Why Greeks in America larp so hard to be like the traditional white, red neck, blue-collar American?

[Olivecel]

It’s seems to be a common trend for Greeks more so than any other ‘ethnic’ ethnic group in America to be like that stereotypical biker, beer-drinking, red neck country American patriot JFL..

 

[Saint Casanova]

It’s seems to be a common trend for Greeks more so than any other ‘ethnic’ ethnic group in America to be like that stereotypical biker, beer-drinking, red neck country American patriot JFL..
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More than Italians ?

 

[Sushifart]

Compatible cultures

Rednecks love drinking and high T shit, Greeks do as well. That's what I think anyways

 

[Sushifart]

Idk why though but immigrants in general (the legal ones) tend to be more patriotic than a lot of Americans jfl

 

[Deleted member 107106]

More than Italians ?

Italian-Americans aren't even italian

 

[Saint Casanova]

Italian-Americans aren't even italian

Well they are ethnically ?

 

[Deleted member 107106]

Well they are ethnically ?

They are usually heavily mixed

 

[The Grinch]

More than Italians ?

Italo americans are very proud of their italian origin

 

[GreekGenes]

>white
>why do you larp as white?

 

[TigranTheGreat]

same story with Armenians and Italians

Greeks too are orthodox christian

very christian countries (more likely to lean right because of this)

 

[Olivecel]

Compatible cultures

Rednecks love drinking and high T shit, Greeks do as well. That's what I think anyways

Slavs love drinking and high T shit too yet I don’t see them pretending to be fucking bikers and red necks..

 

[Olivecel]

same story with Armenians and Italians

Greeks too are orthodox christian

very christian countries (more likely to lean right because of this)

Idk I mean Mexicans are Christian af and they hate Trump. Philippinos too.
Slavs are Christian af too but they behave way more apolitical than Greeks. . Besides maybe polocks.

 

[Olivecel]

>white
>why do you larp as white?

Greeks don’t look white at all.

 

[Deleted member 72469]

They want to be accepted by whites and are insecure

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Italian-Americans aren't even italian

Theyre jewish

 

[Olivecel]

>white
>why do you larp as white?

And even if Greeks are white (they are not) their traditional culture is Balkanic. Nothing to do with the culture of Americans who stem from the earliest generations of Americans (Anglo, Irish, German, etc. heritage of Americans)..
Greeks are preforming to be like fucking bikers and red necks. Doesn’t make sense. Even Slavs and Italians in America don’t do that shit.

 

[GreekGenes]

Greeks don’t look white at all.

you're right they look asian

 

[Olivecel]

you're right they look asian
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Cherry picking faggot. Those are not typical Greeks.

 

[GreekGenes]

Cherry picking faggot. Those are not typical Greeks.

lmao, you probably got some gypsie genes and have become a self-hating greek or something. feels sad man

 

[Olivecel]

you're right they look asian
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Bruh you are so ridiculous. Let’s say Greeks are white, this is not their fucking phenotype ^.. very rare. You are literally trying to nordicize us this point JFL

 

[got.daim]

gay

 

[GreekGenes]

Bruh you are so ridiculous. Let’s say Greeks are white, this is not their fucking phenotype ^.. very rare. You are literally trying to nordicize us this point JFL

the funny thing is that YOU are the one nordicizing whiteness, because you think whites have to be blue eyed and blond. And then i post off the top of my head 5 blond and light eyed greeks and you go "muuuuuuuuuh non-typical phenotypeeeeeeeee"

make me chuckle harder please

 

[TigranTheGreat]

Cherry picking faggot. Those are not typical Greeks.

Hitler and Alfred Rosenberg (racial advisor) considered Greeks, Armenians and Italians to be aryan

sure they’re not the nordic or alpine types but they’re still Aryan

(and idgaf what they considered aryan or not i’m just bring it up because if they thought this then….) (i’d rather trust genetic testing)

Unfortunately you have to go case by case because of the tragic geographic locations of most of the countries around the mediterranean region

we didn’t have the luxury to be fucked off on an island somewhere in the middle of the atlantic and have a rich history of many empires in the region thus resulting in lots of mixing and wars

 

[Olivecel]

lmao, you probably got some gypsie genes and have become a self-hating greek or something. feels sad man

I don’t self hate but I hate the habit of calling Greeks “white” when we clearly have a distinctly Mediterranean phenotype on average.

 

[Olivecel]

Hitler and Alfred Rosenberg (racial advisor) considered Greeks, Armenians and Italians to be aryan

sure they’re not the nordic or alpine types but they’re still Aryan

(and tbh idgaf what they considered aryan or not i’m just bring it up because if they thought this then….)

Unfortunately you have to go case by case because of the tragic geographic locations of most of the countries around the mediterranean region

we didn’t have the luxury to be fucked off on an island somewhere and have a rich history of many empires in the region thus resulting in lots of mixing and wars

He also considered Iranians and Turks Aryan so I guess it’s safe to say we’re all aryans Saar..
As long as we’re not black, Gypsy or Jewish.

 

[GreekGenes]

Hitler and Alfred Rosenberg (racial advisor) considered Greeks, Armenians and Italians to be aryan

sure they’re not the nordic or alpine types but they’re still Aryan

(and tbh idgaf what they considered aryan or not i’m just bring it up because if they thought this then….)

Unfortunately you have to go case by case because of the tragic geographic locations of most of the countries around the mediterranean region

we didn’t have the luxury to be fucked off on an island somewhere and have a rich history of many empires in the region thus resulting in lots of mixing and wars

exactly, like if youre gonna use retarded nazi terminology at least know how nazis define that terminology.

by any and all accounts even the most brainwashed national socialists considered greeks and italians to be aryans.

Even the nazis believed that aryanism did not necessitate being "blonde & blue-eyed".

because guess what: 70% of germanoids arent blonde & blue eyed either

"brooooooooooo, stop calling germans white! Theyre not nordic looking. Broooo, stop cherrypicking blonde germans!"

 

[TigranTheGreat]

He also considered Iranians and Turks Aryan so I guess it’s safe to say we’re all aryans Saar..
As long as we’re not black, Gypsy or Jewish.

stop spreading bs he did not consider them aryans

Armenians were actually able to wear the german insignias unlike the turk legions because they were NOT considered aryan and were muslim

 

[TigranTheGreat]

exactly, like if youre gonna use retarded nazi terminology at least know how nazis define that terminology.

by any and all accounts even the most brainwashed national socialists considered greeks and italians to be aryans.

Even the nazis believed that aryanism did not necessitate being "blonde & blue-eyed".

because guess what: 70% of germanoids arent blonde & blue eyed either

"brooooooooooo, stop calling germans white! Theyre not nordic looking. Broooo, stop cherrypicking blonde germans!"

yes.

 

[Olivecel]

the funny thing is that YOU are the one nordicizing whiteness, because you think whites have to be blue eyed and blond. And then i post off the top of my head 5 blond and light eyed greeks and you go "muuuuuuuuuh non-typical phenotypeeeeeeeee"

make me chuckle harder please

White=northern and western European.
If you don’t look anything like French, Irish, Polish, English, German, Scandinavian and anything in between the you’re not white.
Some Greeks do look white. Many others do not and would pass more in places like Lebanon or Turkey.
The Mediterranean is a gray zone between West Asian and European generics. Simple as that!

 

[GreekGenes]

White=northern and western European.
If you don’t look anything like French, Irish, Polish, English, German, Scandinavian and anything in between the you’re not white.
Some Greeks do look white. Many others do not and would pass more in places like Lebanon or Turkey.
The Mediterranean is a gray zone between West Asian and European generics. Simple as that!

literally half of the french population is indistinguishable from greeks

have you ever seen a french dude from marseille or Nice?

Anyways. I agree that the nordic phenotype is rare among greeks <10%. I disagree that that makes them non-white. Greeks are indeed significantly influenced culturally by non-white peoples. But that's about it. They're mediterannean Europeans who simply tend to have dark eyes and olive skin.

 

[Olivecel]

stop spreading bs he did not consider them aryans

Armenians were actually able to wear the german insignias unlike the turk legions because they were NOT considered aryan and were muslim

I have to find it but a Turkish village was used as an example of an Aryan lifestyle next to a Communat Slav village which was supposed for be an example of ‘Der intermensh’..
And Iranians were exempt from Nuremberg racial policies. Look it up the relation between Hitler and the Iranians.
And yeah, poles weren’t even considered Aeyan but somehow Greeks, Armenians, Turks and Iranian were. Goes to show how fucking stupid his take on whiteness was.. it was all political, nothing scientific about it

 

[Olivecel]

literally half of the french population is indistinguishable from greeks

have you ever seen a french dude from marseille or Nice?

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This guy is not a typical French phenotype.
Show me a crowd then I’ll be convinced.
Enough cherry picking. You picked the swarthiest and most-Arab-looking Frenchman.
Speaking of the same logic, he can also pass as many Lebanese people.. so if this phenotype is white then let’s just start including Arabs Saar

 

[GreekGenes]

This guy is not a typical French phenotype.
Show me a crowd then I’ll be convinced.
Enough cherry picking. You picked the swarthiest and most-Arab-looking Frenchman.

if is showed you a crowd of a thousand dark-haired, tanned frenchmen you'd claim they're not french but moroccan immigrants

 

[Olivecel]

if is showed you a crowd of a thousand dark-haired, tanned frenchmen you'd claim they're not french but moroccan immigrants

Dark hair isn’t the only indicator. It’s a set of facial features plus genetic profile.

 

[TigranTheGreat]

I have to find it but a Turkish village was used as an example of an Aryan lifestyle next to a Communat Slav village which was supposed for be an example of ‘Der intermensh’..
And Iranians were exempt from Nuremberg racial policies. Look it up the relation between Hitler and the Iranians.
And yeah, poles weren’t even considered Aeyan but somehow Greeks, Armenians, Turks and Iranian were. Goes to show how fucking stupid his take on whiteness was.. it was all political, nothing scientific about it

your right. that’s why i said idgaf about what they thought. It was mainly politically motivated.

but even then modern genetic testing shows Greeks, Armenians and Italians are white (mediterranean, caucasian classifications)

turks have mongolian asiatic blood similar to fins and hungarians

 

[TigranTheGreat]

if is showed you a crowd of a thousand dark-haired, tanned frenchmen you'd claim they're not french but moroccan immigrants

arabs have verifiable semitic genes that can
be shown with tests…greeks don’t

 

[Olivecel]

if is showed you a crowd of a thousand dark-haired, tanned frenchmen you'd claim they're not french but moroccan immigrants

Ethnic French crowd:

Ethnic Greek crowd:

French do have dark hair but their skin is whiter and their facial features are western.
Greeks are darker and their facial features resemble Anatolians and Arabs.

 

[Olivecel]

arabs have verifiable semitic genes that can
be shown with tests…greeks don’t

What is the baseline of “Semitic genes”?
Because Greeks have something around 5-20% Natufian and Iranian Neolithic ancestry..
I’m aware that Iranian Neolithic is not ‘Semtic’ but it is MENA nonetheless..

And on a PCA distance chart, Greeks are literally closer to the Levant than they are to people like Germans, Polish, Irish, English and even French, etc. who are supposedly “fellow Aryans” ,

 

[Olivecel]

Even the nazis believed that aryanism did not necessitate being "blonde & blue-eyed".

because guess what: 70% of germanoids arent blonde & blue eyed either

"brooooooooooo, stop calling germans white! Theyre not nordic looking. Broooo, stop cherrypicking blonde germans!"

I never said the Nordic phenotype is the only white phenotype. I included all western and northern types..
Plain and simple Greeks, Albanians and southern Italians look very similar to Levantine Arabs and Anatolians. So if Greeks are white then so are the latter..

 

[Yliaster]

Its the same with some Italians as well ,and the reason for it is because they're aware that they aren't
exactly pure white which is often reinforced even more by others making comments about their background
like sometimes mistaking them for Hispanics and other Ethnic denominations which creates an insecurity that
usually manifests in them having to go above and beyond to prove they're European/White

 

[Olivecel]

>white
>why do you larp as white?

Anyway back to the original subject..
I wasn’t talking about race anyway.. I was talking about culture.
Agree to disagree about Greeks being white or not, but their culture is not the same as traditional American culture. Things like country and rock music, beer, Harley Davidson motorcycles, etc. is not traditionally Greek. Greek culture is southeastern European and more similar to its neighbors, but for some reason in America they all pretend to be like Americans of English, Irish, German, etc ancestry with the things I listed above^.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that Greeks are the most willing of all ethnicities to assimilate to American culture.

 

[Olivecel]

What is the baseline of “Semitic genes”?
Because Greeks have something around 5-20% Natufian and Iranian Neolithic ancestry..
I’m aware that Iranian Neolithic is not ‘Semtic’ but it is MENA nonetheless..
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And on a PCA distance chart, Greeks are literally closer to the Levant than they are to people like Germans, Polish, Irish, English and even French, etc. who are supposedly “fellow Aryans” ,
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@TigranTheGreat

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Damn didn't know Greeks were self loathing like that. As an honorary leader of the Med council I must revoke their Med pass. They are just pure cumskins now

 

[Olivecel]

Damn didn't know Greeks were self loathing like that. As an honorary leader of the Med council I must revoke their Med pass. They are just pure cumskins now

They aren’t even self loathing anymore, they literally seem to be fully assimilated white trash apparently.

 

[TigranTheGreat]

@TigranTheGreat

brb

 

[Olivecel]

JFL Trump would want guys like this deported,

Now all the sudden Greeks love him
@GreekGenes

It’s not even about whiteness it’s about the culture and mentality. Greeks went from being like Arabs and Balkanians and now to MAGA bikers like wtf changed?!

 

[Olivecel]

More than Italians ?

About the same maybe

 

[Olivecel]

Or maybe it’s a generation thing.
Greeks in America are about as old as Italian and Polish, 3rd, 4th and 5th generations..
Arabs, Asians and Indians are new immigrants and half of them still can’t even speak English.

 

[Olivecel]

Its the same with some Italians as well ,and the reason for it is because they're aware that they aren't
exactly pure white which is often reinforced even more by others making comments about their background
like sometimes mistaking them for Hispanics and other Ethnic denominations which creates an insecurity that
usually manifests in them having to go above and beyond to prove they're European/White

Or maybe it’s a generation thing.
Greeks in America are about as old as Italian and Polish, 3rd, 4th and 5th generations..
Arabs, Asians and Indians are new immigrants and half of them still can’t even speak English.