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Why frame matters.
Wide clavicles and broad shoulders are perceived as more attractive not just becaose of aesthetics but because of evolution.
For example this is my frame
The reason why its perceived as attractive is because it signals high testosterone
From a biological standpoint it signals protection and dominance.
Historically wide shoulders increase ur chances of survival. Women have evolved to perceive this as attractive.
Which one seems more masculine?
The right one obviously
Heres a study proving this :
link.springer.com
Women’s brains literally light up more when looking at broad shoulders
What to so if youre a framecel?
The clavicle bone is the last bone to stop growing (25yrs max)
Assuming youre under 25 its still not over
to maximize the growth of this bone i reccomend prioritizing sleep exercise and diet.
For broad shoulders you should get in the gym and do lat raises (2-3 sets 6-8 reps 1rir)
another important muscle is back so train ur back too.
i stopped training my traps so that my frame appears more broad
7 months of training
just spam lat raises bro
In conclusion our brains are literally wired to percieve wide clavicles as attractive.
Personally my clavicles arent the widest, but its my small waist, height and shoulders that make it appear like that.
Wide clavicles and broad shoulders are perceived as more attractive not just becaose of aesthetics but because of evolution.

For example this is my frame
The reason why its perceived as attractive is because it signals high testosterone
From a biological standpoint it signals protection and dominance.
Historically wide shoulders increase ur chances of survival. Women have evolved to perceive this as attractive.
Which one seems more masculine?

The right one obviously
Heres a study proving this :

The Interacting Effects of Height and Shoulder-to-Hip Ratio on Perceptions of Attractiveness, Masculinity, and Fighting Ability: Experimental Design and Ecological Validity Considerations - Archives of Sexual Behavior
Previous research has shown that men’s height and upper body size are both associated with the perception of attractiveness, because they might be cues to men’s genetic fitness, fighting ability, and resource holding power. However, the combined effects of men’s height and upper body size have...

What to so if youre a framecel?
The clavicle bone is the last bone to stop growing (25yrs max)
Assuming youre under 25 its still not over
to maximize the growth of this bone i reccomend prioritizing sleep exercise and diet.
For broad shoulders you should get in the gym and do lat raises (2-3 sets 6-8 reps 1rir)
another important muscle is back so train ur back too.
i stopped training my traps so that my frame appears more broad
7 months of training

just spam lat raises bro
In conclusion our brains are literally wired to percieve wide clavicles as attractive.
Personally my clavicles arent the widest, but its my small waist, height and shoulders that make it appear like that.