Why does everyone fear monger LF3?

[Luke LLL]

Lefort 3 and lefort 1 have the same risk, and same recovery. I don’t get why everyone here is so scared of Lefort 3 and thinks that I’m joking when I say I’m getting it. You can literally go to Richardson and get it. Obviously nobody in the us will do it unless it is a very severe case. People treat lefort 3 like monobloc here.

 

[Deleted member 14848]

Lefort 3 and lefort 1 have the same risk, and same recovery. I don’t get why everyone here is so scared of Lefort 3 and thinks that I’m joking when I say I’m getting it. You can literally go to Richardson and get it. Obviously nobody in the us will do it unless it is a very severe case. People treat lefort 3 like monobloc here.

Do you have any studies to back this up?
I know that lefort I&III fractures have the same risk but what about the surgeries

 

[Luke LLL]

Do you have any studies to back this up?
I know that lefort I&III fractures have the same risk but what about the surgeries

Why would an osteotomy be any different?

 

[Deleted member 9072]

tf how does lf and lf3 have same risks?
lf3 is your whole face being opened?
and for severe deformd cases

 

[JosephGarrot123]

i actually need lf3 even my primary care doctor said I had a sunken in midface with no orbitals

 

[mulattomaxxer]

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Probably because lefort 3 is only done in severe circumstances. Apparently LF2 is the most dangerous proceedure. To my knowledge most people will only get a lefort 1 from maxfacs.

 

[Luke LLL]

tf how does lf and lf3 have same risks?
lf3 is your whole face being opened?
and for severe deformd cases

How does it not?

 

[AtlasTH]

How does it not?

Have u watch lefort 3 live?

 

[Luke LLL]

Have u watch lefort 3 live?

And how is lf1 more dangerous? You don’t know what you’re talking about.

 

[AtlasTH]

And how is lf1 more dangerous? You don’t know what you’re talking about.

And do you?

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

what is the point of lefort 3? everything goes forward so in comparison everything is still the same except your frontal cranium looks smaller. if you dont lack sagittal length what's the point? no surgeon will do ccw or cw for lef 3

 

[mulattomaxxer]

Are you seriously getting a lefort 3 with a side profile like this? I know your low inhib but this seems hard to believe that anyone would give you a LF3.

 

[theanonymousone]

Why would an osteotomy be any different?

lol if you get a lefort 3 FRACTURE you were probably in some horrible accident and got your face smashed against something hard enough to break it, probably fukking up your brain in the process, vs cutting it in a controlled environment.

 

[AtlasTH]

 

[Deleted member 7725]

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Are you seriously getting a lefort 3 with a side profile like this? I know your low inhib but this seems hard to believe that anyone would give you a LF3.

He's severely recessed, just like 99.9% of the population. Until you reach this point you're considered recessed :

 

[mulattomaxxer]

He's severely recessed, just like 99.9% of the population. Until you reach this point you're considered recessed :

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JFL at this recessed chadcel. He has probably never recieved an IOI in his life.

This side profile or death in 2021. Take the Crocodilepill. I will be performing a DIY bimax to get the results I need to ascend.

 

[Chinlet Ascension]

I'm beginning to think that Le Fort 3 is a meme. I don't know if I've ever seen a great before/after of a Le Fort 3. It's mostly for major facial injuries and deformities. Almost all of the great transformations are Le Fort 1, sometimes with some kind of modification (like rotation). Le Fort 2 is almost never performed.

 

[mulattomaxxer]

I'm beginning to think that Le Fort 3 is a meme. I don't know if I've ever seen a great before/after of a Le Fort 3. It's mostly for major facial injuries and deformities. Almost all of the great transformations are Le Fort 1, sometimes with some kind of modification (like rotation). Le Fort 2 is almost never performed.

https://looksmax.org/threads/the-normie-i-need-a-nosejob-blackpill.35471/ Look how recessed some of these guys are. They don't need lefort 3

This girl got a modified lefort 3. This is one of the best results I have seen for bimax. But look how flat her midface is before hand. Getting custom infraorbital implants is another option which should give a simillar result. Instead of bone movement you have artificial implants.

I would imagine the main advantage of implants over a midface implant is lower risk of bloodloss. Less bone will be cut. You can also have the implants removed if you don't like them. Risk of blindness is about the same but I would imagine in general surgeons would rather give you implants in comparison to a modified lefort 3.

Maybe implants are cheaper? Idk how much a modified lefort 3 is. There is basically no information on the cost of a lefort 3.

I would say getting a modified lefort 3 isn't meme tier. The majority of people here wouldn't need a full lefort 3.

 

[Deleted member 5786]

i actually need lf3 even my primary care doctor said I had a sunken in midface with no orbitals

you have scans of your skull ? feel free to pm i m genuinely curious

 

[Luke LLL]

lol if you get a lefort 3 FRACTURE you were probably in some horrible accident and got your face smashed against something hard enough to break it, probably fukking up your brain in the process, vs cutting it in a controlled environment.

Yes so if the fracture risks for 1 & 3 are the same then the osteotomy risks will be the same.

 

[Luke LLL]

what is the point of lefort 3? everything goes forward so in comparison everything is still the same except your frontal cranium looks smaller. if you dont lack sagittal length what's the point? no surgeon will do ccw or cw for lef 3

Giant implants will.

 

[theanonymousone]

Yes so if the fracture risks for 1 & 3 are the same then the osteotomy risks will be the same.

The cut is in a different place, also they literally have to peel your face off for a LeCope 3

 

[Chinlet Ascension]

This girl got a modified lefort 3. This is one of the best results I have seen for bimax. But look how flat her midface is before hand. Getting custom infraorbital implants is another option which should give a simillar result. Instead of bone movement you have artificial implants.

That's what I was talking about with a major deformity. I haven't seen any normie-to-GL transformations with Le Fort 3. That's what most people here are looking for when they consider bimax.

 

[yorak_hunt]

https://looksmax.org/threads/the-normie-i-need-a-nosejob-blackpill.35471/ Look how recessed some of these guys are. They don't need lefort 3
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This girl got a modified lefort 3. This is one of the best results I have seen for bimax. But look how flat her midface is before hand. Getting custom infraorbital implants is another option which should give a simillar result. Instead of bone movement you have artificial implants.

I would imagine the main advantage of implants over a midface implant is lower risk of bloodloss. Less bone will be cut. You can also have the implants removed if you don't like them. Risk of blindness is about the same but I would imagine in general surgeons would rather give you implants in comparison to a modified lefort 3.

Maybe implants are cheaper? Idk how much a modified lefort 3 is. There is basically no information on the cost of a lefort 3.

I would say getting a modified lefort 3 isn't meme tier. The majority of people here wouldn't need a full lefort 3.

Whats the difference between lefort 3 and modified lefort 3?

 

[RealSurgerymax]

what is the point of lefort 3? everything goes forward so in comparison everything is still the same except your frontal cranium looks smaller. if you dont lack sagittal length what's the point? no surgeon will do ccw or cw for lef 3

- facial depth
- facial features relative to eyes
- mentohyoid distance

3 things coming forward that make a big difference, even when the whole face is coming forward.

 

[Luke LLL]

- facial depth
- facial features relative to eyes
- mentohyoid distance

3 things coming forward that make a big difference, even when the whole face is coming forward.

Hi bra

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Hi bra