why do southern europeans want to claim white.

[maplesaiyan]

it’s honestly sad how italians,spaniards, portuguese and other southern europeans love to claim themselves as white while being closer to people of the levantine region than northern europeans. just take a look at these models.

 

[Grilldaddy❤️]

Northern Italians are white and same goes for spanierds but when you go south enough they become ethnic imo

 

[soggra]

Northern Italians are white and same goes for spanierds but when you go south enough they become ethnic imo

Stop claiming us cumskin

 

[sms]

Faggot 2025cel

 

[maplesaiyan]

Northern Italians are white and same goes for spanierds but when you go south enough they become ethnic imo

while it’s true the northern Italians are more mixed with central europeans they are still genetically closer to people of the levantine region

 

[TheAncientMacedonia]

we dont
retard

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

Doesn’t really matter what they are. At the end of the day, they have the best of both worlds. Not too pale, not too dark

 

[maplesaiyan]

Faggot 2025cel

nigga willingly reps an anime profile picture in 2025

 

[silently_said]

Race is a social construct sweaty

 

[Deleted member 101500]

Its the european skull that lets spaniards claim white its very different from some mixed moroccan mutt from malaga

 

[soggra]

it’s honestly sad how italians,spaniards, portuguese and other southern europeans love to claim themselves as white while being closer to people of the levantine region than northern europeans. just take a look at these models.

It’s because they are self hating ethnics

 

[John6Enjoyer]

it’s honestly sad how italians,spaniards, portuguese and other southern europeans love to claim themselves as white while being closer to people of the levantine region than northern europeans. just take a look at these models.

They don't claim white

Maybe the quasi self-hating do

But even if they did claim white I don't see the problem

They're European + white isn't exclusive to north European/ western European

If we go by appearance alone, Russians, scnadivnians and other eastern European groups are also white

Btw south Italy mogs

 

[Deleted member 107106]

Why would they want to claim the inferior race?

 

[maplesaiyan]

They don't claim white

Maybe the quasi self-hating do

But even if they did claim white I don't see the problem

They're European + white isn't exclusive to north European/ western European

If we go by appearance alone, Russians, scnadivnians and other eastern European groups are also white

Btw south Italy mogs

the only true white people are nordics/germanics. Slavics are utter subhumans

 

[John6Enjoyer]

the only true white people are nordics/germanics. Slavics are utter subhumans

'True whites'

Bhai are we serious?

That's like saying the only true ethnics are blacks

It makes no sense

Are Hispanics, Iranians, and others exempt from it?

Btw spain and those others colonized the americas

but I'm not repping Spain tho since I'm Hispanic

latinos and moroccans are overtaking spain anyway tho so its fine

If we go by their own culture yes they're 'true whites', but south and eastern euros, just bc they have a distinct culture doesn't mean they aren't white. They are located in Europe which is home to what the modern connotation of 'white' is

Btw Germans have some of the lowest testosterone so

That was a brick

Idk how Germany having low testerone is relevant but yeah

 

[maplesaiyan]

'True whites'

Bhai are we serious?

That's like saying the only true ethnics are blacks

It makes no sense

Are Hispanics, Iranians, and others exempt from it?

Btw spain and those others colonized the americas

but I'm not repping Spain tho since I'm Hispanic

latinos and moroccans are overtaking spain anyway tho so its fine

If we go by their own culture yes they're 'true whites', but south and eastern euros, just bc they have a distinct culture doesn't mean they aren't white. They are located in Europe which is home to what the modern connotation of 'white' is

Btw Germans have some of the lowest testosterone so

That was a brick

Idk how Germany having low testerone is relevant but yeah

no that comparison falls apart because ethnic means anything non white that includes mixed race individuals, the rest of europe is cooked and mixed the only true white people are the germanics/nords

 

[John6Enjoyer]

no that comparison falls apart because ethnic means anything non white that includes mixed race individuals, the rest of europe is cooked and mixed the only true white people are the germanics/nords

What

White specifically means west and north euro?

Wrong

Equivocation fallacy bc u haven't defined what white is

South and eastern Europe are white

If u believe in hitlerism (low test ideology) then yes ur right, south euros and eastern euros aren't Aryan because Hitler hated them for some reason

But if we go by what white means and how it developed, south and east euros are white

 

[Deleted member 196670]

Closer to the Levant? Depends on the specific Southern European vs the specific Northern European vs the specific Levantine.

As a rule, with few exceptions, Southern Europeans are shifted marginally more to the Middle East than Northern Europeans.

So let's delve into that claim. Are Southern Europeans closer to Levantines than to Northern Europeans?

The answer is.................NO.........for the most part. We do have studies comparing FST values between various groups. What are FST values?

Fixation index - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

This explains it.

Let's use a specific study.

Genome-wide analysis of Corsican population reveals a close affinity with Northern and Central Italy - Scientific Reports

Despite being the fourth largest island in the Mediterranean basin, the genetic variation of Corsica has not been explored as exhaustively as Sardinia, which is situated only 11 km South. However, it is likely that the populations of the two islands shared, at least in part, similar demographic...

www.nature.com

The only "Europeans" who are consistently closer to Levantines than to Northern Europeans are Sicilians and Italians from Abruzzo. The rest are more distant. It is true that there are notable gaps between Southern Europeans and Balts, but at best, they're equidistant (that is, most Southern Europeans are about as distant from Balts as they are Levantines) and not closer.

 

[rehabcel]

Dnr south Italians mogs

 

[Deleted member 196670]

What

White specifically means west and north euro?

Wrong

Equivocation fallacy bc u haven't defined what white is

South and eastern Europe are white

If u believe in hitlerism (low test ideology) then yes ur right, south euros and eastern euros aren't Aryan because Hitler hated them for some reason

But if we go by what white means and how it developed, south and east euros are white

"White" is an ill-defined term used primarily by Anglosphere countries. Nobody in Southern Europe would use the term "white" to describe themselves. It doesn't make sense to use this vague term as a marker for an entire subcontinent (it's not even an actual continent) when we know physical traits and genetics in Europe are clinal and that borders change. The Dodecanese isn't even IN EUROPE! It is only associated with Europe because it's part of the modern Greek state. If "white" meant and was synonymous with "European" were the Dodecanese "non-white" before 1947 and then "became white" in 1947? Of course not. Their genetics haven't changed in the slightest. And let's not even get into Malta, parts of Sicily, Cyprus or various other parts of "Europe". Equating all these people is fallacious and ignores the evidence.

 

[Deleted member 196670]

Its the european skull that lets spaniards claim white its very different from some mixed moroccan mutt from malaga

There's no such thing as a "European skull".

 

[maplesaiyan]

What

White specifically means west and north euro?

Wrong

Equivocation fallacy bc u haven't defined what white is

South and eastern Europe are white

If u believe in hitlerism (low test ideology) then yes ur right, south euros and eastern euros aren't Aryan because Hitler hated them for some reason

But if we go by what white means and how it developed, south and east euros are white

slavic subs and shitskin meds will never be seen as or considered white in the eyes of us true white people. I don’t know what your goal is but let me tell you one thing, we know who we are.

 

[John6Enjoyer]

"White" is an ill-defined term used primarily by Anglosphere countries. Nobody in Southern Europe would use the term "white" to describe themselves. It doesn't make sense to use this vague term as a marker for an entire subcontinent (it's not even an actual continent) when we know physical traits and genetics in Europe are clinal and that borders change. The Dodecanese isn't even IN EUROPE! It is only associated with Europe because it's part of the modern Greek state. If "white" meant and was synonymous with "European" were the Dodecanese "non-white" before 1947 and then "became white" in 1947? Of course not. Their genetics haven't changed in the slightest. And let's not even get into Malta, parts of Sicily, Cyprus or various other parts of "Europe". Equating all these people is fallacious and ignores the evidence.

Seems like ai lol

If ur saying the anglo definition of white can't be applied to south euros and eastern euros that's pretty water

They both had different interactions throughout history and have different genetic demographics

Not equating them tho

White is supposed to be a broader term. Anglo, Iberian, Turkic, and etc. Are specific

Using taxonomical terms like genus here, they're all white

Their differentia is that they have different cultures and are different types of white people

I also don't see that Dodecanese example to be a good one

If they share the same culture and genes as Greece then they're Greek

 

[Deleted member 101500]

slavic subs and shitskin meds will never be seen as or considered white in the eyes of us true white people. I don’t know what your goal is but let me tell you one thing, we know who we are.

Listen here you little cumskin in 500 years were all gonna be mixed because of the white women flocking to mediterranean men, not turks or albanians but spanish and italians. I have perspective on both worlds due to being mixed spanish and nordic, and with my zero bias and wisdom i only tell the truth

 

[pfl]

Its almost like being white is a flex

 

[John6Enjoyer]

slavic subs and shitskin meds will never be seen as or considered white in the eyes of us true white people. I don’t know what your goal is but let me tell you one thing, we know who we are.

U know who u are as in u are limiting the term white to anglo Saxon germanic Nordic and those other regions in northern Europe and western Europe

Iberians aren't west or north europeans so they're not white by that definition

Obviously

But in the broader sense they're white

 

[maplesaiyan]

U know who u are as in u are limiting the term white to anglo Saxon germanic Nordic and those other regions in northern Europe and western Europe

Iberians aren't west or north europeans so they're not white by that definition

Obviously

But in the broader sense they're white

bro thinks the iberians were white

 

[John6Enjoyer]

bro thinks the iberians were white

Wdym were

They are white

If they aren't white then r they Moroccan

 

[maplesaiyan]

Listen here you little cumskin in 500 years were all gonna be mixed because of the white women flocking to mediterranean men, not turks or albanians but spanish and italians. I have perspective on both worlds due to being mixed spanish and nordic, and with my zero bias and wisdom i only tell the truth

mediterranean men have no smv and see us germanics as gods

 

[maplesaiyan]

Wdym were

They are white

If they aren't white then r they Moroccan

iberians arent white buddy they closely resemble those people from north africa

 

[John6Enjoyer]

iberians arent white buddy they closely resemble those people from north africa

Ur right iberians are just Arabs amazgih indians with no hook noses, slightly whiter skin, castillian language, different culture, and america colonizers

But I'm not defending them

They colonized my country

 

[maplesaiyan]

Ur right iberians are just Arabs amazgih indians with no hook noses, slightly whiter skin, castillian language, different culture, and america colonizers

But I'm not defending them

They colonized my country

where are u from

 

[John6Enjoyer]

where are u from

Dominican Republic, located in the Carribbean

That's my ethnicity

Nationality is American

 

[maplesaiyan]

Dominican Republic, located in the Carribbean

That's my ethnicity

Nationality is American

fucking kill yourself mutt

 

[soggra]

They don't claim white

Maybe the quasi self-hating do

But even if they did claim white I don't see the problem

They're European + white isn't exclusive to north European/ western European

If we go by appearance alone, Russians, scnadivnians and other eastern European groups are also white

Btw south Italy mogs

Thank god I’m around 50% southern Italian, the rest is german

 

[John6Enjoyer]

fucking kill yourself mutt

Cry baby

 

[John6Enjoyer]

fucking kill yourself mutt

Turtlecel

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

it’s honestly sad how italians,spaniards, portuguese and other southern europeans love to claim themselves as white while being closer to people of the levantine region than northern europeans. just take a look at these models.

White == status tbh. I can’t even deny it yes it’s true white race has the most media and status halo and the Jews promote them positively becuase JEWS ARE WHITE as well so if whites are viewed as this then so will Jews

 

[Jager]

it’s honestly sad how italians,spaniards, portuguese and other southern europeans love to claim themselves as white while being closer to people of the levantine region than northern europeans. just take a look at these models.

DELLISOLA MENTIONED RAHHHHHH

 

[fwhr glazer]

it’s honestly sad how italians,spaniards, portuguese and other southern europeans love to claim themselves as white while being closer to people of the levantine region than northern europeans. just take a look at these models.

Rate my white map the people under the line are not white

 

[LTNUser]

Faggot 2025cel

@CorinthianLOX this user is finally banned

 

[CorinthianLOX]

@CorinthianLOX this user is finally banned

Yeah I made a thread about it

 

[whiteegyptian]

why do europeans want to claim white, here fixed it for you

 

[whiteegyptian]

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Rate my white map the people under the line are not white

real white map

 

[fwhr glazer]

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real white map

Let the big lake in Sweden in there

 

[Lord_butler]

it’s honestly sad how italians,spaniards, portuguese and other southern europeans love to claim themselves as white while being closer to people of the levantine region than northern europeans. just take a look at these models.

because they are they're just tan

 

[Lord_butler]

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real white map

"real white" there's more blacks in the circle then outside of it

 

[whiteegyptian]

"real white" there's more blacks in the circle then outside of it

thats also exactly why they are white their said identity of whiteness and racial discrimination in the past led to flock of people from colonized nations to their countries.

 

[whiteegyptian]

Let the big lake in Sweden in there

Swedes are not brown but they arent white either.

 

[Lord_butler]

Swedes are not brown but they arent white either.

i lived in sweden for 9 months in the countryside never seen so much pure white people