Why do so many guys roidmaxx but their shoulders remain so narrow/shitty still?

[Crayola CØck]

I browsed tons of SARMs before and afters, and every guy gets more toned but shoulders remain garbage, AKA they get no additional width despite gear+gymcelling.

Same with testosterone sometimes too, you see a dude become a power manlet shredded with tone but has 404 bideltoid. Why can't many guys put on width despite gear?

With the gains, why are so many guys EVEN ON GEAR still narrow and never get wider look?

Yet we have natties like @Orc who got much wider without gear.

Look at this subhuman after FIVE MONTHS of being on RAD-140:

Still is narrower than an average teenage girl in gym class. What's up with so many roiding dudes who still look narrow as a lamp post? Why no delts?

I'd assume these gymcels hit shoulders so why can't they increase width on gear while natty gymcels sometimes do? Why can some guys get wide, others can't/don't seem to? You'd THINK roiding gymcels would get wider ALWAYS.

Is this a posture sort of thing? Why can't so many roidmaxxing dudes get truly wider, they just get more toned? NO big delts, wider back/clavs, etc.

Anyone know what the limiting factor here is for these roiders, especially since some natty gymcels get more width? If natty can, why roider can't?!

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[stimmaxxing]

probably just subhuman frame ngl, roids don't magically change bone structure (also roids increase muscle growth in all areas so like thats why roiders have huge traps). the shoulders are probably outshined

 

[User28823]

frame

 

[LipstickAlley]

Like everything else blackpill related, it boils down to muh genes

in this case the subhuman sarm goblins (me included) have dogshit clavicle length so no matter how much "meat" we put on our actual bones don't grow

it's over

 

[Crayola CØck]

probably just subhuman frame ngl, roids don't magically change bone structure (also roids increase muscle growth in all areas so like thats why roiders have huge traps). the shoulders are probably outshined

frame

Did you read what I said? Natties like @Orc got wider after years of gymcelling, yet enhanced dudes still end up with 404 width:

Thurston has been on gear for YEARS and gymcels, yet he doesn't look that wide vs. some natty gymcel progress pics I've seen.

I'd estimate Thurston's bideltoid here to be MAYBE 22 inches, while Orc/Arborist claims 25+ inches as a natty who is notably lean.

What explains why roids WHICH ENHANCE progress cannot make these roiding dudes get wider, yet a natty nigga can somehow!??!!

I'M FURIOUS ABOUT THIS AND NEED AN ANSWER ASAP!!!

HOW ARE ROIDED GUYS NOT GETTING WIDER, BUT NATTIES CAN?!!!

 

[kokoszanel]

Can't scam nature,
Wide frame depends on puberty and many other factor such as: posture, diet, calorie intake, stretching, activity, working out.
If dude is old and start taking roids his bones are already closed and he can't ged wider via "bone frame".
Broad shoulders are a sign of high impact power of punches = more protect = girls love it.

Broad shoulder = strong punches, strong throws
Strong punches = many attempt to hit/fight someone
Many attempt = long term training ( in primal term )

 

[5.5psl]

That's an amazing transformation for 5 months keep coping

 

[Crayola CØck]

That's an amazing transformation for 5 months keep coping
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He has no shoulders and in fact looked wider before he started even JFL

Imagine taking experimental anabolics for half a year to look narrower.

I probably have more bideltoid being a lazy fuck than him.

He is probably like 19 inch bideltoid on fucking SARMs + lifting for years. It's just bad. Set your sights higher.

 

[Saint Casanova]

The OG looksmaxxer Astrosky took Tren to look like a tiny natty, jfl

 

[Saint Casanova]

Did you read what I said? Natties like @Orc got wider after years of gymcelling, yet enhanced dudes still end up with 404 width:

Thurston has been on gear for YEARS and gymcels, yet he doesn't look that wide vs. some natty gymcel progress pics I've seen.

I'd estimate Thurston's bideltoid here to be MAYBE 22 inches, while Orc/Arborist claims 25+ inches as a natty who is notably lean.

What explains why roids WHICH ENHANCE progress cannot make these roiding dudes get wider, yet a natty nigga can somehow!??!!

I'M FURIOUS ABOUT THIS AND NEED AN ANSWER ASAP!!!

HOW ARE ROIDED GUYS NOT GETTING WIDER, BUT NATTIES CAN?!!!

Why are you implying that ORC is natty, he can lie too? both him and thurston claim natty so why are you singling out Thurston for roid use ?

 

[User28823]

Did you read what I said? Natties like @Orc got wider after years of gymcelling, yet enhanced dudes still end up with 404 width:

Thurston has been on gear for YEARS and gymcels, yet he doesn't look that wide vs. some natty gymcel progress pics I've seen.

I'd estimate Thurston's bideltoid here to be MAYBE 22 inches, while Orc/Arborist claims 25+ inches as a natty who is notably lean.

What explains why roids WHICH ENHANCE progress cannot make these roiding dudes get wider, yet a natty nigga can somehow!??!!

I'M FURIOUS ABOUT THIS AND NEED AN ANSWER ASAP!!!

HOW ARE ROIDED GUYS NOT GETTING WIDER, BUT NATTIES CAN?!!!

its literally frame

orc had frame before, his before pics and after pics are just angles + flexing

thurston has wide hips

 

[Crayola CØck]

The OG looksmaxxer Astrosky took Tren to look like a tiny natty, jfl

That guy was king of the bitches.

Didn't he have a heart attack from roids too? JFL that guy is a basket case of cortisol and estrogen.

 

[Saint Casanova]

its literally frame

orc had frame before, his before pics and after pics are just angles + flexing

thurston has wide hips

Nah, all of the pictures I’ve seen of ORC, he made drastic changes to his frame; mainly through blowing up his upper back. It’s not just angles.

 

[sportsmogger]

Did you read what I said? Natties like @Orc got wider after years of gymcelling, yet enhanced dudes still end up with 404 width:

Thurston has been on gear for YEARS and gymcels, yet he doesn't look that wide vs. some natty gymcel progress pics I've seen.

I'd estimate Thurston's bideltoid here to be MAYBE 22 inches, while Orc/Arborist claims 25+ inches as a natty who is notably lean.

What explains why roids WHICH ENHANCE progress cannot make these roiding dudes get wider, yet a natty nigga can somehow!??!!

I'M FURIOUS ABOUT THIS AND NEED AN ANSWER ASAP!!!

HOW ARE ROIDED GUYS NOT GETTING WIDER, BUT NATTIES CAN?!!!

Cause that nigga Orc gatekeeps what he did, he probably blasted HGH to widen his frame hard.

 

[Saint Casanova]

That guy was king of the bitches.

Didn't he have a heart attack from roids too? JFL that guy is a basket case of cortisol and estrogen.

All I know is that he’s a lying lunatic who got surgery yet claims he changed his bone structure through mewing. No different to Syrian Psycho.

 

[Kamui]

You can’t grow bones

BBC genetics or death

 

[Saint Casanova]

You can’t grow bones

BBC genetics or death

Lots of BBCs don’t have wide frames, look at Austin Dunham. They just have good muscle bellies and insertions.

 

[Blackgymmax]

Alright let's see what you look like in a shirt. I wake up and it's the same copes

 

[Deleted member 49130]

wasnt there a frame maxxing guide in botb

 

[Crayola CØck]

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Alright let's see what you look like in a shirt. I wake up and it's the same copes

Me in a shirt:

But I'm not black or dutch so obviously I won't have any muscle as a natty.

Also wear a normal shirt, not some faggot pirate tops.

 

[Blackgymmax]

Me in a shirt:

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But I'm not black or dutch so obviously I won't have any muscle as a natty.

Also wear a normal shirt, not some faggot pirate tops.

Lifting natty was your first mistake

 

[ongongfr]

I browsed tons of SARMs before and afters, and every guy gets more toned but shoulders remain garbage, AKA they get no additional width despite gear+gymcelling.

Same with testosterone sometimes too, you see a dude become a power manlet shredded with tone but has 404 bideltoid. Why can't many guys put on width despite gear?

With the gains, why are so many guys EVEN ON GEAR still narrow and never get wider look?

Yet we have natties like @Orc who got much wider without gear.

Look at this subhuman after FIVE MONTHS of being on RAD-140:

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Still is narrower than an average teenage girl in gym class. What's up with so many roiding dudes who still look narrow as a lamp post? Why no delts?

I'd assume these gymcels hit shoulders so why can't they increase width on gear while natty gymcels sometimes do? Why can some guys get wide, others can't/don't seem to? You'd THINK roiding gymcels would get wider ALWAYS.

Is this a posture sort of thing? Why can't so many roidmaxxing dudes get truly wider, they just get more toned? NO big delts, wider back/clavs, etc.

Anyone know what the limiting factor here is for these roiders, especially since some natty gymcels get more width? If natty can, why roider can't?!

@Blackgymmax @Gaygymmaxx @Bonesbonesbonesbone @the BULL @the MOUSE @Allornothing @gymbrosarecringe @GymCellMogger8000 @GymCelNeckPill @Tyroneinprogress @Framemogger69 @bradpittshairline @enchanted_elixir @EnglandBadman @You @Kingkellz @Debetro @shodpai @CurryAscender

prental test is all taht matters, u cant change that

 

[user123456]

I browsed tons of SARMs before and afters, and every guy gets more toned but shoulders remain garbage, AKA they get no additional width despite gear+gymcelling.

Same with testosterone sometimes too, you see a dude become a power manlet shredded with tone but has 404 bideltoid. Why can't many guys put on width despite gear?

With the gains, why are so many guys EVEN ON GEAR still narrow and never get wider look?

Yet we have natties like @Orc who got much wider without gear.

Look at this subhuman after FIVE MONTHS of being on RAD-140:

View attachment 2606281


Still is narrower than an average teenage girl in gym class. What's up with so many roiding dudes who still look narrow as a lamp post? Why no delts?

I'd assume these gymcels hit shoulders so why can't they increase width on gear while natty gymcels sometimes do? Why can some guys get wide, others can't/don't seem to? You'd THINK roiding gymcels would get wider ALWAYS.

Is this a posture sort of thing? Why can't so many roidmaxxing dudes get truly wider, they just get more toned? NO big delts, wider back/clavs, etc.

Anyone know what the limiting factor here is for these roiders, especially since some natty gymcels get more width? If natty can, why roider can't?!

@Blackgymmax @Gaygymmaxx @Bonesbonesbonesbone @the BULL @the MOUSE @Allornothing @gymbrosarecringe @GymCellMogger8000 @GymCelNeckPill @Tyroneinprogress @Framemogger69 @bradpittshairline @enchanted_elixir @EnglandBadman @You @Kingkellz @Debetro @shodpai @CurryAscender

Its a mix of frame genes and traini g my grew from 21.5 to 22-23 inches range on ostarine a weaker sarm so i can keep my hair

 

[yayatourer]

That's an amazing transformation for 5 months keep coping
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I can do better natty ngl