Why does the average gook look like this?

[TheGreatDetective]

Muh preferences but then in real world dating gooks have less success than MENA/curry populations

Muh theories when I've posted the average gook side profile before


It's funny when I search up ''asian side profile'' the first results that pop up are panfaced prognathous gooks

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@TheGreatDetective @ltnbrownacnecel

You should make a thread about asian kids with Down syndrome vs normal Asian kids to see if people can tell them apart

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

First of all, I'm well aware. But those stats are years old and worse off, during the worst looking generation of gooks.

Again, That doesn't really do anything. It is by all definitions a theory given it has Reasoning but no evidence.

I just gave you evidence blud

OkCupid and facebook studies show higher preferences towards MENA men (I didn't do curries but it would probably be similar)
And lower preferences towards East Asian men

And the real world results speak for themselves

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

You should make a thread about asian kids with Down syndrome vs normal Asian kids to see if people can tell them apart

Great idea tbh

I'll call it SPOT THE DIFFERENCE (GOOK EDITION)

 

[ltnbrownacnecel]

Again , no doubt that MENA/Indians have higher ceilings, but that doesn't matter in SMV.

How does that not matter? Average indian and gook has 0 smv maybe mena have a bit higher but a gl indian/mena will outslay gl gooks.

 

[shngstaaaa107]

I just gave you evidence blud
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OkCupid and facebook studies show higher preferences towards MENA men (I didn't do curries but it would probably be similar)
And lower preferences towards East Asian men

And the real world results speak for themselves

YES and my evidence directly argues against that

Im saying that when two good pieces of evidence are fighting as they are, it is hard to get an exact result on SMV. Again , SMV, not actual dating. We've been talking about SMV the entirety of these last few threads. I don't even disagree on you with your real world data, I only think there's some caveats to it.

BTW , regarding Indians.

 

[shngstaaaa107]

How does that not matter? Average indian and gook has 0 smv maybe mena have a bit higher but a gl indian/mena will outslay gl gooks.

Imagine 2 people of the same level attractiveness, objectively and completely. The SMV and the way one man is perceived elevates him above the other. That is where SMV matters. My study shows that when only thinking about race (you disregard real world examples of ugly gooks and brownoids), women will end up preferring gooks over MENA and Indians. SMV, NOT ATTRACTIVENESS CEILING.

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

YES and my evidence directly argues against that

Im saying that when two good pieces of evidence are fighting as they are, it is hard to get an exact result on SMV. Again , SMV, not actual dating. We've been talking about SMV the entirety of these last few threads. I don't even disagree on you with your real world data, I only think there's some caveats to it.

BTW , regarding Indians.

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MUH SMV MUH THEORY


AND THEN IRL GOOKS GET NOTHING

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

preferring gooks over MENA and Indians.

This is not true at all

There is no reason for this to be true and there is every reason for this to be untrue

 

[shngstaaaa107]

MUH SMV MUH THEORY


AND THEN IRL GOOKS GET NOTHING

So you admit you're wrong

JFL I've never disagreed with you on "IRL GOOKS GET NOTHING"

Indeed, in most studies for 2010s this is true. Why are you trying to argue something Ive never said was false?

 

[shngstaaaa107]

This is not true at all

There is no reason for this to be true and there is every reason for this to be untrue

Oh yeah because you say it is the graph I provided is suddenly gone? Are you retarded? You are a genuine idiot

This is actual cope to the highest degree

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

So you admit you're wrong

JFL I've never disagreed with you on "IRL GOOKS GET NOTHING"

Indeed, in most studies for 2010s this is true. Why are you trying to argue something Ive never said was false?

Explain how MENAS/Indians have less SMV than gooks

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

Oh yeah because you say it is the graph I provided is suddenly gone? Are you retarded? You are a genuine idiot

This is actual cope to the highest degree

The data I provided says the opposite

 

[ltnbrownacnecel]

Imagine 2 people of the same level attractiveness, objectively and completely. The SMV and the way one man is perceived elevates him above the other. That is where SMV matters. My study shows that when only thinking about race (you disregard real world examples of ugly gooks and brownoids), women will end up preferring gooks over MENA and Indians. SMV, NOT ATTRACTIVENESS CEILING.

If those 2 people are objectively the same level of attractiveness and all other factors are equal like how they not have the same smv? Indians and mena are better looking on average and higher ceiling for looks so there smv is better.

 

[shngstaaaa107]

Explain how MENAS/Indians have less SMV than gooks

The data I provided says the opposite

Source. I stated it. I showed it. SMV.

Your sources are for IRL dating. I explained this already. Again, I don't disagree the MENA/Indians will probably bag/slay more often by slight amounts.

 

[shngstaaaa107]

If those 2 people are objectively the same level of attractiveness and all other factors are equal like how they not have the same smv? Indians and mena are better looking on average and higher ceiling for looks so there smv is better.

Attractiveness is the same. The way people view your race and you in general is certainly not.

SMV is simply how people view you regardless of your attractiveness. Your market value + your base (face and body)

 

[ltnbrownacnecel]

Attractiveness is the same. The way people view your race and you in general is certainly not.

SMV is simply how people view you regardless of your attractiveness. Your market value + your base (face and body)

No lol smv is ur desirability to women mainly from ur face, since gooks have the worst faces by far and sub par height they are the lowest smv.

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

Source. I stated it. I showed it. SMV.

Your sources are for IRL dating. I explained this already. Again, I don't disagree the MENA/Indians will probably bag/slay more often by slight amounts.

Ok so MENA/curries have better dating and slaying opportunities with women u just admitted

So how do they not have higher SMV than gooks?

 

[shngstaaaa107]

Ok so MENA/curries have better dating and slaying opportunities with women u just admitted

So how do they not have higher SMV than gooks?

Its simple. Women prefer Asians to them by statistics. Its because while gooks can maintain being high earners, their race is also viewed as pretty docile but also not exactly masculine.

However, after 2000, MENA have been portrayed as terrorists and horrible people by US politics, basically just Islamic rapists and killers, as have all immigrants. Meanwhile, in the 2020s, not only were Indians portrayed as geeks like east Asians, they also took on the nicknames of CP consumers, street shitters, and scam callers.



Nothing about how they are perceived is good. Thus the data also shows that. Most races are spawn trapped regardless of attractiveness by perception and SMV. OFC I'm not gonna act like physicall appearance isn't everything. A HMTN+ ethnic will make any political extremist forget everything they've ever learned.

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

Its simple. Women prefer Asians to them by statistics. Its because while gooks can maintain being high earners, their race is also viewed as pretty docile but also not exactly masculine.

However, after 2000, MENA have been portrayed as terrorists and horrible people by US politics, basically just Islamic rapists and killers, as have all immigrants. Meanwhile, in the 2020s, not only were Indians portrayed as geeks like east Asians, they also took on the nicknames of CP consumers, street shitters, and scam callers.

Nothing about how they are perceived is good. Thus the data also shows that. Most races are spawn trapped regardless of attractiveness by perception and SMV. OFC I'm not gonna act like physicall appearance isn't everything. A HMTN+ ethnic will make any political extremist forget everything they've ever learned.

Holy fucking yap

Explain why women would prefer Asians when they are undimorphic Neotenous and ugly on average compared to the average MENA/curry who can actually display dimorphism and human traits like not having epicanthic folds

 

[shngstaaaa107]

Holy fucking yap

Explain why women would prefer Asians when they are undimorphic Neotenous and ugly on average compared to the average MENA/curry who can actually display dimorphism and human traits like not having epicanthic folds

If you read I genuinely just explained it all.

No hate in my thread btw. All truths.

Stop acting like I haven't stated MENA and Indians have higher ceilings.

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

If you read I genuinely just explained it all.

No hate in my thread btw. All truths.

Stop acting like I haven't stated MENA and Indians have higher ceilings.

Women don't prefer asian men over MENA or Indian men buddy

The statistics and real world results speak for themselves

I can list tens of reasons why east Asians have little to no smv

 

[shngstaaaa107]

Women don't prefer asian men over MENA or Indian men buddy

The statistics and real world results speak for themselves

I can list tens of reasons why east Asians have little to no smv

I don't care

The studies I've chosen are the studies that also show they have higher SMV. Your studies show gooks have worse real world results. Real world results DO NOT EQUAL SMV.

I only used reasons because they explain the statistics. I'm not even acting like these reasons are at the fault of the MENA or Indians.

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

Stop acting like I haven't stated MENA and Indians have higher ceilings.

Not only do they have higher ceilings they have better bases too

The average MENA/indian is more attractive than the average gook

 

[shngstaaaa107]

Not only do they have higher ceilings they have better bases too

The average MENA/indian is more attractive than the average gook

Yeah, I know. I stated this.

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

I don't care

The studies I've chosen are the studies that also show they have higher SMV. Your studies show gooks have worse real world results. Real world results DO NOT EQUAL SMV.

I only used reasons because they explain the statistics. I'm not even acting like these reasons are at the fault of the MENA or Indians.

Yeah keep coping with "muh asian SMV!!!" When in reality it's much lower compared to MENA/curry populations and gooks have lower dating results in correlation with their low smv

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

Yeah, I know. I stated this.

So asian men are unattractive on average hence they have low smv on average

 

[shngstaaaa107]

Yeah keep coping with "muh asian SMV!!!" When in reality it's much lower compared to MENA/curry populations and gooks have lower dating results in correlation with their low smv

This whole argument was about SMV. At this point you can admit that yes, Asians do have higher SMV than MENA/india but have worse dating results. I said this too. But again, that's not because gook SMV doesn't matter IRL but because most gooks from those studies are ugly.

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

This whole argument was about SMV. At this point you can admit that yes, Asians do have higher SMV than MENA/india but have worse dating results. I said this too. But again, that's not because gook SMV doesn't matter IRL but because most gooks from those studies are ugly.

East Asians don't have higher SMV than MENA/India LMAO

 

[shngstaaaa107]

So asian men are unattractive on average hence they have low smv on average

No. Those two do not mean the two things. You still don't know what SMV means. You're retarded. And ignorant. You cant even call yourself a looksmax.org user atp. I already disproved this. Im waiting for you to tell me where Im wrong.

 

[shngstaaaa107]

East Asians don't have higher SMV than MENA/India LMAO

Okay. Why am I wrong, after all of the data and "yap" I provided? If you cant give me a good reason then youre genuinely done for

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

Okay. Why am I wrong, after all of the data and "yap" I provided? If you cant give me a good reason then youre genuinely done for

SMV=Face Frame Height (This is what triggers primal attraction so inb4 muh money or status cope)

Gooks are ugly short and have narrow frames on average

Therefore they have low smv


MENA/Indians are better looking taller and wider framed on average

Therefore they have higher SMV than gooks

@ltnbrownacnecel

 

[shngstaaaa107]

SMV=Face Frame Height (This is what triggers primal attraction so inb4 muh money or status cope)

Gooks are ugly short and have narrow frames on average

Therefore they have low smv


MENA/Indians are better looking taller and wider framed on average

Therefore they have higher SMV than gooks

@ltnbrownacnecel

Okay? But every study about preference Ive shown states that a woman will prefer a gook to a Mena/Indian outside of IRL dating success. You have to compare two of the same appearance. That is when only SMV matters. Otherwise its just the halo effect and attractiveness.

SMV = "an individual's perceived desirability or value in the dating market"

PERCEIVED

attractiveness is objective, perceptions aren't. That's what youre missing out on. Its not going to be about who is better looking, but what people feel about you when two are the same.

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

Okay? But every study about preference Ive shown states that a woman will prefer a gook to a Mena/Indian outside of IRL dating success. You have to compare two of the same appearance. That is when only SMV matters. Otherwise its just the halo effect and attractiveness.

SMV = "an individual's perceived desirability or value in the dating market"

PERCEIVED

attractiveness is objective, perceptions aren't. That's what youre missing out on. Its not going to be about who is better looking, but what people feel about you when two are the same.

The studies I showed said the opposite abt gook smv and racial preferences

 

[shngstaaaa107]

The studies I showed said the opposite abt gook smv

No, those are about real world dating, where as you said in those studies average gook is worse looking than MENA or Indian.

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

No, those are about real world dating, where as you said in those studies average gook is worse looking than MENA or Indian.

Read the study bro

 

[shngstaaaa107]

Read the study bro

I did. It found that when women were selecting from real people gooks got less dates compared to curries and Mena. gooks on average are what you say they are, shorter and often same attractiveness or less. get it now?

 

[TheGreatDetective]

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

I did. It found that when women were selecting from real people gooks got less dates compared to curries and Mena. gooks on average are what you say they are, shorter and often same attractiveness or less. get it now?

Thanks for explaining my point


MENA/curries>Gooks


Also:

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[shngstaaaa107]

Thanks for explaining my point


MENA/curries>Gooks


Also:

Ok. But in doing this you really have to acknowledge gook SMV is higher as I've said.

Stop acting like I've ever went against your point like you're genuinely doing something bro

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

Ok. But in doing this you really have to acknowledge gook SMV is higher as I've said.

Stop acting like I've ever went against your point like you're genuinely doing something bro

Gook smv isn't higher I already explained why

The real world results reflect their lower smv

 

[shngstaaaa107]

Gook smv isn't higher I already explained why

The real world results reflect their lower smv

Yes, because theyre at the moment physically incapable. In situations where it is ONLY ABOUT RACE women will always go with gooks .The result I'm hoping for is that Chinkas can improve their appearance over the next decade or two and curries can improve their SMV and perception.

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

Yes, because theyre at the moment physically incapable. In situations where it is ONLY ABOUT RACE women will always go with gooks .The result I'm hoping for is that Chinkas can improve their appearance over the next decade or two and curries can improve their SMV and perception.

So u agree with my point?

 

[shngstaaaa107]

So u agree with my point?

That MENA and Indians are at the moment more physically capable than gooks? Yes. They also have higher facial ceilings. Always have.

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

That MENA and Indians are at the moment more physically capable than gooks? Yes. They also have higher facial ceilings. Always have.

So they have higher SMV on average compared to gooks right?

 

[shngstaaaa107]

So they have higher SMV on average compared to gooks right?

I've told you why this isn't true many times. I don't understand why you wont listen. When you make it only about race, and not about two people being physically different by a lot, gooks have higher SMV.

If two men who earn the same, are the same height weight and frame, and have equally attractive faces (Obviously with ethnic failos like monolids and flat maxilla for gooks, or recessed infras and bad coloring for curries, as these are the things that make them ethnically different), women will start perceiving by race, not appearance. And they will choose the gook because stereotypes and ideas about curries are worse.

 

[Panchitosbroncs]

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@tomacōck

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

I've told you why this isn't true many times. I don't understand why you wont listen. When you make it only about race, and not about two people being physically different by a lot, gooks have higher SMV.

If two men who earn the same, are the same height weight and frame, and have equally attractive faces (Obviously with ethnic failos like monolids and flat maxilla for gooks, or recessed infras and bad coloring for curries, as these are the things that make them ethnically different), women will start perceiving by race, not appearance. And they will choose the gook because stereotypes and ideas about curries are worse.

Ok explain here with evidence from multiple sources that gooks have better smv


Take ur time no rush bud

 

[shngstaaaa107]

Ok explain here with evidence from multiple sources that gooks have better smv


Take ur time no rush bud

I did.

 

[chang cypionate]

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Is that thecel

I fucking mog him

 

[Zenis]

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