Why does .org love to hate on Anavar?

[ssxjdgh]

Great pre workout
Nice gains
Great pumps
Nice veins
Nice look
Nice strength
Nice fat loss
No side effects

It does everything fairly well and is very well tolerated. Very 'Looksmaxxing'steroid. But on here it's hated on.


Anavar is nice mmkay

 

[nik.077]

Nice gains

meh

 

[nik.077]

Nice fat loss

No side effects

 

[ssxjdgh]

meh

You disagree?

 

[ssxjdgh]

Imgur is banned in UK jfl

 

[stormulfr]

Great pre workout
Nice gains
Great pumps
Nice veins
Nice look
Nice strength
Nice fat loss
No side effects

It does everything fairly well and is very well tolerated. Very 'Looksmaxxing'steroid. But on here it's hated on.


Anavar is nice mmkay

i’d rather stay natty and get ripped the hard way. Not because Anavar “does nothing,” but because shortcuts always come with trade offs. Even if it’s considered one of the “milder” orals, it still suppresses natural testosterone, messes with lipids HDL tanks, LDL goes up stresses your liver, and can affect blood pressure No side effects isn’t real it’s just that some people don’t notice them until bloodwork says otherwise. Being natty forces you to actually dial in training, diet, sleep, and consistency. The discipline you build stays with you. When you come off gear, your hormones crash, strength drops, and a lot of the look fades unless you keep cycling. Natty progress might be slower, but it’s stable and sustainable. Plus, if you can build a lean, aesthetic physique without PEDs, that’s 100% you no dependency, no shutdown, no longterm health gamble. In the long run, health quick pumps.

 

[BR32]

Its a mediocre steroid

It isn't good for building muscle which is the main function of a steroid

Its only legitimate application is in cosmetic contexts.

Not hating on the use its just not a day to day roid

 

[ssxjdgh]

i’d rather stay natty and get ripped the hard way. Not because Anavar “does nothing,” but because shortcuts always come with trade offs. Even if it’s considered one of the “milder” orals, it still suppresses natural testosterone, messes with lipids HDL tanks, LDL goes up stresses your liver, and can affect blood pressure No side effects isn’t real it’s just that some people don’t notice them until bloodwork says otherwise. Being natty forces you to actually dial in training, diet, sleep, and consistency. The discipline you build stays with you. When you come off gear, your hormones crash, strength drops, and a lot of the look fades unless you keep cycling. Natty progress might be slower, but it’s stable and sustainable. Plus, if you can build a lean, aesthetic physique without PEDs, that’s 100% you no dependency, no shutdown, no longterm health gamble. In the long run, health quick pumps.

Agreed but why waste time being natty?You still retain some of the gains even if you come off.

Its a mediocre steroid

It isn't good for building muscle which is the main function of a steroid

Its only legitimate application is in cosmetic contexts.

Not hating on the use its just not a day to day roid

The pumps, extra strength and anabolism do build some muscle. May not be crazy amount like other orals but it's not too bad

 

[BR32]

Agreed but why waste time being natty?You still retain some of the gains even if you come off.



The pumps, extra strength and anabolism do build some muscle. May not be crazy amount like other orals but it's not too bad

Pumps don't build muscle, neither does increased strength derived from neural adaptations and oral androgens, its def still anabolic its just totally non optimal if your goal is long term tissue accrual+health and longevity.

Why would you do var over test

 

[aids]

i’d rather stay natty and get ripped the hard way. Not because Anavar “does nothing,” but because shortcuts always come with trade offs. Even if it’s considered one of the “milder” orals, it still suppresses natural testosterone, messes with lipids HDL tanks, LDL goes up stresses your liver, and can affect blood pressure No side effects isn’t real it’s just that some people don’t notice them until bloodwork says otherwise. Being natty forces you to actually dial in training, diet, sleep, and consistency. The discipline you build stays with you. When you come off gear, your hormones crash, strength drops, and a lot of the look fades unless you keep cycling. Natty progress might be slower, but it’s stable and sustainable. Plus, if you can build a lean, aesthetic physique without PEDs, that’s 100% you no dependency, no shutdown, no longterm health gamble. In the long run, health quick pumps.

"Write a response to this post with my grammatical conventions".

 

[aids]

Pumps don't build muscle, neither does increased strength derived from neural adaptations and oral androgens, its def still anabolic its just totally non optimal if your goal is long term tissue accrual+health and longevity.

Why would you do var over test

OP knew nothing about var like a day ago when I asked him to clarify what it does btw.
You can chalk this up to some pseudointellectual that did superficial research and thought he could argue for anavar as the perfect oral.

 

[sadcel]

Great pre workout
Nice gains
Great pumps
Nice veins
Nice look
Nice strength
Nice fat loss
No side effects

It does everything fairly well and is very well tolerated. Very 'Looksmaxxing'steroid. But on here it's hated on.


Anavar is nice mmkay

Liver toxicity I guess

 

[Nectar]

Because it’s high T

 

[Deleted member 126862]

Its good, but just for the cosmetic look. Dont build muscle, tanks liver and health.

Dbol/anadrol is way better as oral steroid then anavar.

 

[BR32]

OP knew nothing about var like a day ago when I asked him to clarify what it does btw.
You can chalk this up to some pseudointellectual that did superficial research and thought he could argue for anavar as the perfect oral.

I figured as much.

I have nothing against anavar or even orals generally but they have no appilcation for most of us.

I was talking to someone yesterday promoting a dianabol+enclomiphene cycle.

 

[BR32]

Its good, but just for the cosmetic look. Dont build muscle, tanks liver and health.

Dbol/anadrol is way better as oral steroid then anavar.

dbol in the big 26

 

[chromomatic]

Oral var is shit injected I personally like it as a compound but not for day to day/cycle use only aesthetics

 

[chromomatic]

I figured as much.

I have nothing against anavar or even orals generally but they have no appilcation for most of us.

I was talking to someone yesterday promoting a dianabol+enclomiphene cycle.

That guy was just a fucking idiot

 

[BR32]

That guy was just a fucking idiot

This is true

 

[aids]

I figured as much.

I have nothing against anavar or even orals generally but they have no appilcation for most of us.

I was talking to someone yesterday promoting a dianabol+enclomiphene cycle.

See, I feel like these guys see a small bit of discourse about such a cycle and decide to do absolutely no follow-up research, instead trusting the outdated anecdotes/opinions of meatheads that they found posting on Reddit.
Orals only or Orals/Enclo, SARMs/Enclo, etc., are meme cycles made by self-proclaimed pioneers that try to justify their inferior stack because of super niche reasoning.

Only DHT derivative I plan to run is Halotestin for its impacts on performance output. If you want to look dry/lean, then just be low BF%. I think all others are redundant.

 

[ssxjdgh]

Pumps don't build muscle, neither does increased strength derived from neural adaptations and oral androgens, its def still anabolic its just totally non optimal if your goal is long term tissue accrual+health and longevity.

Why would you do var over test

It's not about choosing var over test or other compounds. It's about why wouldn't you take it when it's objectively more well rounded and yes mild

 

[ssxjdgh]

OP knew nothing about var like a day ago when I asked him to clarify what it does btw.
You can chalk this up to some pseudointellectual that did superficial research and thought he could argue for anavar as the perfect oral.

Wrong. I said tell me why you shouldn't take it and you couldn't even say

 

[aids]

It's not about choosing var over test or other compounds. It's about why wouldn't you take it when it's objectively more well rounded and yes mild

Your justification for taking something should never be that it is mild, at least solely.
That's comparable to taking Methyltrienolone because it's (one of) the most potent AAS to exist. You can yourself understand that there is no/very little use case for Mtren even if it's strong.

Wrong. I said tell me why you shouldn't take it and you couldn't even say

I'm going to pull up the chats and embarrass you, give me 2 minutes.

 

[aids]

https://looksmax.org/threads/bored-ask-me-questions-pertaining-to-looksmaxing-ill-give-you-my-best-answer.1870064/post-26187825

https://looksmax.org/threads/bored-ask-me-questions-pertaining-to-looksmaxing-ill-give-you-my-best-answer.1870064/post-26187871

 

[ssxjdgh]

orals generally but they have no appilcation for most of us.

Except orals work and there's no real reason why you shouldn't use them

 

[ssxjdgh]

https://looksmax.org/threads/bored-ask-me-questions-pertaining-to-looksmaxing-ill-give-you-my-best-answer.1870064/post-26187825

https://looksmax.org/threads/bored-ask-me-questions-pertaining-to-looksmaxing-ill-give-you-my-best-answer.1870064/post-26187871

And I said to you it works

 

[BR32]

Except orals work and there's no real reason why you shouldn't use them

Are you familiar with hepatotoxicity?

 

[ssxjdgh]

Are you familiar with hepatotoxicity?

Blown out of proportion side effect

 

[BR32]

See, I feel like these guys see a small bit of discourse about such a cycle and decide to do absolutely no follow-up research, instead trusting the outdated anecdotes/opinions of meatheads that they found posting on Reddit.
Orals only or Orals/Enclo, SARMs/Enclo, etc., are meme cycles made by self-proclaimed pioneers that try to justify their inferior stack because of super niche reasoning.

Accurate assessment, if these drugs had functional applications then they would be used in clinical applications. Sarms in general are so shit I will never understand why people take them. They aren't even selective lol.

Only DHT derivative I plan to run is Halotestin for its impacts on performance output. If you want to look dry/lean, then just be low BF%. I think all others are redundant.

What is your plan w halo? I've only really heard about its application in bodybuilding contexts but I would assume the strength gains are something crazy.

I was toying with the idea of mast for a while but I gotta do more reading about test->dht conversion within hair follicles. I'm not totally convinced that mast w low-mod test is fine.

Your thoughts?

Maybe I'm just retarded and Todd Lee has warped my brain

 

[BR32]

Blown out of proportion side effect

injectables aren't hepatotoxic, are more bioavailable, and are cheaper

 

[aids]

What is your plan w halo? I've only really heard about its application in bodybuilding contexts but I would assume the strength gains are something crazy.

Other athletic endeavours.
I don't know about chronic impact of Halo on strength, rather acute from its binding to androgen receptors in the CNS.

I was toying with the idea of mast for a while but I gotta do more reading about test->dht conversion within hair follicles. I'm not totally convinced that mast w low-mod test is fine.

I'm increasingly against the use of pharmaceuticals for acute impacts on appearance. I hardly use diuretics anymore.

 

[BR32]

Other athletic endeavours.
I don't know about chronic impact of Halo on strength, rather acute from its binding to androgen receptors in the CNS.

Oh you sprint right? I gotta see a doped up Aids drop a 100. Whats your peak natty time?

I used to swim competitively ( like 8 months ago lol) but tore my labrum. Once I'm healed up fully I'm trying to dope up and get the 50 Fly Olympic Trials cut.

I'm increasingly against the use of pharmaceuticals for acute impacts on appearance. I hardly use diuretics anymore.

Thats a good stance tbh, I see myself becoming more and more longevity focused already.

My own insecurities drive the compound use though, I struggle to detach the ego.

 

[Chad]

Var is the biggest AAS meme.

Negligible anabolism, eviscerated lipids. What do you get in return? Some hardness. Maybe some mid section lipolysis. “hair safe” whatever the fuck that means is also a misconception unless you use RU.

 

[ssxjdgh]

Var is the biggest AAS meme.

Negligible anabolism, eviscerated lipids. What do you get in return? Some hardness. Maybe some mid section lipolysis. “hair safe” is also a misconception unless you use RU.

What oral do you recommend then? Please don't say "just test"

 

[aids]

Oh you sprint right? I gotta see a doped up Aids drop a 100. Whats your peak natty time?

True natty would've been probably 15 or so and I don't even remember that, probably in the low 12s. I don't sprint anymore but want to get back into it.

I used to swim competitively ( like 8 months ago lol) but tore my labrum. Once I'm healed up fully I'm trying to dope up and get the 50 Fly Olympic Trials cut.

Mogs. Plan for not getting done for doping?

Thats a good stance tbh, I see myself becoming more and more longevity focused already.

Good.

My own insecurities drive the compound use though, I struggle to detach the ego.

Was the same issue for me with furosemide, I ended up taking basically 60mg+ every day I'd go to uni. Then I realised I don't really give a fuck about the people around me so why bother for their opinions.

 

[aids]

What oral do you recommend then? Please don't say "just test"

Your reasoning is completely arbitrary. You need an oral because it's an oral and therefore it's different? JFL

 

[BR32]

True natty would've been probably 15 or so and I don't even remember that, probably in the low 12s. I don't sprint anymore but want to get back into it.

Gotchu, It'll be way more fun enhanced lol

Mogs. Plan for not getting done for doping?

USA Swimming is shit at drug testing. They barely test anyone and I'm not fast enough to the point I would ever get tested. They barely even test for the olympic caliber athletes.

Good.

Was the same issue for me with furosemide, I ended up taking basically 60mg+ every day I'd go to uni. Then I realised I don't really give a fuck about the people around me so why bother for their opinions.

It's a freeing moment when you realize that other peoples opinions are only relevant if you let them be relevant.

 

[SideDeltGod]

Var is the biggest AAS meme.

Negligible anabolism, eviscerated lipids. What do you get in return? Some hardness. Maybe some mid section lipolysis. “hair safe” whatever the fuck that means is also a misconception unless you use RU.

collagen synthesis

 

[ssxjdgh]

Your reasoning is completely arbitrary. You need an oral because it's an oral and therefore it's different? JFL

There is no 'cost' for adding it. Only benefits.

 

[primalmaxer]

Your reasoning is completely arbitrary. You need an oral because it's an oral and therefore it's different? JFL

Do you like short esters, and whats your thoguht on daily pins?

 

[Zagro]

i’d rather stay natty and get ripped the hard way. Not because Anavar “does nothing,” but because shortcuts always come with trade offs. Even if it’s considered one of the “milder” orals, it still suppresses natural testosterone, messes with lipids HDL tanks, LDL goes up stresses your liver, and can affect blood pressure No side effects isn’t real it’s just that some people don’t notice them until bloodwork says otherwise. Being natty forces you to actually dial in training, diet, sleep, and consistency. The discipline you build stays with you. When you come off gear, your hormones crash, strength drops, and a lot of the look fades unless you keep cycling. Natty progress might be slower, but it’s stable and sustainable. Plus, if you can build a lean, aesthetic physique without PEDs, that’s 100% you no dependency, no shutdown, no longterm health gamble. In the long run, health quick pumps.

Shut the fuck up faggot

 

[aids]

collagen synthesis

JFL @Orka
https://looksmax.org/threads/if-you...oney-dont-start-a-cycle.1864698/post-26123219

 

[Orka]

JFL @Orka
https://looksmax.org/threads/if-you...oney-dont-start-a-cycle.1864698/post-26123219

ur too powerful, it's difficult for people to disagree with somebody as charismatic as you

 

[stormulfr]

Shut the fuck up faggot

I'm just better than you.

 

[India lover 52]

What oral do you recommend then? Please don't say "just test"

you dont need a oral just add in another injectable or up your test dose theres 0 reason to take an oral unless you need an acute performance spike for some reason

 

[BR32]

JFL @Orka
https://looksmax.org/threads/if-you...oney-dont-start-a-cycle.1864698/post-26123219

I'm cryin man bro thinks var is deca

 

[Zagro]

I'm just better than you.

OMG you’re natural!!! No one gives a fuck bro every single one of your idols are enhanced

 

[ssxjdgh]

OMG you’re natural!!! No one gives a fuck bro every single one of your idols are enhanced

True but PSL gods aren't

 

[birthdefect]

Only DHT derivative I plan to run is Halotestin

isnt halo a methyltestosterone derivative?

 

[birthdefect]

True but PSL gods aren't

they dont need to be, they compensate with face