Why do muslims use so many swear words?

[Albeacho]

brb reverting

Yeah don't want to miss on the white jb prime

 

[Deleted member 3043]

u dont understand sufi saints are evil they scam people and say things like "you can only talk to allah via me"

I'm not saying about those guys bro. I'm talking about IHSAN. the reality of former sufism.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

I'm not saying about those guys bro. I'm talking about IHSAN. the reality of former sufism.

yeha i agree with sufisim in that way

 

[Deleted member 3043]

yeha i agree with sufisim in that way

It's literally the most important part of faith, to know you'r sinceer.
What are we? beside weak creatures?
If we don't act everyday as to worship god, what are we?
Literally at the origin, sufis were all the companions. It was about the remembrance of the One daily.
it was about fighting your nafs, to reach fan'a - destruction of your ego in the One.

 

[Albeacho]

The main issue are some sects of shi'ism scholars not even the people, a decent amount of shia doctrine are fine sunni wise.
The two issue are :
Insulting, cursing, saying that all muslims were wrong in the time of the prophet SAWAS, beside his family and salman al farisi.
The second : Believing that the blessed family has all power and all knowing.

For the rest, believing that Ali ra should have been sooner a ruler, ie before uthman, or etc is a political issue, i'm fine with that, it's not a thing that excommonicate from faith.

First of all sunnis do curse as well and we are also threatened a lot. If you accept that Imam mahdi is powerful and will save the world with Isa then why are you denying the power of imams?
And the last point of Imam ali your fine with that as well.
What separates the groups is very miniscule.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

I'm not saying about those guys bro. I'm talking about IHSAN. the reality of former sufism.

im just against people like this

 

[Deleted member 12303]

It's literally the most important part of faith, to know you'r sinceer.
What are we? beside weak creatures?
If we don't act everyday as to worship god, what are we?
Literally at the origin, sufis were all the companions. It was about the remembrance of the One daily.
it was about fighting your nafs, to reach fan'a - destruction of your ego in the One.

Its about worshipping god alone and doing good deeds

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[Deleted member 3043]

First of all sunnis do curse as well and we are also threatened a lot. If you accept that Imam mahdi is powerful and will save the world with Isa then why are you denying the power of imams?
And the last point of Imam ali your fine with that as well.
What separates the groups is very miniscule.

Nobody should threaten each other as long as they consider themselves as creature of god, it's more a political issue.
Did i ? do you i consider you lower than me? No.

I'm not saying they can't have power. But they can't have what are the attribute of God, some shia theology are exagerating and negating unicity of God; Not even Muhammad SAWAS had that. They can have the power God decides so, but in the limit of the monotheism.

For example there is a shia narration that says that Ali ra, will judge people and sent them himself to paradise or hellfire. This is contradictory with monotheism.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

im just against people like this
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This is more technical, since i've seen narrations in that regard. But as for myself, i'm not for this either. Just my opinion.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

This is more technical, since i've seen narrations in that regard. But as for myself, i'm not for this either. Just my opinion.

grave worship is kufr bro

 

[Albeacho]

I'm not saying they can't have power. But they can't have what are the attribute of God, some shia theology are exagerating and negating unicity of God; Not even Muhammad SAWAS had that. They can have the power God decides so, but in the limit of the monotheism.

For example there is a shia narration that says that Ali ra, will judge people and sent them himself to paradise or hellfire. This is contradictory with monotheism.

I personally don't believe in that they have god like powers.

Nobody should threaten each other as long as they consider themselves as creature of god, it's more a political issue.
Did i ? do you i consider you lower than me? No.

exactly
I think most of it comes down to politics but its very sad that All Muslims are not united.

 

[Albeacho]

grave worship is kufr bro

Don't people go to prophet muhammads shrine and kiss it?

 

[Deleted member 12303]

I personally don't believe in that they have god like powers.

exactly
I think most of it comes down to politics but its very sad that All Muslims are not united.

islam will be majority religion by 2070 and muslims will be powerful again

 

[Deleted member 12303]

Don't people go to prophet muhammads shrine and kiss it?

they are wrong for doimg that

 

[Deleted member 12303]

Don't people go to prophet muhammads shrine and kiss it?

so many muslims are ignorant and misguided

 

[Albeacho]

they are wrong for doimg that

Im just saying most muslims don't consider it wrong

 

[Deleted member 3043]

grave worship is kufr bro

Imam shafi'i did go usually on the tomb of imam abou hanifa to pray and ask for help from God by his help.
I'm personnally not a fan of this, but you can't by your own make decisions on things that the greatest scholars did.
Just don't do it, and don't say things about it and you'r fine.

 

[Albeacho]

islam will be majority religion by 2070 and muslims will be powerful again

I hope I am alive to see that day

 

[Deleted member 3043]

so many muslims are ignorant and misguided

are you against intercession? because it's a normal thing.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

Imam shafi'i did go usually on the tomb of imam abou hanifa to pray and ask for help from God by his help.
I'm personnally not a fan of this, but you can't by your own make decisions on things that the greatest scholars did.
Just don't do it, and don't say things about it and you'r fine.

i cant believe he did that it must be a fabrication

 

[Deleted member 3043]

I personally don't believe in that they have god like powers.

exactly
I think most of it comes down to politics but its very sad that All Muslims are not united.

It was a political issue, from the start to the end. It was only after that Ibn sabah tried to create a faith on his own to worship ali. And Ali ra burned him for such a thing !
Now most people are ignorant of the history of their faith. But as i said, if you don't do what i say, none muslims scholars will disqualify you.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

are you against intercession? because it's a normal thing.

intercession as in you make suplication through another human yeah im against that

 

[Deleted member 3043]

i cant believe he did that it must be a fabrication

it's tabbaruk :

"I heard Ach-Châfi’i say: I certainly do the tabarrouk (seeking blessing) by Abu Hanîfah and I go to his grave every day (to visit him). If I have a need, I perform two rak'ah (cycle of prayer) then I go to his grave and I ask Allâh ta'âlâ to grant me what I need and this, near his grave. After that my case is quickly settled ”

Târîkhou Baghdâd » (tome 1, page 123

 

[Deleted member 3043]

intercession as in you make suplication through another human yeah im against that

why then you ask for Muhammad SAWAS intercession?

 

[Deleted member 12303]

it's tabbaruk :

"I heard Ach-Châfi’i say: I certainly do the tabarrouk (seeking blessing) by Abu Hanîfah and I go to his grave every day (to visit him). If I have a need, I perform two rak'ah (cycle of prayer) then I go to his grave and I ask Allâh ta'âlâ to grant me what I need and this, near his grave. After that my case is quickly settled ”

Târîkhou Baghdâd » (tome 1, page 123

Alot of these narrations are weak especiially if they dont have a chain

 

[Deleted member 12303]

why then you ask for Muhammad SAWAS intercession?

His type of intercession is special, every prophet gets one dua they get accepted garunteed, prophet muhhamad said he is saving his dua for the day of resurecction when he will ask allah to lessen the sins of the muslims. You dont even have to ask its garunteed.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Alot of these narrations are weak especiially if they dont have a chain

supposed to be good from what i've heard look it up/

 

[Deleted member 10185]

shias make painting of ali that is idolatry and blatantly disrespectful to him

That does not mean everyone are doing it.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

His type of intercession is special, every prophet gets one dua they get accepted garunteed, prophet muhhamad said he is saving his dua for the day of resurecction when he will ask allah to lessen the sins of the muslims. You dont even have to ask its garunteed.

so you deny even salat ala nabi?
Everyday if i could i would pray in favor of the blessing of the worlds, the reason why God even created this UNIVERSE, it was for him

 

[Deleted member 12303]

That does not mean everyone are doing it.

they should not even be associated with it

 

[Deleted member 12303]

so you deny even salat ala nabi?
Everyday if i could i would pray in favor of the blessing of the worlds, the reason why God even created this UNIVERSE, it was for him

Salat al nabi is sending peace upon the prophet and allah writes it down as a good deed it is not really intercession

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Salat al nabi is sending peace upon the prophet and allah writes it down as a good deed it is not really intercession

it's asking for blessing. You ask for it because he is the most valuable indivual in the world.
And at the same time because he promised to do intercession for you in the judgment day.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

so you deny even salat ala nabi?
Everyday if i could i would pray in favor of the blessing of the worlds, the reason why God even created this UNIVERSE, it was for him

The universe was not created for the prophet he simply was the best of creation only allah knows why he created the universe

 

[Deleted member 12303]

it's asking for blessing. You ask for it because he is the most valuable indivual in the world.
And at the same time because he promised to do intercession for you in the judgment day.

Im pretty sure those are two seperate things

 

[Deleted member 3043]

The universe was not created for the prophet he simply was the best of creation only allah knows why he created the universe

there are narrations that say if it was not for the Prophet sawas, God wouldn't have created the universe and they are strong.

 

[Deleted member 10185]

they should not even be associated with it

What you espect when middle eastern people are dumb as brick.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

there are narrations that say if it was not for the Prophet sawas, God wouldn't have created the universe and they are strong.

I have heard my sheikh warn against these narrations
Many false and fabricated ahadeeth (narrations) have been narrated that say similar things. For example:

“Were it not for you, I would not have created the universe.”

This was quoted by al-Shawkani in al-Fawaid al-Majmoo’ah fi’l-Ahadeeth al-Mawdoo’ah (p. 326). He said:

Al-San’ani said: (it is) mawdoo’ (fabricated).

Al-Albani said in al-Silsilah al-Da’eefah (282): (it is) mawdoo’.

Another example is the hadeeth narrated by al-Hakim according to which Ibn ‘Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) said:

“Allah revealed to ‘Eesa (Jesus, peace be upon him): ‘O ‘Eesa, believe in Muhammad, and tell whoever you meet of your ummah (followers) to believe in him. For were it not for Muhammad, I would not have created Adam, and were it not for Muhammad, I would not have created Paradise and Hell. I created the Throne over the water and it would not settle until I wrote on it, La ilaha ill-Allah Muhammad Rasool Allah (There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah).”

Al-Hakim said: its isnad (chain of narration) is saheeh! But al-Thahabi commented on this and said: I believe it is fabricated and falsely attributed to Sa’eed.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

What you espect when middle eastern people are dumb as brick.

they are not. They are your people and our. If you consider them as dumb you consider yourself as dumb too.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

What you espect when middle eastern people are dumb as brick.

the west robbed them of the resources to be educated

 

[lutte]

srs why does every single islam thread get 5+ pages

 

[Deleted member 12303]

there are narrations that say if it was not for the Prophet sawas, God wouldn't have created the universe and they are strong.

The prophet was great but dont over praise him he himself warned against overpraising him

 

[Deleted member 12303]

srs why does every single islam thread get 5+ pages

Because people always spread falso info so we as muslims have to refute them

 

[Deleted member 3043]

srs why does every single islam thread get 5+ pages

Religion for genuine people>race, ethnicity, family, everything.
It's the sole thing that don't vanish with time.

 

[Deleted member 10185]

they are not. They are your people and our. If you consider them as dumb you consider yourself as dumb too.

They are my people for sure but You dont know how much disappointing Im on them.. Like for example Iraq.. Its pure mess. Im itself FROM Shia family.. but the corruption so laughable bad.. We are living in democracy which literally elect the same 5-8 different wannabe dictator each 4 year. Its just democracy in name.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

They are my people for sure but You dont know how much disappointing Im on them.. Like for example Iraq.. Its pure mess. Im itself FROM Shia family.. but the corruption so laughable bad.. We are living in democracy which literally elect 5-8 different dictator each 4 year.

That's not the people. Only a minority are corrupted and bad, then it's the rulers that are also bad, i agree.
Democracy is a big cope too. will never work in ME and not supposed to be. It's just a dictatorship in the name of democracy. democracy there basically just mean spreading degeneracy.

 

[Albeacho]

They are my people for sure but You dont know how much disappointing Im on them.. Like for example Iraq.. Its pure mess. Im itself FROM Shia family.. but the corruption so laughable bad.. We are living in democracy which literally elect the same 5-8 different wannabe dictator each 4 year. Its just democracy in name.

Ngl iraq fucked its self over when it attacked Iran and kuwait.

 

[Deleted member 6475]

srs why does every single islam thread get 5+ pages

bcuz of streege

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Ngl iraq fucked its self over when it attacked Iran and kuwait.

And you think it was the decision of saddam? He was a puppet that's it. They decided so, so it happened.

 

[Albeacho]

And you think it was the decision of saddam? He was a puppet that's it. They decided so, so it happened.

It was the jewish overlords.