Why do religious people say this

[Spike2010]

big bang is still theory

Same as existence of god. But the big bang has much more convincing arguments

yes existence is an argument

By this logic god also has his own god. U'll probably counter that "god stands above all things, above time and space" But we don't know the scale of everything and we have nothing to compare it to. Theoretically humanity could create a 2D mini-universe with different laws of physics, and ppl from this mini universe will think that we r 3D god-like beings. If existence is an argument, then it starts an endless chain reaction, god created by god, god who create god also created by gods etc.

I see u still haven't answered a single one of my questions. There's no point in arguing with u right?

 

[Troo_]

nigga jfl at you atheists who larp high iq by psudeo science

Ikr Idk why people think atheism is peak intellectualism.

In some sense I respect others’ beliefs but why bash on others and think so highly of yourself in doing so.

 

[aaronbp]

Same as existence of god. But the big bang has much more convincing arguments


By this logic god also has his own god. U'll probably counter that "god stands above all things, above time and space" But we don't know the scale of everything and we have nothing to compare it to. Theoretically humanity could create a 2D mini-universe with different laws of physics, and ppl from this mini universe will think that we r 3D god-like beings. If existence is an argument, then it starts an endless chain reaction, god created by god, god who create god also created by gods etc.

I see u still haven't answered a single one of my questions. There's no point in arguing with u right?

nigga god is the unmoved mover u cant create him nigga, broski i gave a reply to your points but this was the first time you did bring up a point und tried to debunk something congrats jfl, yeah big bang states universe began to exist jfl so yk what that means ig, nigga we couldnt create we there rules r different, we cant create something outside the logic, if u imply new rules we dont know if math would still work jfl. or ig g is 9.81 it would make no sense and something outside logic cant exist. and no they wouldnt think they were gods jfl since they do not share god like attributes. but finally u brought up a point with some understanding finally thanks god bro. and if u believe big bang contradicts god i think u should kimit your right so free speech. tell me what i havent answered if u say i didnt, if u say one more time why u believe im not gonna respond cuz i made my point clear 8 times.

 

[Jimcel]

ok make a counter argument against Judaism

Not a good idea

 

[halabi]

Religious people when u tell them if u weren’t born in a specific country u would have been following another religion

 

[g4rlic]

Research confirms that religious ppl have lower IQ on avg. This explains everything

water

 

[Spike2010]

god is the unmoved mover

I repeat, even if our universe was created (which is not necessary) then why did u assume that the creator stands above everything and he also could not have been created?

if u say one more time why u believe im not gonna respond cuz i made my point clear 8 times.

Ur point is "I believe cuz it's good to look through rose-colored glasses"? U still haven't answered my questions abt how ur faith is diff from believing in unicorns, or that I won't be hit by a car when I cross the street on a red light. Conviction requires evidence and arguments, but u say that ur conviction does not require evidence. Then why r u arguing with ppl at all?

 

[aaronbp]

I repeat, even if our universe was created (which is not necessary) then why did u assume that the creator stands above everything and he also could not have been created?


Ur point is "I believe cuz it's good to look through rose-colored glasses"? U still haven't answered my questions abt how ur faith is diff from believing in unicorns, or that I won't be hit by a car when I cross the street on a red light. Conviction requires evidence and arguments, but u say that ur conviction does not require evidence. Then why r u arguing with ppl at all?

to your first point i agree its not necessary first of all that the universe was created , the unmoved mover cannot be created because of infinte regress.
Yes I did answer that, because existence mode is a necessary trait that god needs to have according to his being, if he wouldt have it he wouldnt be god, which is outside of logic. your example with unicorns fails cuz a unicorn has not this necessary trait because it isnt all powerful so it has limited traits. your example with a doesnt makes sense yes its a believe but the believe doesnt have any arguments besides theres a chance it could happen and what now? Arguments for God are way different than a believe from getting hit by car, a thomistic faith requires reason why god does exist. like thomas 5 fives or any other logical arhument, not well theres a chance he might exists. I really dont see what point youre trying to get to with your car argument, even if its similar this would contradict theology truths and metaphysical truths. I explained that evidence and god cannot co exist because of the greater good, conviction doesnt need arguments. I could be convicted to do something just because i want to. Hitler believed jews were the devil on earth did he have any evidence, no. but he was convicted through his own arguements. people are arguing because they r searching for truth, the world is not black and white with many different minds, views etc.+ your point with rose-colored glasses is just ass since its acutally my phrase is believe god can be found to reason is highly accepted in higher theology/ philosophy cirles and complety valid, just as someone would say he doesnt think there is a good because of reason.

 

[Spike2010]

to your first point i agree its not necessary first of all that the universe was created

So u believe on God or not? I don't understand u

the unmoved mover cannot be created because of infinte regress.

What is "infinite regress"?

existence mode is a necessary trait that god needs to have according to his being, if he wouldt have it he wouldnt be god, which is outside of logic

What r u alking abt and how does it relate to my statements? I repeat 10 times, USE TRANSLATOR, I DON'T UNDERSTAND UR RAMBLING

its a believe but the believe doesnt have any arguments besides theres a chance it could happen

Its have argument. Cars may not hit me...

Arguments for God are way different than a believe from getting hit by car

1. It's exactly the same heads and tails. God may or may not exist. EVERY argument for god's existence has a counterargument, which is why it's an unanswerable philosophical question. That's as far as deism goes. As for traditional theism, that is, belief in sacred scriptures, this is obviously bs since throughout history no traces of the intervention of this fictitious god in the world have been found. And evolution has long been proven.
2. What do arguments have to do with this? U said that faith doesn't require arguments

unicorn has not this necessary trait because it isnt all powerful so it has limited traits

1. How is this related?... What does it have to do with whether they r powerful or not?
2. I JUST BELIEVE IN UNICORNS, I DON'T NEED EVIDENCE TO CONVINCED ME. PHILOSOPHERS DON'T DENY UNICORNS EITHER. FUCK OFF!

 

[aaronbp]

So u believe on God or not? I don't understand u


What is "infinite regress"?


What r u alking abt and how does it relate to my statements? I repeat 10 times, USE TRANSLATOR, I DON'T UNDERSTAND UR RAMBLING


Its have argument. Cars may not hit me...

1. It's exactly the same heads and tails. God may or may not exist. EVERY argument for god's existence has a counterargument, which is why it's an unanswerable philosophical question. That's as far as deism goes. As for traditional theism, that is, belief in sacred scriptures, this is obviously bs since throughout history no traces of the intervention of this fictitious god in the world have been found. And evolution has long been proven.
2. What do arguments have to do with this? U said that faith doesn't require arguments


1. How is this related?... What does it have to do with whether they r powerful or not?
2. I JUST BELIEVE IN UNICORNS, I DON'T NEED EVIDENCE TO CONVINCED ME. PHILOSOPHERS DON'T DENY UNICORNS EITHER. FUCK OFF!

i cooked u dawg. yes i do, look it up dude u have, dont try to debate about theism when u dont what infinite regress is jfl this is basic lol, okay ive also said this is the only argument, car doesnt apply to gödels since existence mode it not a may but a must have for god jfl, yeah everything has counter arguements even moral truths, most say murder is bad some say it isnt because of that and that, its still bad( moral truth)
to your point with evo, i believe in theistic evo which is far more reasonable since alvin platingas argument against natural evo, also natural evo doesnt explain the tag argument, theistic evo does jfl.
dude u cant even read? I said it doesnt need evidence, arguments aint evidence for the 100 th time. get a normal reading comprehension.
This is related. god must furfill this trait because of his set being unicorn doesnt. again essence dude essence wtf. I am starting to believe u never even did a research on this topic, never picked up a book on this topic etc.
yes u can believe in unicorns idgaf. the unicorn hasnt got a metaphysical existence mode while gods needs one to be god therefore he exists since he needs ti fullfil this trait otherwise he would be all powerful.
U twist my words and bring up just bad 9. grade tiktok arguments. we both know i fully cooked u. so u have to twist my words and cant even understand unmoved mover and gödels argument, so u bring in logical mistakes to throw me. Also u dont know basic theology and philosophy, because of you i think we should limit the free speech jfl

 

[pashtunnigga1]

Research confirms that religious ppl have lower IQ on avg. This explains everything

nigga born in 2010

 

[aaronbp]

I repeat, even if our universe was created (which is not necessary) then why did u assume that the creator stands above everything and he also could not have been created?

1. Ur existence is not an argument. Science has long since proven how the Universe came into being, and it does not necessarily have a creator.

why r u contradicting yourself? i think its been proven and in the other sentence IF ,this is just one example

 

[copemachine]

1. It's exactly the same heads and tails. God may or may not exist. EVERY argument for god's existence has a counterargument, which is why it's an unanswerable philosophical question. That's as far as deism goes. As for traditional theism, that is, belief in sacred scriptures, this is obviously bs since throughout history no traces of the intervention of this fictitious god in the world have been found. And evolution has long been proven.

The non existence of free will disproves most of the Abrahamic relgions. If the total state of your brain and the world were exactly the same, you were never going to do otherwise. You didnt choose your genes, your upbringing, or the thoughts and feelings that show up in consciousness. Heaven/ hell, only works if people had "real alternative possibilities", and therefore truly deserve where they end up in the afterlife. In a determined system, like how our world works with the laws of physichs, you cant justify eternal reward or punishment as a moral form of justice. Once you realize that there isnt free will, and If you follow that train of thought logically, the entire foundation of "god" collapses. And therefore god as we think of in the Abrahamic religion "sense" cant exist.

 

[Klasik616]

I have actually seen this IRL btw

2 religious cucks were talking about religion and I literally heard one of them say

"Let's not question it too much bro I don't wanna accidentally leave the religion or sin"

??????

JFL WHAT.

THAT JUST MEANS YOU DON'T TRUST YOUR RELIGION.

FUCKING RETARD.

How does someone achieve this level of brainwashing?

Because they would rope if they knew how things really work