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Mainstream plastic surgery is commonly know mostly because of boobjobs and nosejobs. I have seen lots and lots of normie advice about some guy getting a nosejob, when its the entirety of the rest of the face what is recessed

You'd be surprised how many guys like these


get the nosejob + lose weight advice, when in reality their noses are proportionally normal in size compared to a healthy human male adul, and what they have is small orbitals, maxilla and overall jaw making the nose look bigger in comparison because the entirety of the rest of their faces is what is small. It is also an INCREDIBLY bad advice, because if you make your nose small too, you end with weird proportions like huge cranium ears and neck with a super small face, almost as bad advice as the poeple who have a recessed maxilla and get jaw surgery to bring it backwards instead of bringing the maxilla forward so they are in line. This advice is specially trown out to people with "hooked" noses. Now lets compare them to someone with an actual bigger than average (yet aesthetic) nose.

Gandy's nose is comparatively as big if not bigger than the other "nosecels", he probably nosesizemogs all of them, yet doesnt look out of place because the midface, orbitals, and jaws "surrounding" it are not shrunk. here is a fast approximation of what the top examples would need, without touching their noses in any way:


Pretty crappy morphs but you get the point. I didnt touch the nose size in any way in any of the morphs.
Suddenly their noses dont look so big. In fact in the second case it even looks like he now has a small nose.

Nose is the most commonly mistaken "bad trait" by normies, by far. If a normie tells you to get jaw surgery they are probably right. If they tell you to get eye surgery you probably got bad bug eyes, and so on. If a normie tells you to get nose surgery, lots of the times its a mistake and you need "everything else in face" surgery. This is specially important and actually only bad advice for men, since women can afford to have a more recessed jaw and just shrink their nose and be aesthetic anyways instead of having to work on the entire list of the rest of facial features.
 
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So fucking true
I've been saying this for ages, don't just focus on your nose. But, when you mouthbreathe and your face turns recessed and downswung your nose has no other option than to move along so the nose still gets affected alot (becoming downturned, more crooked than normally would etc etc)
 
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Zyros said:
Mainstream plastic surgery is commonly know mostly because of boobjobs and nosejobs. I have seen lots and lots of normie advice about some guy getting a nosejob, when its the entirety of the rest of the face what is recessed

You'd be surprised how many guys like these
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get the nosejob + lose weight advice, when in reality their noses are proportionally normal in size compared to a healthy human male adul, and what they have is small orbitals, maxilla and overall jaw making the nose look bigger in comparison because the entirety of the rest of their faces is what is small. It is also an INCREDIBLY bad advice, because if you make your nose small too, you end with weird proportions like huge cranium ears and neck with a super small face, almost as bad advice as the poeple who have a recessed maxilla and get jaw surgery to bring it backwards instead of bringing the maxilla forward so they are in line. This advice is specially trown out to people with "hooked" noses. Now lets compare them to someone with an actual bigger than average (yet aesthetic) nose.
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Gandy's nose is comparatively as big if not bigger than the other "nosecels", he probably nosesizemogs all of them, yet doesnt look out of place because the midface, orbitals, and jaws "surrounding" it are not shrunk. here is a fast approximation of what the top examples would need, without touching their noses in any way:
View attachment 96613 View attachment 96631 View attachment 96628

Pretty crappy morphs but you get the point. I didnt touch the nose size in any way in any of the morphs.
Suddenly their noses dont look so big. In fact in the second case it even looks like he now has a small nose.

Nose is the most commonly mistaken "bad trait" by normies, by far. If a normie tells you to get jaw surgery they are probably right. If they tell you to get eye surgery you probably got bad bug eyes, and so on. If a normie tells you to get nose surgery, lots of the times its a mistake and you need "everything else in face" surgery. This is specially important and actually only bad advice for men, since women can afford to have a more recessed jaw and just shrink their nose and be aesthetic anyways instead of having to work on the entire list of the rest of facial features.
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People here cope by saying it's all genetics but it's literally a fact environment plays a massive role in the final result.
 
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Lorsss said:
if recessed maxilla and mandible were genetical, evolution would have already extinguished genes that cause unattractiveness and breath problems.
Exactly.

People didn't have these problems in older times where they were breastfed more, had higher prenatal testosterone due to better environment and where they had a hard diet.
 
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What about a bulbous tip omg this is my problem i dont want to touch my nose bridge just the tip
Lorsss said:
100 years ago malocclusion didn't exist in humans, that means before industrialization all people had perfect maxilla and mandible
Industrialization happened at the beginning of the 19 century so 200 yesrs ago
 
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What if my eyes are small and my mouth is narrow while my nose is wide and big? If I get a nose job my face will be even smaller basically, but it will at least be proportional?
 
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Lorsss said:
100 years ago malocclusion didn't exist in humans, that means before industrialization all people had perfect maxilla and mandible

While its true that you see more recessed people than in past times, there are tons of very old pics or portrait paintings in which people are recessed or downward grown. I think very bad environmental practices (extreme mouth breating and bad posture) may have an influence but there are bad practicers that did soft foods and mouthbreating as children with great jaws, and good practiced with weak and recessed ones.
 
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To be fair their noses are bad too, even if it's a fact that things like recession are invisible to normies (unless they are females and looking for a sexual partner, that is.)
 
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Alarico8 said:
Gandy's nose is actually proportionally average. He just has a slight lack of maxillary protrusion.
But he doesnt reach the point of "recessed" does he? Anyways, don't you think that he looks "balanced" unlike the other nosecels? Thats what I mean.
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To be fair their noses are bad too, even if it's a fact that things like recession are invisible to normies (unless they are females and looking for a sexual partner, that is.)
That kind of recession is NOT invisible to normies. The fact that they can't pinpoint whats wrong with their faces (them recommending nosejobs) doesn't mean that the brain doesn't subconsciously pick on the recessed flaws. The "birdcel" recession type is a primary glowing bullying target actually.
 
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Yeah but not only is my nose hooked, it's kind of wide tbh. Genio and rhino would ascend mr 2/4 and side profile hard, and my normal view pretty significantly.
 
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Dope said:
Yeah but not only is my nose hooked, it's kind of wide tbh. Genio and rhino would ascend mr 2/4 and side profile hard, and my normal view pretty significantly.

Too wide nose is among the only legit few reasons to have rhino, and then again you have to be extremely careful to not fuck up your harmony. For example if you have a high FWHR thinning your nose can fuck your front view very much.
 
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Zyros said:
Too wide nose is among the only legit few reasons to have rhino, and then again you have to be extremely careful to not fuck up your harmony. For example if you have a high FWHR thinning your nose can fuck your front view very much.
High Fwhr meaning long right? I have a compact one so I may be fine. Also my 3/4 suffers a lot since the hooked nose and non existent chin make me look really strange lol
 
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Zyros said:
But he doesnt reach the point of "recessed" does he? Anyways, don't you think that he looks "balanced" unlike the other nosecels? Thats what I mean.
Not recessed, just a little weak. You can see it in how the philtrum is completely flat. But yeah it looks balanced. I think that's because the balance of the nose is more to do with the chin and the browridge than it is to do with the maxilla.
 
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Zyros said:
Too wide nose is among the only legit few reasons to have rhino, and then again you have to be extremely careful to not fuck up your harmony. For example if you have a high FWHR thinning your nose can fuck your front view very much.
And this is probably why so many rhinos go bad or have revisions too.
 
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Dope said:
High Fwhr meaning long right? I have a compact one so I may be fine. Also my 3/4 suffers a lot since the hooked nose and non existent chin make me look really strange lol
no I meam wide compact midface. Thinning nose in a compact midface may make it look unnatural if you overdo it
 
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Zyros said:
no I meam wide compact midface. Thinning nose in a compact midface may make it look unnatural if you overdo it
shit man. Do surgeons usually give morphs o the whole face along with the consultation?
 
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Dope said:
shit man. Do surgeons usually give morphs o the whole face along with the consultation?
I dunno about more invasive "knife" surferies. At least on minor procedures they don't, I did botox injections masseter reduction and they didnt provide morphs, it was a bit of a leap of faith.
 
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No, this is only your projection of what you think a common normie cope is. Any plastic surgeon would reccomend chin augmentation along with rhinoplasty to any of those subhumans above even if they only initially wanted rhino.

And the fact also remains that a rhino would still greatly benefit them all, even if they still need a lot more work. You fucking idiots are the first to throw out the words 'recessed maxilla' and 3 different extremely invasive procedures that hardly any doctors perform as if they are some holy grail.

Let them cope and get blackpilled by a surgeon and quit thinking that browsing lookism hours a day entitles you to some higher enlightenment about facial plastic surgery.
 
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Zyros said:
No ffs, eyes are supposed to be as deep set as possible, why would you want to bring them forward? forward set eyes are whats know as bug eyes, one of the worst traits.
I meant if I make my eyes deeper will it even out a big nose
 
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Legit, imo nose job is worth it ONLY to correct the mouth width to nose width ratio from the front, but even then you can just try making your mouth wider via other means instead
 
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Your thread only applies to overprojected jew like noses.

If you have a KRS-One nose, you need a rhino. No amount of jaw or maxilla can save you.
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Legit, imo nose job is worth it ONLY to correct the mouth width to nose width ratio from the front, but even then you can just try making your mouth wider via other means instead
Yeah. Make your mouth wider and get two permanent ugly ass scars at the corner of your mouth.
 
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Zyros said:
Mainstream plastic surgery is commonly know mostly because of boobjobs and nosejobs. I have seen lots and lots of normie advice about some guy getting a nosejob, when its the entirety of the rest of the face what is recessed

You'd be surprised how many guys like these
View attachment 96596 View attachment 96597 View attachment 96598

get the nosejob + lose weight advice, when in reality their noses are proportionally normal in size compared to a healthy human male adul, and what they have is small orbitals, maxilla and overall jaw making the nose look bigger in comparison because the entirety of the rest of their faces is what is small. It is also an INCREDIBLY bad advice, because if you make your nose small too, you end with weird proportions like huge cranium ears and neck with a super small face, almost as bad advice as the poeple who have a recessed maxilla and get jaw surgery to bring it backwards instead of bringing the maxilla forward so they are in line. This advice is specially trown out to people with "hooked" noses. Now lets compare them to someone with an actual bigger than average (yet aesthetic) nose.
View attachment 96604
Gandy's nose is comparatively as big if not bigger than the other "nosecels", he probably nosesizemogs all of them, yet doesnt look out of place because the midface, orbitals, and jaws "surrounding" it are not shrunk. here is a fast approximation of what the top examples would need, without touching their noses in any way:
View attachment 96613 View attachment 96631 View attachment 96628

Pretty crappy morphs but you get the point. I didnt touch the nose size in any way in any of the morphs.
Suddenly their noses dont look so big. In fact in the second case it even looks like he now has a small nose.

Nose is the most commonly mistaken "bad trait" by normies, by far. If a normie tells you to get jaw surgery they are probably right. If they tell you to get eye surgery you probably got bad bug eyes, and so on. If a normie tells you to get nose surgery, lots of the times its a mistake and you need "everything else in face" surgery. This is specially important and actually only bad advice for men, since women can afford to have a more recessed jaw and just shrink their nose and be aesthetic anyways instead of having to work on the entire list of the rest of facial features.
Recessed chin = death sentence
 
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OCDMaxxing said:
Normies are obsessed with "rhinos", "implants" and "fillers", but shiver when they hear the words "orthodontic surgery". They need to rot for their low IQ.
No, know it all teenagers who haven't been to a single plastic surgery consultation, haven't had a single plastic surgery, and get every ounce of plastic surgery knowledge from redpill sites filled with an echo chamber of the same idiots are the true fucking morons with low IQ.
 
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in my opinion shit is just not that simple. ur examples are a type of face.
some faces u can freely morph and the nose will still be giant.

there must be a gene of big noses

look at this pic of me for example, i dont think my craniu got gigantic and ridiculous after reducing the nose, in fact my nose still looks kinda big in the after, but not giga:
my maxilla seems to be high, but not forward projected. If i have recessed maxilla due to improper tongue posture, why I dont have low maxila too ? I dont know, sometimes this mewing theory and shit seems strange seeing real life examples.




I did the chin too.
 
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Eduardo DOV said:
in my opinion shit is just not that simple. ur examples are a type of face.
some faces u can freely morph and the nose will still be giant.

there must be a gene of big noses

look at this pic of me for example, i dont think my craniu got gigantic and ridiculous after reducing the nose, in fact my nose still looks kinda big in the after, but not giga:
my maxilla seems to be high, but not forward projected. If i have recessed maxilla due to improper tongue posture, why I dont have low maxila too ? I dont know, sometimes this mewing theory and shit seems strange seeing real life examples.




I did the chin too.
Nose is definitely genetics. I have my parents nose.
 
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Recessed chin = death
 
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your upper maxilla and forehead are recessed. That's why you have a hook nose
 
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It's amazing how much rhino and genio can ascend a side profile tbh. I'm getting it too, but with orbital rim and maybe parsenal implants.
 
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Dope said:
It's amazing how much rhino and genio can ascend a side profile tbh. I'm getting it too, but with orbital rim and maybe parsenal implants.
what is this orbital rim and parsenal implants?


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your upper maxilla and forehead are recessed. That's why you have a hook nose
my forehead is recessed, how can u say that withou seeing my forehead??
wtf is a recessed forehead ??
 
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Legit thread
 
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chesscel said:
fuckign caged so hard
i suppose he meant a "flat "browridge ?
mine is not.

 
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Eduardo DOV said:
what is this orbital rim and parsenal implants?



my forehead is recessed, how can u say that withou seeing my forehead??
wtf is a recessed forehead ??
orbital for negative vector and more browridge support + less upper eyelide exposure. Parsenal frauds forward growth, but I have to do more research on it.
 
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btw here's a morph of aboce pic:
 
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Balding is a useless gene that ruins most men's sex appeal to women so the point about recession not being genetic is kinda flawed since useless and crappy genes aren't f*cked out of existence (I'm not even sure if it's possible since even non balding men can have bald kids thanks to a bald great grandfather etc.)
 
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Extreme legit Zyros, here where i live especially old generation corelates uglyness with ugly nose mostly
He is ugly because he has a big nose goes hand to hand
No shit, he dont have big nose, he just forhot his jawbone somewhere- 99 percent of cases
Nosejob is very beneficial for females, but worthless for males mostly
 

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