why do some people believe in god

[Deleted member 231621]

I want proof that there is a god.
Any kind you are willing to offer.

i already did

 

[motionmantris]

If by reality you mean ideas and matter (literally substance) then god exists, he's just transcendent.

what makes u believe he or the idea of god exists in the first place?

 

[motionmantris]

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nigga just bumped his own thread 3 times can we even do that

ive heard u can do it as much as you like

 

[tunisianropemaxxer]

i already did

yeah but ur argument didnt make any sense
Are u ragebaiting

 

[Deleted member 231621]

what makes u believe he or the idea of god exists in the first place?

because if he didn't then you wont be able to think about him

 

[motionmantris]

marry her if she isn't ugly

shes mtb on the higher side of mtb btw and id love to marry her so ngl ima play the long game

 

[carbonprynt]

ive heard u can do it as much as you like

Would've been nice to know on my higher effort posts with low views

 

[redeemthecard]

I want proof that there is a god.
Any kind you are willing to offer.

I know you didn't ask me, however I do believe there is a god.

Just not in the way we were taught.

There have been thousands of religions during mankind, what makes one believe theirs IS the one and only, true religion?

I guess that makes me agnostic, in a way

 

[Deleted member 231621]

yeah but ur argument didnt make any sense
Are u ragebaiting

what do you even mean by proof? if some empirical bullshit then no cuz god is transcendent as i said before
you can prove him with logic what i just did

 

[motionmantris]

because if he didn't then you wont be able to think about him

bro thats actually the dumbest thing ever

i can imagine my "son" even tho im a teen khhv without a wife/girlfriend with no reproduction partner

 

[motionmantris]

Would've been nice to know on my higher effort posts with low views

u can still bump them bud also ths post is kinda high effort for a discussion at least

 

[VampyrMaxx]

yeah but ur argument didnt make any sense
Are u ragebaiting

Kalam cosmology argument is the best argument for God.

 

[Deleted member 231621]

bro thats actually the dumbest thing ever

i can imagine my "son" even tho im a teen khhv without a wife/girlfriend with no reproduction partner

that imagination is self-refuting though cuz materially there's no your son. you cannot imagine him as a material being as he supposed to be, so even in a thought it's impossible

 

[carbonprynt]

because if he didn't then you wont be able to think about him

There are actual niggas out there rn who think DNA, just a miniscule part of a cell, came from evolution. We dont even need to bring up the other components of a cell to prove the complexity of life.

 

[motionmantris]

I know you didn't ask me, however I do believe there is a god.

Just not in the way we were taught.

There have been thousands of religions during mankind, what makes one believe theirs IS the one and only, true religion?

I guess that makes me agnostic, in a way

go further on im interested in ur ideolgy

 

[motionmantris]

that imagination is self-refuting though cuz materially there's no your son. you cannot imagine him as a material being as he supposed to be, so even in a thought it's impossible

i can think of him hes lightskin, light brown afro hair, green shining eyes (due to his mother being swedish and thai)

 

[VampyrMaxx]

There are actual niggas out there rn who think DNA, just a miniscule part of a cell, came from evolution. We dont even need to bring up the other components of a cell to prove the complexity of life.

This is true because a chemical reaction cant cause a biochemical reaction which creates life.

But that doesnt mean God exists. Even if he does exist, then he already programmed us through nature.

JFL at thinking random schizo autistic men actually recieved guidance from God

 

[tunisianropemaxxer]

what do you even mean by proof? if some empirical bullshit then no cuz god is transcendent as i said before
you can prove him with logic what i just did

How am i expected to believe if there is no proof whatsoever,by reading some fuckass book some dumb nigger wrote in a cave cause he wanted attention?

And pls learn the difference between conceptual existence and actual existence.

 

[redeemthecard]

go further on im interested in ur ideolgy

i don't really have an ideology further expanded than what I explained

just that there is a supernatural power in some kind of way, be it a god or something else.

it is true that for something to exist it has to created, we couldn't have just *Poof* and the Earth exists.

however, I don't believe christianity/islam/buddhism/whatever religion/ to be the truth or any of the current leading religions.

out of all religions I do agree with some of christianity's morals and stuff rather than any other religion, maybe because I've grown up in a christian household.

 

[tunisianropemaxxer]

I know you didn't ask me, however I do believe there is a god.

Just not in the way we were taught.

There have been thousands of religions during mankind, what makes one believe theirs IS the one and only, true religion?

I guess that makes me agnostic, in a way

Makes you a theist

 

[Deleted member 231621]

How am i expected to believe if there is no proof whatsoever,by reading some fuckass book some dumb nigger wrote in a cave cause he wanted attention?

And pls learn the difference between conceptual existence and actual existence.

actual existence is also a concept
so actual existence by that definition is just conceptual. it's just incoherent lol

 

[motionmantris]

i don't really have an ideology further expanded than what I explained

just that there is a supernatural power in some kind of way, be it a god or something else.

it is true that for something to exist it has to created, we couldn't have just *Poof* and the Earth exists.

however, I don't believe christianity/islam/buddhism/whatever religion/ to be the truth or any of the current leading religions.

out of all religions I do agree with some of christianity's morals and stuff rather than any other religion, maybe because I've grown up in a christian household.

ohhhhhh ok yea thats pretty fair also what do think about the my idea for the girl

 

[tunisianropemaxxer]

actual existence is also a concept
so actual existence by that definition is just conceptual. it's just incoherent lol

 

[Deleted member 231621]

"i lost a debate so i need to make seem it was a ragebait"

 

[redeemthecard]

ohhhhhh ok yea thats pretty fair also what do think about the my idea for the girl

the claim that religion is cope for death? I'd say I mostly agree.

it'd be easier to convince an atheist to believe in my ideology rather than a religious person. (If that's your goal, don't force ur opinion on her)

 

[Deleted member 78797]

Fear is the biggest emotion and the biggest fear is the fear of the unknown

 

[jaaba]

ive recently talked to a foid about this and she kinda opened my eyes what she said was:

that religion is a cope for people scared of death and for the people in power to control the citizens (since they all have many rules which kind of go against what a human would do in "nature")

and i used to be very Christian so im wondering if anyone could counter this argument and make me go back to Christianity

You can’t have been very religious if hearing one foids take on it completely changed your mind

No point in trying to regain half hearted faith anyway

 

[tunisianropemaxxer]

"i lost a debate so i need to make seem it was a ragebait"

UR DEBATE IS SOF UFKING RETARDED NIGGER
"Muhh everything is a concept" then how come god is the only thing that isnt a concept?

 

[Deleted member 231621]

then how come god is the only thing that isnt a concept?

did i claim that he is not

 

[tunisianropemaxxer]

did i claim that he is not

genuine ragebait istg

 

[motionmantris]

You can’t have been very religious if hearing one foids take on it completely changed your mind

No point in trying to regain half hearted faith anyway

ig true but ive also heard the argument of relgion being used to control people and the way she explained it made me open my eyes so ye

also this one foid is lowkey a geinus soooooooo ye

 

[motionmantris]

the claim that religion is cope for death? I'd say I mostly agree.

it'd be easier to convince an atheist to believe in my ideology rather than a religious person. (If that's your goal, don't force ur opinion on her)

i dont have any plan on converting her as shes the one who converted me to not believe in god as much any more and i meant on how to attract her lol

 

[redeemthecard]

i dont have any plan on converting her as shes the one who converted me to not believe in god as much any more and i meant on how to attract her lol

oh shi idk

 

[aDifferentPerspect]

denying god is just an excuse to do degenerate stuff, imo one stops caring about morality when he stops thinking god exists

 

[Deleted member 153026]

ive recently talked to a foid about this and she kinda opened my eyes what she said was:

that religion is a cope for people scared of death and for the people in power to control the citizens (since they all have many rules which kind of go against what a human would do in "nature")

and i used to be very Christian so im wondering if anyone could counter this argument and make me go back to Christianity

Bro, that girl just gave you the 2014 /r/atheism copypasta. It felt like a blackpill because you’d never heard it said out loud before; every ex-Christian gets hit with that exact take and feels the same “whoa” moment.

Two quick reality checks:

1. “Cope for death” doesn’t prove it’s false. Atheists cope with death too (kids, legacy, SSRIs, whatever). And as NDEs and consciousness research get weirder, the “it’s just wishful thinking” line is looking shakier every year.
2. If religion was really an elite control tool, why is every elite institution today rabidly anti-Christian and pushing the opposite morals? Christianity spent 2000 years executing kings who thought they were gods and banning the exact degenerate shit the current elite want normalized.

Most importantly: the resurrection minimal facts (empty tomb + post-mortem appearances + sudden explosion of the church in the one city where it could be debunked in a weekend) are accepted by like 95 % of scholars, even the atheist ones. The naturalistic explanations all collapse when you actually read the sources. Takes 30 min to look into (Gary Habermas on YouTube). That single thing pulled me back from the same spot you’re in now.

You don’t have to larp as a churchcel tomorrow. Just don’t let a foid’s Reddit take be the final boss of your worldview. Check one serious counter-argument before you fully sign off on it. If it’s still bullshit after that, fair. But at least you’ll know you actually looked.

 

[satangoy]

ive recently talked to a foid about this and she kinda opened my eyes what she said was:

that religion is a cope for people scared of death and for the people in power to control the citizens (since they all have many rules which kind of go against what a human would do in "nature")

and i used to be very Christian so im wondering if anyone could counter this argument and make me go back to Christianity

people only believe in God when they're struggling and religion brings them comfort or they got programmed into believing and don't question out of themselves

 

[Zyylllx]

ive recently talked to a foid about this and she kinda opened my eyes what she said was:

that religion is a cope for people scared of death and for the people in power to control the citizens (since they all have many rules which kind of go against what a human would do in "nature")

and i used to be very Christian so im wondering if anyone could counter this argument and make me go back to Christianity

I think it was just to keep people in place

 

[motionmantris]

I think it was just to keep people in place

yea thats what she said

 

[motionmantris]

Bro, that girl just gave you the 2014 /r/atheism copypasta. It felt like a blackpill because you’d never heard it said out loud before; every ex-Christian gets hit with that exact take and feels the same “whoa” moment.

Two quick reality checks:

1. “Cope for death” doesn’t prove it’s false. Atheists cope with death too (kids, legacy, SSRIs, whatever). And as NDEs and consciousness research get weirder, the “it’s just wishful thinking” line is looking shakier every year.
2. If religion was really an elite control tool, why is every elite institution today rabidly anti-Christian and pushing the opposite morals? Christianity spent 2000 years executing kings who thought they were gods and banning the exact degenerate shit the current elite want normalized.

Most importantly: the resurrection minimal facts (empty tomb + post-mortem appearances + sudden explosion of the church in the one city where it could be debunked in a weekend) are accepted by like 95 % of scholars, even the atheist ones. The naturalistic explanations all collapse when you actually read the sources. Takes 30 min to look into (Gary Habermas on YouTube). That single thing pulled me back from the same spot you’re in now.

You don’t have to larp as a churchcel tomorrow. Just don’t let a foid’s Reddit take be the final boss of your worldview. Check one serious counter-argument before you fully sign off on it. If it’s still bullshit after that, fair. But at least you’ll know you actually looked.

fair but as u can see with the title of the thread i wouldn't say im fully atheist rn so i was asking for the opinion of others before i make a big move on org

 

[foidaddict]

It's the ultimate cope, has heroin levels of soothing in times of crisis

 

[motionmantris]

It's the ultimate cope, has heroin levels of soothing in times of crisis

maybe idk not sure

 

[Sandriguez]

There have been thousands of religions during mankind, what makes one believe theirs IS the one and only, true religion?

i’ll play devils advocate and tell you it’s christianity as it believes there is a god but unlike the rest god doesn’t NEED you to fill out a checklist to be saved. (not saved by works ie.)

 

[hollowlight]

ive recently talked to a foid about this and she kinda opened my eyes what she said was:

that religion is a cope for people scared of death and for the people in power to control the citizens (since they all have many rules which kind of go against what a human would do in "nature")

and i used to be very Christian so im wondering if anyone could counter this argument and make me go back to Christianity

she is right, but even if god exists, but how are u sure the religion u're following it's the right one?