Why does god need us?

[captain steve]

why would he make us, especially if he already knows whats going to happen.

give us free will, but punish us with eternal punishment when we use it.

The whole idea is making me feel lives my lifes purpose is to entertain god's bordem.

Why do we need to exist, and why does god exist (assuming hes real)?

@buccalfatremoval @LXR @BigBallsLarry @emeraldglass

 

[AgentAngularity]

Give your life to god and stop sinning maybe? Idiot

 

[captain steve]

not to mention all the innocent children that died from all the natrual disasters that were caused by him (not free will)

 

[Mogs Me]

How god looks at niggas who did everything he asked for them to do consistently for 70+ years before sending them to hell because it wasn’t genuine

 

[captain steve]

Give your life to god and stop sinning maybe? Idiot

i dont identify with any religon.

 

[foxhead131]

why would he make us, especially if he already knows whats going to happen.

give us free will, but punish us with eternal punishment when we use it.

The whole idea is making me feel lives my lifes purpose is to entertain god.
@buccalfatremoval @LXR @BigBallsLarry

he created us because he was bored

 

[AgentAngularity]

i dont identify with any religon.

Well you should stop sinning and give your life to God so it has a purpose.

 

[captain steve]

Well you should stop sinning and give your life to God so it has a purpose.

give proof of gods existance first, then prove which type of god is real, then prove which interpretation of the type is right.

 

[captain steve]

@EthiopianMaxxer

 

[AgentAngularity]

give proof of gods existance first, then prove which type of god is real, then prove which interpretation of the type is real

I will get back to you when I feel like it

 

[peter1287]

God when the atrocities like the holocaust and millions of kids from cancer each day

 

[captain steve]

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God when the atrocities like the holocaust and millions of kids from cancer each day

inb4 the free will arguments
@Mogs Me

 

[peter1287]

inb4 the free will arguments
@Mogs Me

getting cancer isnt free will Jfl, no one has the choice to get cancer or not

 

[captain steve]

getting cancer isnt free will Jfl, no one has the choice to get cancer or not

you didnt get the joke bro

 

[peter1287]

you didnt get the joke bro

yeah no I know it’s a joke

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

not to mention all the innocent children that died from all the natrual disasters that were caused by him (not free will)

they weren't caused by him

 

[{Vesper}]

It gets harder and harder to believe each day it’s only easy to believe when everything is perfect. Starting to feel like more of a fantasy

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

getting cancer isnt free will

it literally is free will

no one has the choice to get cancer or not

that's like saying if i punched you in the face, it wasn't free will because you didn't choose to be punched

 

[captain steve]

they weren't caused by him

in islam:
The Great Flood
The People of Lut
The Nations of 'Ad and Thamud

In christianity:

all for not beleiving in him

 

[peter1287]

it literally is free will

that's like saying if i punched you in the face, it wasn't free will because you didn't choose to be punched

Free will is the ability to make your own choices, and be able to control your actions. There’s no action you can do thats gonna give you cancer, cancer is given to you no matter your choices, you proved my point with the punched argument

 

[captain steve]

it literally is free will

how is getting cancer free will? i never met someone who decided on there own that they wanted cancer

 

[Deleted member 294601]

the demiurge rules the earth

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

in islam:
The Great Flood
The People of Lut
The Nations of 'Ad and Thamud

In christianity:
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all for not beleiving in him

if an 'innocent' person were to die in a natural disaster, then assuming god exists, the natural disaster was not created by god

Free will is the ability to make your own choices, and be able to control your actions. There’s no action you can do thats gonna give you cancer, cancer is given to you no matter your choices, you proved my point with the punched argument

how did i prove your point with the punching argument? explain
and your definition does not disprove that cancer isn't ultimately caused by free will

how is getting cancer free will? i never met someone who decided on there own that they wanted cancer

do you agree that if i punched you in the face, then that is ultimately a result of free will?

if so, you'd be forced to agree that cancer is also ultimately a result of free will

 

[captain steve]

@iblamexyz

 

[peter1287]

do you agree that if i punched you in the face, then that is ultimately a result of free will?

Not my free will, someone made that decision for me, proving my cancer argument

 

[peter1287]

if an 'innocent' person were to die in a natural disaster, then assuming god exists, the natural disaster was not created by god


how did i prove your point with the punching argument? explain
and your definition does not disprove that cancer isn't ultimately caused by free will


do you agree that if i punched you in the face, then that is ultimately a result of free will?

if so, you'd be forced to agree that cancer is also ultimately a result of free will

Free will is the ability to dictate your actions correct? Who dictated for a little kid to have cancer?

 

[captain steve]

if an 'innocent' person were to die in a natural disaster, then assuming god exists, the natural disaster was not created by god

god commanded the natural disasters were children who were unknowledgeable and innocent suffered

if so, you'd be forced to agree that cancer is also ultimately a result of free will

you punching me in the face is free will, you didnt have to punch me. cancer isn't though (at least at the moment) no one chooses to get cancer, but someone chooses to punch me.

 

[captain steve]

@Jason Voorhees @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Hernan @Gengar’s Ghost

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

Not my free will, someone made that decision for me, proving my cancer argument

dude, what are you talking about. free will doesn't mean you can control everything done to you. you can control your own actions but not other peoples'; that would literally be a contradiction to free will.

you punching me in the face is free will, you didnt have to punch me. cancer isn't though (at least at the moment) no one chooses to get cancer, but someone chooses to punch me.

someone's actions ultimately led to you getting cancer. they may not have intended it, but it was caused by their actions. this is analogous to someone punching you in the face

Free will is the ability to dictate your actions correct? Who dictated for a little kid to have cancer?

their ancestors, of course.

cancer is not a "natural" disease, it didn't just spawn from the dawn of time. it was unintendedly created by humans. there was no such thing as cancer 500 thousand years ago

 

[captain steve]

someone's actions ultimately led to you getting cancer. they may not have intended it, but it was caused by their actions. this is analogous to someone punching you in the face

then how do you explain the diseases that occured from nature? It has to originate from something, why would a all loving god create illnesses if he knows how much it would make people suffer.

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

then how do you explain the diseases that occured from nature? It has to originate from something, why would a all loving god create illnesses if he knows how much it would make people suffer.

you have to remember that people dying in natural disasters are also ultimately a result of free will as crazy as it sounds

im not saying that the natural disaster itself is free will, that would be stupid. but people dying from natural disasters are from the unfortunate circumstances of their free will

im probably not going to be able to reply to your next response since im in class rn and my laptop is 4%. we had a good discussion tho

 

[captain steve]

you have to remember that people dying in natural disasters are also ultimately a result of free will as crazy as it sounds

im not saying that the natural disaster itself is free will, that would be stupid. but people dying from natural disasters are from the unfortunate circumstances of their free will

im probably not going to be able to reply to your next response since im in class rn and my laptop is 4%. we had a good discussion tho

can you elab more onto it when you get home?

@Gargantuan @L1mbal @Orka @Insomnia @BigBallsLarry

 

[Swarthy Knight]

you have to remember that people dying in natural disasters are also ultimately a result of free will as crazy as it sounds

im not saying that the natural disaster itself is free will, that would be stupid. but people dying from natural disasters are from the unfortunate circumstances of their free will

im probably not going to be able to reply to your next response since im in class rn and my laptop is 4%. we had a good discussion tho

What about kids born with congenital diseases, kids who get cancer, etc

 

[peter1287]

dude, what are you talking about. free will doesn't mean you can control everything done to you. you can control your own actions but not other peoples'; that would literally be a contradiction to free will.

someone's actions ultimately led to you getting cancer. they may not have intended it, but it was caused by their actions. this is analogous to someone punching you in the face

their ancestors, of course.

cancer is not a "natural" disease, it didn't just spawn from the dawn of time. it was unintendedly created by humans. there was no such thing as cancer 500 thousand years ago

So your saying you getting cancer is someone else’s fault thats not free will then, if everyone had free will, I’d get rid of cancer, but I can’t because I don’t have free will

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

What about kids born with congenital diseases, kids who get cancer, etc

read my previous responses

So your saying you getting cancer is someone else’s fault

yes, how is this so hard to understand

thats not free will then, if everyone had free will, I’d get rid of cancer, but I can’t because I don’t have free will

are you purposely being disingenuous lol. free will doesn't mean you literally have the will to do anything in the universe. all it means is that you have the ability to make choices and control your own actions

 

[IOS]

why would he make us, especially if he already knows whats going to happen.

give us free will, but punish us with eternal punishment when we use it.

The whole idea is making me feel lives my lifes purpose is to entertain god's bordem.

Why do we need to exist, and why does god exist (assuming hes real)?

@buccalfatremoval @LXR @BigBallsLarry @emeraldglass

if god exists why he let people rape women

 

[stigmaboy]

mewing_god69 has a point about the demiurge. it's a simpler explanation for evil than trying to twist free will into everything.

 

[freeshavacadoo]

Why did the greek gods exist? Why did norse paganism exist? for the same reason Christianity exists, its a coping mechanism. I still respect the hell out of it though.

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

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God when the atrocities like the holocaust and millions of kids from cancer each day

Holocaust never happened. It's a Jewish fairytale.

 

[Insomnia]

I mean, comparing a god to a human is not that different from comparing a human to an ant. An ant doesn’t know a human’s motives because it lacks the sentience and intelligence of a human.

I’m not religious so I can’t really answer your question from a religious standpoint

 

[irrumator praetor]

but punish us with eternal punishment when we are not WASPs

 

[Jesus_ist_König]

Dnr he doesn’t need us? Us praying to him is for our benefit. He has no necessity for us

 

[captain steve]

Dnr he doesn’t need us? Us praying to him is for our benefit. He has no necessity for us

how do you know if god is real?

 

[captain steve]

Dnr he doesn’t need us? Us praying to him is for our benefit. He has no necessity for us

and why else would he create us, it seems he uses us for his own entertainment.

 

[captain steve]

@ascension @isis_Bleach @registerfasterusing i need your takes on this

 

[isis_Bleach]

@ascension @isis_Bleach @registerfasterusing i need your takes on this

Who are you alt of

 

[ascension]

@ascension @isis_Bleach @registerfasterusing i need your takes on this

Ion know, but God's given me a tough ass life I'll tell ya that

 

[captain steve]

Who are you alt of

you wont know me

 

[isis_Bleach]

Because Satan thought he was better than God and rebelled but God let Satan do that so that people could see for themselves that good is better than evil
Something like this
In reality it’s because God isn’t real and this life is a shit hole on a dying rock

 

[krieg]

God after a 3 year old dies

It’s okay since it’s gonna teach him a lesson