why does everyone think forward growth= attractive

[Deleted member 16683]

whenever i look at trm posts with side profiles a lot of people have average at best faces with good orthodontic profile and it begs the question, is forward growth really correlated that much with beauty?

i have this guy here as an example

 

[mortis]

females without forward growth are absolutely disgusting looking to me. projected profile=ideal.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

That mf is tilt frauding. Not a good side profile
Not horrendous, but not forward grown

 

[blackpillerguy]

..

 

[Deleted member 16683]

That mf is tilt frauding. Not a good side profile
Not horrendous, but not forward grown

isn't this anteface

 

[Orc]

his growth is sloped downwards, forward growth mostly looks good if it's either neutral or upwards.

 

[Deleted member 19453]

whats his chin to philtrum ratio

 

[optimisticzoomer]

isn't this anteface

I edited and added his face in Frankfurt plane (not very accurately, but still)

 

[Deleted member 25794]

the ideal isn't to have the most of everything/the biggest everything, it's to be next to impossible to define and quantify

most people who have an elite feature or two will look suboptimal (even though still better than the average person, assuming no flaws that neutralize it)

 

[Deleted member 21765]

mouthbreather.

 

[LiteralCaucasian]

Comment pls

Comment

 

[blackpillerguy]

Chad face has forward growth. İts undeniable fact

 

[Deleted member 17159]

twink gets anally destroyed by fat redditors

 

[Deleted member 16683]

I edited and added his face in Frankfurt plane (not very accurately, but still)

another example here below

Chad face has forward growth. İts undeniable fact

not always. actually often there can be some recession. lucky blue smith is recessed i'm pretty sure

 

[Unhuman]

phineas and ferb

 

[Artemis]

females without forward growth are absolutely disgusting looking to me. projected profile=ideal.

I also think so BUT according to traditional beauty standards, less projected face is MORE feminine, surprisingly. Look even at the ancient statues...

Artemis, beautiful goddess of Hunt:

Aphrodite, Goddess of love, lulz:

All most beautiful females in human history have pancake faces...

 

[actual9cmjawslayer]

His nose tip is like mine. Brutally over

And to answer your stance op, no there is a weak correlation at best, so many soft tissues and lateral growth and ratios aren’t present on side profile that are everything for front.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

JFL you fucking idiot. He's downgrown tiltfrauding mouthbreather.

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

I also think so BUT according to traditional beauty standards, less projected face is MORE feminine, surprisingly. Look even at the ancient statues...

Artemis, beautiful goddess of Hunt:

Aphrodite, Goddess of love, lulz:

All most beautiful females in human history have pancake faces...

sculptors were not blackpilled back then

 

[gribsufer1]

because

 

[actual9cmjawslayer]

JFL you fucking idiot. He's downgrown tiltfrauding mouthbreather.

You do know the majority of people never mouthbreathed, right? Yet side profiles that even approach psl ideals are like 1 in a 100

 

[Deleted member 21044]

You do know the majority of people never mouthbreathed, right? Yet side profiles that even approach psl ideals are like 1 in a 100

Mouthbreather is just a buzzword i use. I mean incorrect oral and cranial posture in general, not necessarily mouthbreathing.

 

[Deleted member 16683]

JFL you fucking idiot. He's downgrown tiltfrauding mouthbreather.

you call everyone downgrown mouthbreather. i could find plenty of examples of average people with forward grown profiles on truerateme

You do know the majority of people never mouthbreathed, right? Yet side profiles that even approach psl ideals are like 1 in a 100

exactly

 

[Artemis]

sculptors were not blackpilled back then

Lol, no, They were blackpilled even more than today.

It just shows that beauty is a thing of culture, not objective truth. Just nowadays, forward growth, aka "angel skull" is being pushed a lot in the mass media. Just 40 years ago, all the most beautiful actresses had pancake faces.

 

[mortis]

I also think so BUT according to traditional beauty standards, less projected face is MORE feminine, surprisingly. Look even at the ancient statues...

Artemis, beautiful goddess of Hunt:

Aphrodite, Goddess of love, lulz:

All most beautiful females in human history have pancake faces...

Those who made these subhuman sculptures should get fired+killed in a painful unforgiving death.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

you call everyone downgrown mouthbreather. i could find plenty of examples of average people with forward grown profiles on truerateme

Go ahead. I'd be surprised tbh.

 

[Deleted member 16683]

Lol, no, They were blackpilled even more than today.

It just shows that beauty is a thing of culture, not objective truth. Just nowadays, forward growth, aka "angel skull" is being pushed a lot in the mass media. Just 40 years ago, all the most beautiful actresses had pancake faces.

perhaps they just had those sculptures show the average dentofacial growth as a representation of most women

Go ahead. I'd be surprised tbh.

i posted another one above.

 

[Artemis]

perhaps they just had those sculptures show the average dentofacial growth as a representation of most women

I don't think so. After all they made those male statues with 1-inch penises. I doubt an average Roman penis was 1 inch. It is just that at that time, big penis was not seen positively - it was a barbarian thing.

 

[Deleted member 16683]

I don't think so. After all they made those male statues with 1-inch penises. I doubt an average Roman penis was 1 inch. It is just that at that time, big penis was not seen positively - it was a barbarian thing.

but also maybe they never saw truly forward grown beautiful women and if they did it was rare maybe since they didn't have access to social media and such. personally i've always found forward grown side to be beautiful subconsciously.

 

[House Lannister]

Niggas discussing Roman penises

 

[Artemis]

but also maybe they never saw truly forward grown beautiful women and if they did it was rare maybe since they didn't have access to social media and such. personally i've always found forward grown side to be beautiful subconsciously.

Me too.

 

[Artemis]

Niggas discussing Roman penises

"Don't worry bro! It is not the size, but how you use it!"

 

[Kylo]

His front profile is well above average esp his cheekbone prominence proving forward growth is a crucial part of the equation but he’s cucked by jew nose and low averageness

 

[Deleted member 16683]

His front profile is well above average esp his cheekbone prominence proving forward growth is a crucial part of the equation but he’s cucked by jew nose and low averageness

not well above average it's average. maybe lense distortion is cucking him but he has bad harmony and his cheekbone prominence/zygos is not impressive either

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Because it generally does.

 

[Deleted member 16683]

Because it generally does.

plenty of people i see on a daily basis with forward growth are pretty average looking

 

[Deleted member 24444]

plenty of people i see on a daily basis with forward growth are pretty average looking

They lack other features

 

[Deleted member 16683]

They lack other features
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yeah cuz forward growth is one piece of the puzzle people act like it's the be all end all

 

[Deleted member 24444]

yeah cuz forward growth is one piece of the puzzle people act like it's the be all end all

 

[Deleted member 20064]

Ngl you have a valid point, his forward growth is pretty good and his side profile isn't the best.

 

[Deleted member 16683]

Ngl you have a valid point, his forward growth is pretty good and his side profile isn't the best.

i assume you mean his front profile isn't the best? i mean both are suboptimal but his side profile is pretty decent imo. front looks significantly worse

 

[Deleted member 20064]

i assume you mean his front profile isn't the best? i mean both are suboptimal but his side profile is pretty decent imo. front looks significantly worse

Well his side profile isn’t anything i’m impressed by but his forward growth is insanely good.

But yes basically i agree that you can have good forward growth but still look normie af.

 

[Deleted member 16683]

Well his side profile isn’t anything i’m impressed by but his forward growth is insanely good.

But yes basically i agree that you can have good forward growth but still look normie af.

exactly, which is why i don't agree when mewers and people like dr mew correlate attractiveness with being forward grown. it's really just a small piece of the puzzle. in fact, the majority of good looking people i see aren't even forward grown. they usually aren't recessed at least by a noticeable amount, but not very forward grown either.

 

[It'snotover]

plenty of people i see on a daily basis with forward growth are pretty average looking

That’s because they(subconsciusly) tilt their head upward due to their forward cranial posture and maybe bad airways too. Forward neck posture + head tilted upward= frauded forward growth and front is looksminned because eyes looks worse if the head is tilted up. I can say that in first person because i ALWAYS thought i was forward grown, until i realised that my neck was too much forward and that head was tilted upward. I fixed my shitty posture months ago and Now i have double chin, if bones won't remodel in 3 years i'll have to get a bsso, brutal.

 

[Deleted member 15854]

another example here below

not always. actually often there can be some recession. lucky blue smith is recessed i'm pretty sure

@UnluckyRedSmith

 

[Max Frauder]

From the front he looks deformed. His eyes are asymmetrical as hell and his nose is fucking wonky. His features & proportions are just efukt. Maybe he has a better looking brother but it never began for this nigga.

A jew nose & tilt frauding does not = forward growth. When are you femcels gonna understand this??

 

[Deleted member 16683]

From the front he looks deformed. His eyes are asymmetrical as hell and his nose is fucking wonky. His features & proportions are just efukt. Maybe he has a better looking brother but it never began for this nigga.

A jew nose & tilt frauding does not = forward growth. When are you femcels gonna understand this??

he is not recessed. and like you mentioned be gas asymmetrical prey eyes, huge nose, the list goes on. and these things are not caused by recession, which he does not have anyway

 

[Deleted member 8758]

whenever i look at trm posts with side profiles a lot of people have average at best faces with good orthodontic profile and it begs the question, is forward growth really correlated that much with beauty?

i have this guy here as an example

The critical part of foreward growth is making sure its NOT DOWNWARD SHIFTED.
If the face is downgrown but projected, the soft tissues being pulled down will negate the foreward growth and become stretched. Thats why for many people if you just pull your skin up, it reveals decent bone structure but gravity pulls it down making you look bone less.

The key is a cranial base that acts as bone support for the actual face.

 

[Deleted member 16683]

The critical part of foreward growth is making sure its NOT DOWNWARD SHIFTED.
If the face is downgrown but projected, the soft tissues being pulled down will negate the foreward growth and become stretched. Thats why for many people if you just pull your skin up, it reveals decent bone structure but gravity pulls it down making you look bone less.

The key is a cranial base that acts as bone support for the actual face.

so ccw is the key to being hot

 

[Deleted member 8758]

so ccw is the key to being hot

Somewhat, but its only treating the symptom instead of the root cause (shitty sphenoid angle.)