Why flat earthers exist?

[Klasik616]

Any flat earth believers around org?
Tell me your arguments to prove your theory

 

[Klasik616]

 

[2025cel]

it's no different to any other belief

Most ancient civilizations thought that the earth was flat

 

[Klasik616]

it's no different to any other belief

Most ancient civilizations thought that the earth was flat

Relativism.

Most ancient civilizations thought gods existed. It's not different from being atheist.

 

[2025cel]

Relativism.

Most ancient civilizations thought gods existed. It's not different from being atheist.

obviously

but how come people just take the word of NASA for granted?

 

[Klasik616]

obviously

but how come people just take the word of NASA for granted?

I don't. I also don't think every pic of the space is true. I only use logic to believe in the round earth.

 

[2025cel]

I don't. I also don't think every pic of the space is true. I only use logic to believe in the round earth.

Yea if you could logically make an explanation as to how the earth's round, then it would be valid.

But most people just go off the NASA space images, which are complete bs.

 

[mmmousaa]

There's a flat earth discord server, they're all completely insane lol, you try make an argument they'll claim you've made 10 fallacies in one sentence and then refuse to engage with you

 

[Klasik616]

Yea if you could logically make an explanation as to how the earth's round, then it would be valid.

But most people just go off the NASA space images, which are complete bs.

Not gonna use the boats or planes phenomenon cus I haven't done it myself but ... The best argument for the round earth has nothing to do with earth itself but the sky, even though flat earthers use gravity just like scientists, they cannot explain the nature of space and stars location. If you live on a flat earth we all would be looking at the same sky (from certain angles yea but basically the same scheme which could be a map) but if you live in a round earth you can't make a map of the stars because the space is on 3 dimensions and has no north, south, west or east, the stars you see on the sky depend on the place of the earth you are, which can be proven by just traveling around the planet (deductive). The flat earth also can't explain why the sun looks bigger and smaller sometimes. Also every other planet / star has the same shape and so does the earth (inductive) not an argument tho.

 

[sigma boii]

it's no different to any other belief

Its actually worse to think its round cause u are going against your senses / natural beliefs

 

[Mess]

I'd guess that the whole basis of the flat earth theory stems from a general distrust with the government.
Just classic contrarian stuff, either that or they're mentally deluded.

 

[Klasik616]

Its actually worse to think its round cause u are going against your senses / natural beliefs

Almost all science from the 1500's is against perception (specially physics) you still have a medieval thinking. Greeks also believed in the round earth, it has nothing to do with jews. Tell me one old civilization that believed in the flat earth. I haven't seen the shape of the earth, I think a round shape makes more sense.

 

[2025cel]

Not gonna use the boats or planes phenomenon cus I haven't done it myself but ... The best argument for the round earth has nothing to do with earth itself but the sky, even though flat earthers use gravity just like scientists, they cannot explain the nature of space and stars location. If you live on a flat earth we all would be looking at the same sky (from certain angles yea but basically the same scheme which could be a map) but if you live in a round earth you can't make a map of the stars because the space is on 3 dimensions and has no north, south, west or east, the stars you see on the sky depend on the place of the earth you are, which can be proven by just traveling around the planet (deductive). The flat earth also can't explain why the sun looks bigger and smaller sometimes. Also every other planet / star has the same shape and so does the earth (inductive) not an argument but logically valid.

They believe that there are different stars for various locations of earth(at least according to Eric Dubay that is)
And for the sun changing it's size the belief is that there are different suns which rise at different times. So basically when you start thinking the earth's flat you go against soyience as a whole. that's why it's hated.

 

[Klasik616]

They believe that there are different stars for various locations of earth(at least according to Eric Dubay that is)
And for the sun changing it's size the belief is that there are different suns which rise at different times. So basically when you start thinking the earth's flat you go against soyience as a whole. that's why it's hated.

Jfl
You can't have many suns
1/2 of the earth is on light mode and the other half is on night mode (day).
If you put 2-3 suns, those who are at night will have different night hours? (Normal is from 6pm to 6am).
That would break flat earth sense with time which is night and day. There's only one sun and one moon (proven by senses too).

Also you didn't prove a thing about stars because it's geometrically stupid to see different stars when we all see the same sky because we are living in a circle, we would all see the same stars from time to time. When you are in a round earth you see different stars every month of the year on every place of the earth (N, S, W, E), and it repeats once in a year.

 

[2025cel]

Jfl
You can't have many suns
1/2 of the earth is on light mode and the other half is on night mode (day).
If you put 2-3 suns, those who are at night will have different night hours? (Normal is from 6pm to 6am).
That would break flat earth sense with time which is night and day. There's only one sun and one moon (proven by senses too).

Also you didn't prove a thing about stars because it's geometrically stupid to see different stars when we all see the same sky because we are living in a circle, we would see the same stars from time to time. When you are in a round earth you see different stars every month of the year on every place of the earth, and it repeats in a year.

Yea the point being that the suns move upwards or downwards on the plane at the two locations, timed.
The moon is described as being one whole singular thing covered by the suns of the respective areas

stars however are artificial and selectively placed upon the earth to keep people believing the lie.
This would make sense given they don't believe in space either

 

[RODEBLUR]

Any flat earth believers around org?
Tell me your arguments to prove your theory

Same reason religious people exist

 

[sigma boii]

Almost all science from the 1500's is against perception (specially physics) you still have a medieval thinking. Greeks also believed in the round earth, it has nothing to do with jews. Tell me one old civilization that believed in the flat earth. I haven't seen the shape of the earth, I think a round shape makes more sense.

Bible exists since 0AD but its still fake

 

[zemult]

It's been proven by the data

 

[Klasik616]

stars are artificial and selectively placed upon the earth to keep people believing the lie.

@2025cel
Well with that moon being covered by 2 suns theory, how do you explain moon phases

 

[superpsycho]

kek at the people who actually believe that shit

 

[Klasik616]

kek at the people who actually believe that shit

Well women believe in astrology too

 

[Gonthar]

Any flat earth believers around org?
Tell me your arguments to prove your theory

It started as a meme, I remember the flat earth movement even 20 years ago, there were some online forums were people pretended tongue-in-cheek to believe the earth is flat, then they got more attention from the traditional media, tv channels, newspapers, etc., who reported them as really believing in that theory, there was an influx of people who also missed the fact they were joking and slowly the flat earth communities was replaced by genuine flat earthers.

 

[Humbert Humbert]

Well women believe in astrology too

Astrology is 100% real

 

[Wexilarious]

Not gonna use the boats or planes phenomenon cus I haven't done it myself but ... The best argument for the round earth has nothing to do with earth itself but the sky, even though flat earthers use gravity just like scientists, they cannot explain the nature of space and stars location. If you live on a flat earth we all would be looking at the same sky (from certain angles yea but basically the same scheme which could be a map) but if you live in a round earth you can't make a map of the stars because the space is on 3 dimensions and has no north, south, west or east, the stars you see on the sky depend on the place of the earth you are, which can be proven by just traveling around the planet (deductive). The flat earth also can't explain why the sun looks bigger and smaller sometimes. Also every other planet / star has the same shape and so does the earth (inductive) not an argument tho.

I'm going crazy with how 0/10 of knowledge you know about something

The difference in the sky is due to refraction

The sun becomes larger or smaller - due to changes in atmospheric pressure, more or less moisture in the atmosphere

Also summer and winter change because the sun gets closer in summer and further to the edges in winter

Gravity does not exist - there is a difference in the density of the environment and objects

The stars are simply located on a dome that rotates in one direction and cannot be fully seen due to refraction

How can we talk about space if no one has even left the dome

As I answered to one, there are scammers who talk nonsense and say they are flat-earthers, but in fact these are state-created organizations created for discrediting it and scamming

 

[Klasik616]

I'm going crazy with how 0/10 of knowledge you know about something

The difference in the sky is due to refraction

The sun becomes larger or smaller - due to changes in atmospheric pressure, more or less moisture in the atmosphere

Also summer and winter change because the sun gets closer in summer and further to the edges in winter

Gravity does not exist - there is a difference in the density of the environment and objects

The stars are simply located on a dome that rotates in one direction and cannot be fully seen due to refraction

How can we talk about space if no one has even left the dome

As I answered to one, there are scammers who talk nonsense and say they are flat-earthers, but in fact these are state-created organizations created for discrediting it and scamming

The flat earth model makes no sense
Why are starts rotating? What's the force making them rotate. In normal physics planets are making a translation movement towards the sun and stars are attracted by bigger stars. The image you posted is also a joke, how you do suppose an underworld exists. It also makes no fucking sense: if the earth was flat, why volcanoes exist? The magma would have to be in the center and the only model that explains how the magma travels to volcanoes is the spheric one, otherwise magma would be "failing off the world". It also makes no logic when it comes to space: how is earth the center of the universe if the pillars of earth are not in the center? We don't live in 2 dimensions but 3 spatial dimensions, which makes every object in the universe have a rounded shape. Every object has a different density but why all they fall down and not up to the stars? Your theory must answer both situations to consider it scientific. And the most stupid one: how is the antartica all around the world, just by crossing the antartica would answer your question. There's not a fucking wall, why is the wall elevated.

 

[Wexilarious]

The flat earth model makes no sense
Why are starts rotating? What's the force making them rotate. In normal physics planets are making a translation movement towards the sun and stars are attracted by bigger stars. The image you posted is also a joke, how you do suppose an underworld exists. It also makes no fucking sense: if the earth was flat, why volcanoes exist? The magma would have to be in the center and the only model that explains how the magma travels to volcanoes is the spheric one, otherwise magma would be "failing off the world". It also makes no logic when it comes to space: how is earth the center of the universe if the pillars of earth are not in the center? We don't live in 2 dimensions but 3 spatial dimensions, which makes every object in the universe have a rounded shape. Every object has a different density but why all they fall down and not up to the stars? Your theory must answer both situations to consider it scientific. And the most stupid one: how is the antartica all around the world.

This is just one of many planets, there are about 8 more of the same beyond this ocean

This is random image, most of old maps just show the dome and the ground and nothing more because there is no data and you can't find out more

Some questions cannot be answered because there is no data

It is easier to get permission to leave the dome than to study and tell other people how it really works

Ask the creator why objects that have a high density go down and about icewall, I don’t know, it’s just how the world works and that’s all