why existence is not a predicate, and therefore ontological arguments about God are invalid

[ashdod_mogger]

Science doesn’t explain anything ina Vacuum though that’s the point, to use science presupposes shit already which are immaterial I barring abstract things that exist but cannot be empirically evidenced an example is the laws of Logic and Mathematics.

The “Logos” is in many beliefs systems even the Ancient Greeks had a concept of it however I’m Orthodox, we have the true revelation of the Logos it isn’t simply the thing that allows us to see the world nope. The logos is the thought of God, when God creates he does it via his Logos, the logos is the one that structures reality. This is explained in St Maxmumus the confessors Ambigua. Western Christians have a completely different theology and metaphysics to orthodox Christian’s.

Jews had an idea of the Logos as it does also come up in the Bible in the Wisdom literature of Solomon and in the Pslams. However once again it’s only truly realised in Christ.

God is the only way shit can be coherently explained coherently justified everything else cannot be without God, god is the ultimate axiom the one that perfectly fits the puzzle of all the transcendental categories. This is why I argue only for the ORTHODOX God not some generic deity from any other cult or religion because their metaphysics fail and fall into contradictions and errors
Regarding justification of reality.

I'd agree God the holy grail of metaphysics including morals and Reason principles validity though

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Tl;dr : There is no essence in the first place therefore there is not trait of deity as it's "being"

Any counters?

My counter to this honestly is that to say there is no essense is in of itself a universal claim… to know shit supposed there’s an knower thats how epistemology is explained at its foundation. This is why this shits very deep and not for the unlearned.

Even the term being has intellectual content which is a predicate which relies on principles above it in logic etc. it gets really wacky and once again only God can undergird it all without it falling into pure Nihilism and people believing in stuff incoherently. This is why atheists are pathetic when they say somebody’s bad or whatever it’s like as Hume said “You cannot get an is from an ought”

 

[ashdod_mogger]

My counter to this honestly is that to say there is no essense is in of itself a universal claim… to know shit supposed there’s an knower thats how epistemology is explained at its foundation. This is why this shits very deep and not for the unlearned.

Even the term being has intellectual content which is a predicate which relies on principles above it in logic etc. it gets really wacky and once again only God can undergird it all without it falling into pure Nihilism and people believing in stuff incoherently. This is why atheists are pathetic when they say somebody’s bad or whatever it’s like as Hume said “You cannot get an is from an ought”

first thing, to me the problem of induction (where the whole of epistemology falls into the section of language game, regarding "transcendental,, pure reason categories as an language illusion) maybe got a solution by ludwig wittgenstein, when he dealt with each of those in his famous books Philosophical Investigations and Tractatus Logico Philosophicus , same is with moral problems, albeit the fact i'm rather nihilistic sadly enough.
secondly you follow Jesus / hume's teaching? I have to ask, does it get along with eachother? , you seem very well educated to me

 

[Bars]

I was exploring and writing some other things here https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/if-god-created-everything

Science doesn’t explain anything ina Vacuum though that’s the point, to use science presupposes shit already which are immaterial I barring abstract things that exist but cannot be empirically evidenced an example is the laws of Logic and Mathematics.

The “Logos” is in many beliefs systems even the Ancient Greeks had a concept of it however I’m Orthodox, we have the true revelation of the Logos it isn’t simply the thing that allows us to see the world nope. The logos is the thought of God, when God creates he does it via his Logos, the logos is the one that structures reality. This is explained in St Maxmumus the confessors Ambigua. Western Christians have a completely different theology and metaphysics to orthodox Christian’s.

Jews had an idea of the Logos as it does also come up in the Bible in the Wisdom literature of Solomon and in the Pslams. However once again it’s only truly realised in Christ.

God is the only way shit can be coherently explained coherently justified everything else cannot be without God, god is the ultimate axiom the one that perfectly fits the puzzle of all the transcendental categories. This is why I argue only for the ORTHODOX God not some generic deity from any other cult or religion because their metaphysics fail and fall into contradictions and errors
Regarding justification of reality.

Similar to yours but better

 

[incel194012940]

@incel194012940 thoughts? how comes metaphysics, are even thing post 20s century? definitely Belongs in the medvial times (let alone casualty which is backed up by principles of induction and required for scientific method which is still not quite valid but again humian skeptics has their own)

It’s not a thing academically anymore but every layman gave up on what’s a thing academically because of hyperspecialization which sometimes leads to more correct intuitive opinions and sometimes leads to the return of the question of how many angels can fit on the head of a pin

 

[ashdod_mogger]

return of the question of how many angels can fit on the head of a pin

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Similar to yours but better

Pretty much. If I overwrite or get too detailed it will jsut grt TLDRd so I don’t bother going overboard

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

first thing, to me the problem of induction (where the whole of epistemology falls into the section of language game, regarding "transcendental,, pure reason categories as an language illusion) maybe got a solution by ludwig wittgenstein, when he dealt with each of those in his famous books Philosophical Investigations and Tractatus Logico Philosophicus , same is with moral problems, albeit the fact i'm rather nihilistic sadly enough.
secondly you follow Jesus / hume's teaching? I have to ask, does it get along with eachother? , you seem very well educated to me

I don’t follow Humes teaching. I’m saying if you’re atheist or an empiricist of any kind the reality is that Hume is your logical superior. Hume is an atheist and a genius arguably one of the smartest men to ever exist and I say this as a blk person that’s aware of Humes blatant racism towards my own kind. The reality is though they Hume already concludes the logical conclusion for all empiricist thought that’s what I’m saying


I as a Christian do not subscribe to his view as I have an account of reality I can justify everything I see hear and feel via Gods divine providence. The same cannot be said for atheist and as Hume was an atheist and an highly intelligent one he was able to see the limits of his paradigm and how it’s incompleteness and hypocrisy leads to him and all atheists by definition being Nihilists and when I say nihilist I don’t mean miserable but I mean it in the philosophical sense to say nothing has any meaning and thus nothing can be explained known or justified there is no Telos to anything. That’s what I’m saying. Having no God leads to thag conclusion by default.

So the Q now is “ok gods real now which one is true and can provide an accurate coherent non contradictory account for the Transcendental categories without falling into errors and inconsistencies” that’s where Eastern Orthodoxy comes in

 

[ashdod_mogger]

I don’t follow Humes teaching. I’m saying if you’re atheist or an empiricist of any kind the reality is that Hume is your logical superior. Hume is an atheist and a genius arguably one of the smartest men to ever exist and I say this as a blk person that’s aware of Humes blatant racism towards my own kind. The reality is though they Hume already concludes the logical conclusion for all empiricist thought that’s what I’m saying


I as a Christian do not subscribe to his view as I have an account of reality I can justify everything I see hear and feel via Gods divine providence. The same cannot be said for atheist and as Hume was an atheist and an highly intelligent one he was able to see the limits of his paradigm and how it’s incompleteness and hypocrisy leads to him and all atheists by definition being Nihilists and when I say nihilist I don’t mean miserable but I mean it in the philosophical sense to say nothing has any meaning and thus nothing can be explained known or justified there is no Telos to anything. That’s what I’m saying. Having no God leads to thag conclusion by default.

So the Q now is “ok gods real now which one is true and can provide an accurate coherent non contradictory account for the Transcendental categories without falling into errors and inconsistencies” that’s where Eastern Orthodoxy comes in

Damn you wrote a whole ass book paragraphs itt bro, appreciated

And then atp. No In arguing, so at this pt. I see can hardly reason in responding as we already went over the fact i'm myself nihilistic to some degree, which i view as philosophically necessity as of now

 

[topology]

oh i see.. Eq is not your forte eitherway, now like what i said before
hop off this thread before I'mma rape your faggot arse

What in your life caused you to have this rage?

 

[ashdod_mogger]

What in your life caused you to have this rage?

the streetshitting toothless begger on the streets of new Delhi mogs you to death

 

[topology]

the streetshitting toothless begger on the streets of new Delhi mogs you to death

Good one.

 

[ashdod_mogger]

Good one.

Maybe i will start sympethsing with you more often albeit the fact you are autistic ND lil brat

 

[topology]

Maybe i will start sympethsing with you more often albeit the fact you are autistic ND lil brat

Blunder within your text.


I've not been diagnosed with anything other than ADHD. I also have more money than you could imagine + look better than your morphed dreams.

 

[ashdod_mogger]

Blunder within your text.


I've not been diagnosed with anything other than ADHD. I also have more money than you could imagine + look better than your morphed dreams.

faggot ramblings