Why Do People Here Support Socialist/Communist Fiscal Ideology?

[Deleted member 18159]

Everything follows a Mathematical Pareto Distribution. A small minority of men attract all the women. A small minority of athletes score all the points. A small minority of people own all the money. Even molecular gases disperse in a general 80/20 Pareto Distribution pattern. The same result always emerges regardless of whatever regulations you enforce. In a socialist/communist society, there is still rampant inequality. The only difference is that the state owns all of the money rather than corporations. Inequality will always exist mathematically, there's nothing you can really do about it. At least in a capitalist society, you generally have greater innovation and more personal freedoms which makes it preferable to socialism/communism.

 

[Deleted member 18372]

true but my friend got laid by larping as leftie

 

[Vermilioncore]

I don’t know what socialism or communism is? Sounds like boring history class bullshit

 

[Deleted member 15338]

Liberal socialism is the absolute worst, imagine paying for free condoms, abortions, for supporting single moms

 

[Deleted member 18159]

Liberal socialism is the absolute worst, imagine paying for free condoms, abortions, for supporting single moms

Exactly lmao. Nothing more cucked than paying tax money towards another mans conquests

 

[Deleted member 15338]

Exactly lmao. Nothing more cucked than paying tax money towards another mans conquests

Yeah but normal socialism was not bad actually

In America %1 own %99 jfl

 

[Adamsmith12345]

Communism is the end goal of every society. What you should be debating about is how the transitory state should function.

I support capitalism, but only as a transitory system.

 

[Harold O'brien]

>everything follows a pareto distribution except all the stuff that doesn't

mirin high iq thoughts

 

[Landorus]

Everything follows a Mathematical Pareto Distribution. A small minority of men attract all the women. A small minority of athletes score all the points. A small minority of people own all the money. Even molecular gases disperse in a general 80/20 Pareto Distribution pattern. The same result always emerges regardless of whatever regulations you enforce. In a socialist/communist society, there is still rampant inequality. The only difference is that the state owns all of the money rather than corporations. Inequality will always exist mathematically, there's nothing you can really do about it. At least in a capitalist society, you generally have greater innovation and more personal freedoms which makes it preferable to socialism/communism.

state distributed gfs

 

[Detona]

Why do capitalist LARPers on this forum think that low birthrates, the consequence of a 'Pareto' distribution of sexual activity, are sustainable in capitalism? Capitalism need people to have kids to buy those big houses they had to build to keep the banks afloat. Since people won't have kids, you'll have to import immigrants, who will push for socialism anyway. This is the "actual" inequality that is inevitable: unequal enforcement of the law to compensate for the bad behavior of native born women.



Freedom of choice is bullshit. Tradition existed for a reason. Keeping women pregnant and in marriage is one of the basic building blocks of civilization. Without it, you get something like Amerika or Russia.

 

[thereallegend]

Communism is the end goal of every society. What you should be debating about is how the transitory state should function.

I support capitalism, but only as a transitory system.

Are you a Menshevik?

 

[Deleted member 4106]

The worst thing is to see first world people supporting this shit, if they knew what life is like in a socialist country no one would support this shit theory

 

[Adamsmith12345]

Are you a Menshevik?

yes

 

[Deleted member 18159]

The worst thing is to see first world people supporting this shit, if they knew what life is like in a socialist country no one would support this shit theory

The one commonality among all people who support socialism is that they are bitter and resentful. Nobody well off would support such an ideology.

 

[thereallegend]

The one commonality among all people who support socialism is that they are bitter and resentful. Nobody well off would support such an ideology.

Did slave owners support the end of slavery?

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

true but my friend got laid by larping as leftie

only in Kadıköy

 

[Offensive Bias]

Everything follows a Mathematical Pareto Distribution. A small minority of men attract all the women. A small minority of athletes score all the points. A small minority of people own all the money. Even molecular gases disperse in a general 80/20 Pareto Distribution pattern. The same result always emerges regardless of whatever regulations you enforce. In a socialist/communist society, there is still rampant inequality. The only difference is that the state owns all of the money rather than corporations. Inequality will always exist mathematically, there's nothing you can really do about it. At least in a capitalist society, you generally have greater innovation and more personal freedoms which makes it preferable to socialism/communism.

Unfathomably based.

 

[ConspiracyTheory]

I don't.
I'm 100% free market.

 

[Blackout.xl]

Because they’re rotters who’ve given up and want to be bankrolled by the state instead of contributing to a Society that they believe has failed them.

They don’t care about the innovation potential of capitalism, they care about getting pussy. So that point is moot.

What they fail to realize is that the problem isn’t economic, it’s purely cultural. Centre-left social democratic societies, especially ones found in Scandinavia, have very high rates of inceldom.

Even if you pushed the lever all the way into socialism with government / worker owned property being the exclusive form of ownership, nothing would change in the sexual market.

If anything, more incels would be created as betabuxx / resource route becomes impossible and many providers who would otherwise be sexless now become sexless with no cards to play.

as long as the cultural norms are skewed towards hypergamy, gynocentricism, female biased sexual liberation (modern feminism) and non-monogamy, the sexual distribution will always be skewed towards most women favouring the vast, vast minority of men.

I guess living as an incel in a socialist state with guaranteed “security” (subject to the economic situation at any given time, see 1960’s USSR vs late 80’s/early 90’s USSR as an example), would definitely beat having to work for a living in a society that spits on you.

Doesn’t solve the core problem though and definitely doesn’t achieve the goal these incels are looking for.

 

[Blackout.xl]

Did slave owners support the end of slavery?

Slavery and slave owners isn’t even in the same realm as free market economics and people who are actually successful financially.

One is an act that violates the personal right to self determination, one is a system that allows private property.

This is why many of those who opposed slavery back in the day werent just bitter people at the bottom end of society. many were actually aristocrats part of the political and financial elite.

Meanwhile many if not most people opposed to capitalism are people who couldn’t cut it in a field of open competition and therefore are bitter about the system, similar to how someone who doesn’t even make the podium at the Olympics becomes bitter about the event.

 

[Deleted member 18159]

Because they’re rotters who’ve given up and want to be bankrolled by the state instead of contributing to a Society that they believe has failed them.

They don’t care about the innovation potential of capitalism, they care about getting pussy. So that point is moot.

What they fail to realize is that the problem isn’t economic, it’s purely cultural. Centre-left social democratic societies, especially ones found in Scandinavia, have very high rates of inceldom.

Even if you pushed the lever all the way into socialism with government / worker owned property being the exclusive form of ownership, nothing would change in the sexual market.

If anything, more incels would be created as betabuxx / resource route becomes impossible and many providers who would otherwise be sexless now become sexless with no cards to play.

as long as the cultural norms are skewed towards hypergamy, gynocentricism, female biased sexual liberation (modern feminism) and non-monogamy, the sexual distribution will always be skewed towards most women favouring the vast, vast minority of men.

I guess living as an incel in a socialist state with guaranteed “security” (subject to the economic situation at any given time, see 1960’s USSR vs late 80’s/early 90’s USSR as an example), would definitely beat having to work for a living in a society that spits on you.

Doesn’t solve the core problem though and definitely doesn’t achieve the goal these incels are looking for.

High IQ

 

[Deleted member 18582]

Im a communist but still freemarket and pro woman

 

[Offensive Bias]

Im a communist but still freemarket and pro woman

How can you be a communist and free market at the sametime? That's an oxymoron. It's like having a obvious God complex then claiming you believe in equality

 

[hebbewem]

Because they do shit economic wise

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

true but my friend got laid by larping as leftie

Its ironic how resource/status/looks - hypergamous women claim to be leftie

 

[hebbewem]

true but my friend got laid by larping as leftie

I doubt it

 

[Deleted member 18372]

Its ironic how resource/status/looks - hypergamous women claim to be leftie

Well leftism still has lookism and status, and theoretically wealth isn't a problem. In fact being a leftist is a sign of (perceived) status.

I doubt it

u mad he pulls bitches with zero shekels?

 

[spark]

inequality is not the same in every country

what a dumb thread

 

[hebbewem]

Well leftism still has lookism and status, and theoretically wealth isn't a problem. In fact being a leftist is a sign of (perceived) status.

u mad he pulls bitches with zero shekels?

Nope i just don't believe it

 

[Lord-Arthur_17]

true but my friend got laid by larping as leftie

This is because it is a shame to have right-wing views. Only someone jealous of what other people in bed are doing and extremely stupid to believe in religious nonsense can be right-wing. It is no coincidence that conservatives are most often failures - their ideology has been losing for centuries. The same people are crying that the left has too much power.

 

[Deleted member 17872]

This is because it is a shame to have right-wing views. Only someone jealous of what other people in bed are doing and extremely stupid to believe in religious nonsense can be right-wing. It is no coincidence that conservatives are most often failures - their ideology has been losing for centuries. The same people are crying that the left has too much power.

Right wing and left wing are one and the same thing. Tools of the elite to keep the masses misguided.

 

[Lord-Arthur_17]

Right wing and left wing are one and the same thing. Tools of the elite to keep the masses misguided.

I agree, but it depends on which left wing we are talking about. In any case, left-wing politics is better for the average person than right-wing politics. Therefore, the right is reluctantly adopting ideas that were formerly leftist (e.g. Tories in the UK accepting LGBT).

Did slave owners support the end of slavery?

This is why the bourgeoisie is concerned with maintaining the status quo.

The worst thing is to see first world people supporting this shit, if they knew what life is like in a socialist country no one would support this shit theory

COPE HARDER

 

[Deleted member 4106]

I agree, but it depends on which left wing we are talking about. In any case, left-wing politics is better for the average person than right-wing politics. Therefore, the right is reluctantly adopting ideas that were formerly leftist (e.g. Tories in the UK accepting LGBT).


This is why the bourgeoisie is concerned with maintaining the status quo.


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COPE HARDER

Maybe that's why the countries mentioned are worse off economically.

By the way, why didn't these countries continue to be socialist, if their model was better?

 

[Deleted member 4106]

I agree, but it depends on which left wing we are talking about. In any case, left-wing politics is better for the average person than right-wing politics. Therefore, the right is reluctantly adopting ideas that were formerly leftist (e.g. Tories in the UK accepting LGBT).


This is why the bourgeoisie is concerned with maintaining the status quo.


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COPE HARDER

You gave me several random images without the link.
And I ask you, are there surveys that show opposite results, or have you only shown me the ones that conveniently support your argument?

The answer is obviously the second, and your research has been refuted.

 

[Lord-Arthur_17]

Maybe that's why the countries mentioned are worse off economically.

Nothing unusual. This is the true face of capitalism.

Maybe that's why the countries mentioned are worse off economically.

By the way, why didn't these countries continue to be socialist, if their model was better?

The reason is revisionism and the betrayal of socialism by the party nomenclature, which wanted to become capitalists after the counter-revolution. This doesn't mean we have to give up.

 

[Deleted member 4106]

Nothing unusual. This is the true face of capitalism.

Yes, capitalism is to blame for socialist countries in the past being worse off economically today, it makes a lot of sense.

This doesn't mean we have to give up

I really admire the perseverance you have with this failed system

 

[Lord-Arthur_17]

You gave me several random images without the link.
And I ask you, are there surveys that show opposite results, or have you only shown me the ones that conveniently support your argument?

The answer is obviously the second, and your research has been refuted.

Do you want a link? Here you are:

1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_Union_referendum

2) https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...eel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html

Yes, capitalism is to blame for socialist countries in the past being worse off economically today, it makes a lot of sense.

I really admire the perseverance you have with this failed system

If capitalism is so great, why are people worse off than under socialism? The imperialist powers live by exploiting poorer countries and are doing their best to overthrow any government that limits their sphere of influence. The failure is capitalism, which has no wise solutions to the problems of homelessness, unemployment, cyclical crises and climate change.

 

[Deleted member 4106]

The imperialist powers live by exploiting poorer countries and are doing their best to overthrow any government that limits their sphere of influence. The failure is capitalism, which has no wise solutions to the problems of homelessness, unemployment, cyclical crises and climate change.

Imperialism is not a feature of capitalism,China and Russian are also imperialists
It is enough to compare the indexes of the capitalist countries with those of the current socialists.

China and Russia are also two big polluting countries.
By the way, clean energy is emerging thanks to capitalism

 

[n0rthface]

Slavery and slave owners isn’t even in the same realm as free market economics and people who are actually successful financially.

One is an act that violates the personal right to self determination, one is a system that allows private property.

This is why many of those who opposed slavery back in the day werent just bitter people at the bottom end of society. many were actually aristocrats part of the political and financial elite.

Meanwhile many if not most people opposed to capitalism are people who couldn’t cut it in a field of open competition and therefore are bitter about the system, similar to how someone who doesn’t even make the podium at the Olympics becomes bitter about the event.

“Le slavery”

Didn’t the soviets use mass slave labour? Lmao

 

[Deleted member 4106]

Do you want a link? Here you are:

1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_Union_referendum

2) https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...eel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html


If capitalism is so great, why are people worse off than under socialism? The imperialist powers live by exploiting poorer countries and are doing their best to overthrow any government that limits their sphere of influence. The failure is capitalism, which has no wise solutions to the problems of homelessness, unemployment, cyclical crises and climate change.

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Show me how communism could be better, I'm curious

 

[Lord-Arthur_17]

Imperialism is not a feature of capitalism,China and Russian are also imperialists
It is enough to compare the indexes of the capitalist countries with those of the current socialists.

China and Russia are also two big polluting countries.
By the way, clean energy is emerging thanks to capitalism

Russia and China are also capitalist.

Show me how communism could be better, I'm curious

 

[Richard_Hungwell]

state distributed gfs

What if you don't like your state-assigned girlfriend though? Would you be able to trade her in for someone else?

 

[Deleted member 4106]

Russia and China are also capitalist.



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Sounds good, how many countries have done this and been successful?

 

[Lord-Arthur_17]

Sounds good, how many countries have done this and been successful?

Read on. Those who want to seek knowledge find it. I have already given suitable examples. I recommend that you read what revisionism in marxism was.

 

[Deleted member 5815]

Russia and CHINA are also capitalist.

Do you know any capitalist country who nationalized most land, collectivized agriculture, controls the major banks as opposed to big families and individual billionaires like in the west?

China hasn't achieved full communism yet they are state capitalist they aren't perfect they still have billionaires but if they go too far they will face the capital punishment, the western media uses this to accuse china of being this evil dictatorship who kills its own people as if billionaires were your average citizen who did nothing wrong, they are corrupt and lived off the slave-like labours of the people for way too long

You can disagree with some of the things going on in China or Korea etc. but now isn't the time to criticize them publicly it just gives ammo to liberals and racists

Once China will have clearly surpassed the United States in every way possible it will be time to implement real communism everywhere

 

[Lord-Arthur_17]

Do you know any capitalist country who nationalized most land, collectivized agriculture, controls the major banks as opposed to big families and individual billionaires like in the west?

China hasn't achieved full communism yet they are state capitalist they aren't perfect they still have billionaires but if they go too far they will face the capital punishment, the western media uses this to accuse china of being this evil dictatorship who kills its own people as if billionaires were your average citizen who did nothing wrong, they are corrupt and lived off the slave-like labours of the people for way too long

You can disagree with some of the things going on in China or Korea etc. but now isn't the time to criticize them publicly it just gives ammo to liberals and racists

Once China will have clearly surpassed the United States in every way possible it will be time to implement real communism everywhere

Okay, but Russia is not socialist. As for China, I am critical of Deng Xiaoping's reforms. I agree that the loss of the current position by the US will bring many changes.

 

[StalinCel]

Everything follows a Mathematical Pareto Distribution. A small minority of men attract all the women. A small minority of athletes score all the points. A small minority of people own all the money. Even molecular gases disperse in a general 80/20 Pareto Distribution pattern. The same result always emerges regardless of whatever regulations you enforce. In a socialist/communist society, there is still rampant inequality. The only difference is that the state owns all of the money rather than corporations. Inequality will always exist mathematically, there's nothing you can really do about it. At least in a capitalist society, you generally have greater innovation and more personal freedoms which makes it preferable to socialism/communism.

Conservative Socialism/Communism >>>

 

[Lord-Arthur_17]

Conservative Socialism/Communism >>>

There is no such thing as conservative socialism. Conservative socialism is a euphemism for fascism.​

 

[StalinCel]

There is no such thing as conservative socialism. Conservative socialism is a euphemism for fascism.​

All past socialist states, were socially conservative. Modern China and North Korea are socially conservative. Cuba is progressive/Degenerate because it's economy got liberalized. It's not even socialist anymore. SocDem at best.

 

[Deleted member 46979]

Everything follows a Mathematical Pareto Distribution. A small minority of men attract all the women. A small minority of athletes score all the points. A small minority of people own all the money. Even molecular gases disperse in a general 80/20 Pareto Distribution pattern. The same result always emerges regardless of whatever regulations you enforce. In a socialist/communist society, there is still rampant inequality. The only difference is that the state owns all of the money rather than corporations. Inequality will always exist mathematically, there's nothing you can really do about it. At least in a capitalist society, you generally have greater innovation and more personal freedoms which makes it preferable to socialism/communism.

desperate people easily manipulated by false promises. they think under communism, socialism, or even a liberal democracy, they would have a better life. in reality, they would have it much worse, especially the ugly n337 losers most drawn to that type of ideolgy. the best system known to man is late 18th century america, pastoral capitalism under a constitutional republic