folks who made them retired long ago and we still use it till this day. No one we ever hired could make a model quite as good. Very good language for modelling.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

CS is a somewhat difficult degree and lots of CS jobs are filled right now. They don’t really have another choice and most CS graduates put in lots of hours/work.

CS if you just want a superficial degree isn't hard to get. Other engineering and STEMcel majors are much more difficult but what CScels are generally goor at is algorithms and logical thinking which has applications everywhere

 

[Alias!]

So my university just had another company come for placements the role was something like Risk Analyst / Quant Analyst / Financial Modelling / Trading support basically quant adjacent stuff

View attachment 4242952

But the weird part is it was open only to CS and related engineering branches not finance, economics, or even math majors.

And I don't really understand why. Like I have only surface level knowledge of financial markets and let's be real most of people in CS barely know anything about finance beyond maybe what a stock or an option is. Yet these companies are hiring CS grads for roles that sound like they should be for people who actually studied markets, accounting or risk management.

It's not the first time either I've noticed the same thing with consulting quant firms and even sales reps for some reason they either prefer or outright only take CS,math, or physics grads.

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Finance and business students often don't even get the chance to sit for these roles. . I asked one of my friends who applied and he told me they don't ask much related to CS degree in these roles. It's more like cognition and IQ test with a few rounds of personality interviews. They are kind rare and insanely competitive but they pay ridiculous money too. Like we are talking +$200K. Some of my batchmates have been placed quant firms in London, NYC, Amsterdam etc and are undergoing training. Basically companies themselves teaches them finance concepts. Seems like CS grads are getting jobs anywhere but in CS roles. Jfl

Insane feel bad for CS cels

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

I think cuz cs is a broad grad that has a lot of logic involved so ppl get hired for positions that require logical thinking even though not directly CS related

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

I think cuz cs is a broad grad that has a lot of logic involved so ppl get hired for positions that require logical thinking even though not directly CS related

Here in brazil for an example Banks and other financial companies love to hire engineers because of their math training and rudimentary CS as well (unless computer engineering ofc)

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Insane feel bad for CS cels

Why feel bad?

 

[Alias!]

Why feel bad?

They get hired for non CS roles

Not as bad as not being able to get a job tho

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@CorinthianLOX @BeanCelll @5'7" 3/4s

 

[5'7" 3/4s]

good thread

 

[Jason Voorhees]

good thread

Say something nigga. I tag for an opinion

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@widdi @NotAMogger @Jager

 

[5'7" 3/4s]

Say something nigga. I tag for an opinion

Good thread, nigger.

It’s my dream to be knowledgeable in all things computer science while also being a master at finance. I want to own a hedge fund one day, this makes me think the two paths are more intertwined than I initially would have even realized.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Good thread, nigger.

It’s my dream to be knowledgeable in all things computer science while also being a master at finance. I want to own a hedge fund one day, this makes me think the two paths are more intertwined than I initially would have even realized.

Rishi Sunak maxxing

 

[NotAMogger]

Maybe in your uni, CS majors tend to be higher IQ on average and the companies connected with your university probably knows about that.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Perfectiοn

 

[Jager]

@widdi @NotAMogger @Jager

feel bad for em they got hired for non cs roles

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@wishIwasSalludon

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

@Corleone @gymcel64 @Saint Casanova @wishIwasSalludon

@Swarthy Knight @wishIwasSalludon

@wishIwasSalludon

third times the charm ahh tagging

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

So my university just had another company come for placements the role was something like Risk Analyst / Quant Analyst / Financial Modelling / Trading support basically quant adjacent stuff

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But the weird part is it was open only to CS and related engineering branches not finance, economics, or even math majors.

And I don't really understand why. Like I have only surface level knowledge of financial markets and let's be real most of people in CS barely know anything about finance beyond maybe what a stock or an option is. Yet these companies are hiring CS grads for roles that sound like they should be for people who actually studied markets, accounting or risk management.

It's not the first time either I've noticed the same thing with consulting quant firms and even sales reps for some reason they either prefer or outright only take CS,math, or physics grads.

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Finance and business students often don't even get the chance to sit for these roles. . I asked one of my friends who applied and he told me they don't ask much related to CS degree in these roles. It's more like cognition and IQ test with a few rounds of personality interviews. They are kind rare and insanely competitive but they pay ridiculous money too. Like we are talking +$200K. Some of my batchmates have been placed quant firms in London, NYC, Amsterdam etc and are undergoing training. Basically companies themselves teaches them finance concepts. Seems like CS grads are getting jobs anywhere but in CS roles. Jfl

its easier to teach a CS student the financial knowledge for those roles but not easy to teach a finance student the technical knowledge for those roles

also a successful CS student or engineer is pretty much guaranteed to be smart enough to understand the finance aspect of said roles, but a finance student may not be smart enough to know the technical aspects well.

 

[childishkillah]

So my university just had another company come for placements the role was something like Risk Analyst / Quant Analyst / Financial Modelling / Trading support basically quant adjacent stuff

View attachment 4242952

But the weird part is it was open only to CS and related engineering branches not finance, economics, or even math majors.

And I don't really understand why. Like I have only surface level knowledge of financial markets and let's be real most of people in CS barely know anything about finance beyond maybe what a stock or an option is. Yet these companies are hiring CS grads for roles that sound like they should be for people who actually studied markets, accounting or risk management.

It's not the first time either I've noticed the same thing with consulting quant firms and even sales reps for some reason they either prefer or outright only take CS,math, or physics grads.

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Finance and business students often don't even get the chance to sit for these roles. . I asked one of my friends who applied and he told me they don't ask much related to CS degree in these roles. It's more like cognition and IQ test with a few rounds of personality interviews. They are kind rare and insanely competitive but they pay ridiculous money too. Like we are talking +$200K. Some of my batchmates have been placed quant firms in London, NYC, Amsterdam etc and are undergoing training. Basically companies themselves teaches them finance concepts. Seems like CS grads are getting jobs anywhere but in CS roles. Jfl

It seems like they don't trust the education program of the college and they just want someone high iq.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

third times the charm ahh tagging

I forget and keep remembering that you're the only guy doing a major in math here

 

[Richard Cheese]

cause it doesn't matter most grads don't remember half the shit they learned someone will teach them on the spot.

 

[gunrenaissance]

So my university just had another company come for placements the role was something like Risk Analyst / Quant Analyst / Financial Modelling / Trading support basically quant adjacent stuff

View attachment 4242952

But the weird part is it was open only to CS and related engineering branches not finance, economics, or even math majors.

And I don't really understand why. Like I have only surface level knowledge of financial markets and let's be real most of people in CS barely know anything about finance beyond maybe what a stock or an option is. Yet these companies are hiring CS grads for roles that sound like they should be for people who actually studied markets, accounting or risk management.

It's not the first time either I've noticed the same thing with consulting quant firms and even sales reps for some reason they either prefer or outright only take CS,math, or physics grads.

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Finance and business students often don't even get the chance to sit for these roles. . I asked one of my friends who applied and he told me they don't ask much related to CS degree in these roles. It's more like cognition and IQ test with a few rounds of personality interviews. They are kind rare and insanely competitive but they pay ridiculous money too. Like we are talking +$200K. Some of my batchmates have been placed quant firms in London, NYC, Amsterdam etc and are undergoing training. Basically companies themselves teaches them finance concepts. Seems like CS grads are getting jobs anywhere but in CS roles. Jfl

Because employers are fucking retarded and I'm not kidding
A finance guy might be much much MUCH better at what they do than a cs grad, maybe the best in the field, but if the cs guy went to a slightly more prestigious university they'll get chosen over him
Employers can just do whatever the fuck they want because they have so many to chose from
Also quant roles demand: finance + economics + programming + data, the last two are the most important and math heavy whoch a cs Grad already has, the other two are easy to compensate for

 

[gymcel64]

just fucking lol at my dumbass for pursuing studies in finance when some nerds are taking my spots with absolutely 0 knowledge about the markets…

 

[Corleone]

I made a similar observation.

The risk and quant departments, meaning the back-office roles, love hiring Computer Science-, Data Science-, or Statistics graduates - while the client-facing, more sales-oriented, roles are saved for finance and business majors.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I made a similar observation.

The risk and quant departments, meaning the back-office roles, love hiring Computer Science-, Data Science-, or Statistics graduates - while the client-facing, more sales-oriented, roles are saved for finance and business majors.

Why do you think this is the reason? And what do you think about CScels taking up these roles? Do they perform?