Why gymmaxing is one of the top looksmaxs you should be doing TODAY.

[TITUS]

Rated strength is the main predictor of men's bodily attractiveness. No women prefer weak men
Two studies by Sell, Lukazsweski, and Townsley (2017) published by the Royal Society examining the preferences of 160 young female raters, found a very strong (r = 0.80) correlation between bodily attractiveness and rated physical strength. Furthermore, they discovered that contrary to popular views about men's bodily attractiveness, there was a linear relationship between perceived strength and bodily attractiveness, i.e the men that were perceived as the strongest were also perceived as the most attractive.

The authors of the study also found that that there was no statistically significant portion of the female sample that had a preference for weaker looking men when evaluating male bodily attractiveness.

In addition, the researchers found that ratings of bodily attractiveness were only weakly to moderately correlated with actual measured strength at r = 0.38 (p < 0.01, when the photos of the subjects were viewed from the front). This suggests that a large part of the contribution of perceived strength to attractiveness is only an 'ornament' (similar to the function of a peacock's tail), and therefore, is not necessarily indicative of actual measured strength. The researchers state that it could also be that some things that contribute to actual measured strength are not viewed as attractive: e.g. excess fat storage.

Quotes:

• Ratings of strength are a robust and much larger predictor of bodily attractiveness than either height or weight.
• None of the 160 women in our study who rated attractiveness produced a statistically significant preference for weaker men (all p > 0.05) ... In other words, we could find no evidence that there exists a sizeable population of women who prefer physically weaker men when evaluating male bodies.
• Height is attractive even independent of making a man look strong. Controlling for how strong a man actually looks, raters still classify taller men as more attractive in two of the three samples.
• Weight is unattractive after controlling for how strong a man looks...this is consistent with the hypothesis that women's mate choice mechanisms respond to muscle mass positively but large stores of body fat negatively.
• Height, weight and ratings of strength collectively account for approximately 80% of the variance in male bodily attractiveness.
• Cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness.
• Contrary to popular theories of men's physical attractiveness, there was no evidence of a nonlinear effect; the strongest men were the most attractive in all samples.

References:

• Sell A, Lukazweski AW, Townsley M. 2017. Cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness. Proceedings of the Royal Society B. 284: 1869. [FullText]

Lazy copers are missing so much pussy every single day.

 

[Blackout.xl]

Rated strength is the main predictor of men's bodily attractiveness. No women prefer weak men
Two studies by Sell, Lukazsweski, and Townsley (2017) published by the Royal Society examining the preferences of 160 young female raters, found a very strong (r = 0.80) correlation between bodily attractiveness and rated physical strength. Furthermore, they discovered that contrary to popular views about men's bodily attractiveness, there was a linear relationship between perceived strength and bodily attractiveness, i.e the men that were perceived as the strongest were also perceived as the most attractive.

The authors of the study also found that that there was no statistically significant portion of the female sample that had a preference for weaker looking men when evaluating male bodily attractiveness.

In addition, the researchers found that ratings of bodily attractiveness were only weakly to moderately correlated with actual measured strength at r = 0.38 (p < 0.01, when the photos of the subjects were viewed from the front). This suggests that a large part of the contribution of perceived strength to attractiveness is only an 'ornament' (similar to the function of a peacock's tail), and therefore, is not necessarily indicative of actual measured strength. The researchers state that it could also be that some things that contribute to actual measured strength are not viewed as attractive: e.g. excess fat storage.

Quotes:

• Ratings of strength are a robust and much larger predictor of bodily attractiveness than either height or weight.
• None of the 160 women in our study who rated attractiveness produced a statistically significant preference for weaker men (all p > 0.05) ... In other words, we could find no evidence that there exists a sizeable population of women who prefer physically weaker men when evaluating male bodies.
• Height is attractive even independent of making a man look strong. Controlling for how strong a man actually looks, raters still classify taller men as more attractive in two of the three samples.
• Weight is unattractive after controlling for how strong a man looks...this is consistent with the hypothesis that women's mate choice mechanisms respond to muscle mass positively but large stores of body fat negatively.
• Height, weight and ratings of strength collectively account for approximately 80% of the variance in male bodily attractiveness.
• Cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness.
• Contrary to popular theories of men's physical attractiveness, there was no evidence of a nonlinear effect; the strongest men were the most attractive in all samples.

References:

• Sell A, Lukazweski AW, Townsley M. 2017. Cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness. Proceedings of the Royal Society B. 284: 1869. [FullText]

Lazy copers are missing so much pussy every single day.

Facts

 

[Madhate]

water is wet? wow

 

[TITUS]

water is wet? wow

Yeah it's wet, yet people here keep talking about prettyboys and wimps, when a bodymaxed prettyboy will rekt a wimp prettyboy any day of the week.

 

[CursedOne]

there is no looksmaxx for my recessed maxxila

 

[Deleted member 643]

Too bad most gyms are still closed here in the states.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Water

 

[eduardkoopman]

Rated strength is the main predictor of men's bodily attractiveness.

to add: MINUS FACE!!!!!

just to be clear.
I read the study before.
It excludes face.
Face is number 1. (matters 68%)
AND Body matters 32%.

When it comes to body. research has shown it's like this:
manlet = game over
After above manlet height: strength in body matters most.
Extra height does little compared to strength, past average height ranges.

Since body is at 2nd place of what matters. it's massively important.


all sources to what I said. Can be found here: https://looksmax.org/threads/proof-science-face-body-and-strenght-masculinity.96040/

 

[Mouthbreath]

Too bad most gyms are still closed here in the states.

jfl he doesn't have a homegym

 

[Madhate]

Yeah it's wet, yet people here keep talking about prettyboys and wimps, when a bodymaxed prettyboy will rekt a wimp prettyboy any day of the week.

imagine taking this site seriously and even trying to give advice to retards here

 

[bonsai]

 

[GigaMogger]

This or death

 

[Germania]

Gymcelling is legit for frame and to stay at lowish bf, very important looksmaxxes

 

[TITUS]

Too bad most gyms are still closed here in the states.

The jews want you weak and full of soy. A pull up bar hanging from the wall and a set of barbell, bank and plates is not expensive, besides bodyweight exercises. If you are starting you can do custom weights with 10lbs gallons of bleach or whatever, fill them with sand+water. There is no excuse.

 

[YoungRichNigga]

what exercises/ muscles should we be focusing on?

 

[poloralf]

Yeah it's wet, yet people here keep talking about prettyboys and wimps, when a bodymaxed prettyboy will rekt a wimp prettyboy any day of the week.

They're very young and probably low t, the blind spot of this forum is the power of body and roids they cannot even begin to fathom how much of a difference it makes with foids, its not even funny

 

[eduardkoopman]

what exercises/ muscles should we be focusing on?

cheast.
V-shape

 

[YoungRichNigga]

cheast.
V-shape

ideal?

 

[Pillarman]

• Cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness.

chicken legs lifefuel

 

[YoungRichNigga]

View attachment 590810
ideal?

also i 6ft good enough to be in the clear?

 

[Germania]

what exercises/ muscles should we be focusing on?

All, but be careful with legs

 

[YoungRichNigga]

All, but be careful with legs

what do you mean be careful with legs?

 

[eduardkoopman]

View attachment 590810
ideal?

imo good enough.
Some extra legg muscle would look more in proportions.
If he added 5kg of muscle, he be ideal I guess.

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

More contradicting advice from this forum.
Strong people are almost invariably higher body fat (were not including sedentary people)

so be strong and high body fat or weak and lean. - again this is for those who are regularly training. You can’t gain strength at calorie deficit.

 

[Mouthbreath]

thanks for the motivation. I will do some neckcurls now.

 

[Deleted]

water is wet? wow

Water isnt wet at all What is This Cope

 

[Germania]

what do you mean be careful with legs?

Big legs look bad. You need legs with a not too large circumference but a clear muscle incision

 

[Mouthbreath]

Big legs look bad. You need legs with a not too large circumference but a clear muscle incision

over for my 70cm markus rühl sized quads.

 

[Germania]

over for my 70cm markus rühl sized quads.

I went to school directly next to his Gym

 

[Chintuck22]

Rated strength is the main predictor of men's bodily attractiveness. No women prefer weak men
Two studies by Sell, Lukazsweski, and Townsley (2017) published by the Royal Society examining the preferences of 160 young female raters, found a very strong (r = 0.80) correlation between bodily attractiveness and rated physical strength. Furthermore, they discovered that contrary to popular views about men's bodily attractiveness, there was a linear relationship between perceived strength and bodily attractiveness, i.e the men that were perceived as the strongest were also perceived as the most attractive.

The authors of the study also found that that there was no statistically significant portion of the female sample that had a preference for weaker looking men when evaluating male bodily attractiveness.

In addition, the researchers found that ratings of bodily attractiveness were only weakly to moderately correlated with actual measured strength at r = 0.38 (p < 0.01, when the photos of the subjects were viewed from the front). This suggests that a large part of the contribution of perceived strength to attractiveness is only an 'ornament' (similar to the function of a peacock's tail), and therefore, is not necessarily indicative of actual measured strength. The researchers state that it could also be that some things that contribute to actual measured strength are not viewed as attractive: e.g. excess fat storage.

Quotes:

• Ratings of strength are a robust and much larger predictor of bodily attractiveness than either height or weight.
• None of the 160 women in our study who rated attractiveness produced a statistically significant preference for weaker men (all p > 0.05) ... In other words, we could find no evidence that there exists a sizeable population of women who prefer physically weaker men when evaluating male bodies.
• Height is attractive even independent of making a man look strong. Controlling for how strong a man actually looks, raters still classify taller men as more attractive in two of the three samples.
• Weight is unattractive after controlling for how strong a man looks...this is consistent with the hypothesis that women's mate choice mechanisms respond to muscle mass positively but large stores of body fat negatively.
• Height, weight and ratings of strength collectively account for approximately 80% of the variance in male bodily attractiveness.
• Cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness.
• Contrary to popular theories of men's physical attractiveness, there was no evidence of a nonlinear effect; the strongest men were the most attractive in all samples.

References:

• Sell A, Lukazweski AW, Townsley M. 2017. Cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness. Proceedings of the Royal Society B. 284: 1869. [FullText]

Lazy copers are missing so much pussy every single day.

Wish i could gymcel, i have urinary tract infection... just fuck this shit

 

[TITUS]

to add: MINUS FACE!!!!!

just to be clear.
I read the study before.
It excludes face.
Face is number 1. (matters 68%)
AND Body matters 32%.

When it comes to body. research has shown it's like this:
manlet = game over
After above manlet height: strength in body matters most.
Extra height does little compared to strength, past average height ranges.

Since body is at 2nd place of what matters. it's massively important.


all sources to what I said. Can be found here: https://looksmax.org/threads/proof-science-face-body-and-strenght-masculinity.96040/

Among university students, only physical dominance over other men predicted mating success
permalink | category: Body | table of contents
A study by Kordsmeyer et al. 2018 found that men's mating success (defined as "an aggregate of participants' number of sexual partners within the last twelve months, lifetime number of one-night stands and of sexual partners without relationship interest") among university students was only related to how dominant other men perceived them. Women's attractiveness ratings were not predictive. This suggests men's mating success is largely determined by their intrasexual competition by means of physical intimidation. Since perceived strength is only moderately related to actual strength, it is likely that men's V-shaped upper body is largely sexually selected and rather mimics actual strength. That the study's advertisement may have primarily selected for men who were confident with their physical appearance, thus they possibly were selected to meet a minimal looks threshold, necessary for dating, that may have went unnoticed by the researchers.

The results certainly highlight the importance of male dominance and male-male competition. It suggests that in modern dating contexts (outside of online dating) there are diminishing returns in looks, but not physical dominance. It should of course be noted that physical dominance, even though more malleable than looks, is also largely genetically predetermined.

Discussion:

The authors interpreted their results as evidence that women's choice plays a surprisingly minor role, but another possibility is that women's choice is more based on dominance status than women would like to admit (virtue signaling, social desirability bias).

Overall, this study supports the notion that due to the decline of tradition in Western countries, mating has reverted from more k-strategies that involve sophisticated courtship in terms of impressing not just the female, but gaining competence status in some communal structures, to mere physical intimidation games, which may in part explain the ever growing interest in body building and anabolic steroids, presumably resembling more the mating practices of our more r-selected ancestors, and also reviving ancient, feral and hypergamous circuitry in women.

Quotes:

• These findings thus suggest a greater importance of intrasexual competition than female choice in human male sexual selection.
• This directly replicates Hill et al.'s (2013) result for upper body size (“girth” in their study), and underlines that upper body size may be sexually selected and enhance men's mating success.
• These findings converge with two more ecologically valid results from two studies in small scale societies. In one Western African population, men involved in traditional ritual fights (wrestling) had a higher number of offspring, but were not especially preferred by local women (Llaurens, Raymond, & Faurie, 2009). In another traditional society, men's success in turtle hunting predicted earlier onset of reproduction and higher reproductive success, but again did not seem to be valued by women (Smith, Bird, & Bird, 2003).
• Men's access to female mates is determined in part by intimidating and winning deference from male rivals, and that this influence may be independent of and even exceed that of mate attraction.

References:

• Kordsmeyer TL, Hunt J, Puts DA, Ostner J, Penke L. 2018. The relative importance of intra-and intersexual selection on human male sexually dimorphic traits. Evolution and Human Behavior, 39(4), pp.424-436. [Abstract] [FullText]

 

[TITUS]

More contradicting advice from this forum.
Strong people are almost invariably higher body fat (were not including sedentary people)

so be strong and high body fat or weak and lean. - again this is for those who are regularly training. You can’t gain strength at calorie deficit.

You didn't understand brainlet, perceived strenght not real strength, its about big muscles not big strenght.

 

[Deleted member 110]

I envy people with normal height and frame because gymcelling actually works for them.
As a manlet your better off super lean and just doing bodyweight exercise

 

[eduardkoopman]

Among university students, only physical dominance over other men predicted mating success
permalink | category: Body | table of contents
A study by Kordsmeyer et al. 2018 found that men's mating success (defined as "an aggregate of participants' number of sexual partners within the last twelve months, lifetime number of one-night stands and of sexual partners without relationship interest") among university students was only related to how dominant other men perceived them. Women's attractiveness ratings were not predictive. This suggests men's mating success is largely determined by their intrasexual competition by means of physical intimidation. Since perceived strength is only moderately related to actual strength, it is likely that men's V-shaped upper body is largely sexually selected and rather mimics actual strength. That the study's advertisement may have primarily selected for men who were confident with their physical appearance, thus they possibly were selected to meet a minimal looks threshold, necessary for dating, that may have went unnoticed by the researchers.

The results certainly highlight the importance of male dominance and male-male competition. It suggests that in modern dating contexts (outside of online dating) there are diminishing returns in looks, but not physical dominance. It should of course be noted that physical dominance, even though more malleable than looks, is also largely genetically predetermined.

Discussion:

The authors interpreted their results as evidence that women's choice plays a surprisingly minor role, but another possibility is that women's choice is more based on dominance status than women would like to admit (virtue signaling, social desirability bias).

Overall, this study supports the notion that due to the decline of tradition in Western countries, mating has reverted from more k-strategies that involve sophisticated courtship in terms of impressing not just the female, but gaining competence status in some communal structures, to mere physical intimidation games, which may in part explain the ever growing interest in body building and anabolic steroids, presumably resembling more the mating practices of our more r-selected ancestors, and also reviving ancient, feral and hypergamous circuitry in women.

Quotes:

• These findings thus suggest a greater importance of intrasexual competition than female choice in human male sexual selection.
• This directly replicates Hill et al.'s (2013) result for upper body size (“girth” in their study), and underlines that upper body size may be sexually selected and enhance men's mating success.
• These findings converge with two more ecologically valid results from two studies in small scale societies. In one Western African population, men involved in traditional ritual fights (wrestling) had a higher number of offspring, but were not especially preferred by local women (Llaurens, Raymond, & Faurie, 2009). In another traditional society, men's success in turtle hunting predicted earlier onset of reproduction and higher reproductive success, but again did not seem to be valued by women (Smith, Bird, & Bird, 2003).
• Men's access to female mates is determined in part by intimidating and winning deference from male rivals, and that this influence may be independent of and even exceed that of mate attraction.

References:

• Kordsmeyer TL, Hunt J, Puts DA, Ostner J, Penke L. 2018. The relative importance of intra-and intersexual selection on human male sexually dimorphic traits. Evolution and Human Behavior, 39(4), pp.424-436. [Abstract] [FullText]

Interesting share. need to look up on it. I don't understand how the excluded online dating, since nowadays with youth online dating is the most common way of meeting new potential partners.

I need to read up on the full text.

It basically says.
" . Results from ... revealed that physical dominance, but not sexual attractiveness, predicted mating success."

That's unexpected to me.
I thought.
Attactiveness = number 1 factor
Dominance = top 3 factor but not 1.

 

[Deleted member 3990]

Inb4 someone posts comparsion of lanky male model and gymcel uggo

 

[nvck_pilled]

Inb4 someone posts comparsion of lanky male model and gymcel uggo

 

[nvck_pilled]

uh oh

 

[ezio6]

Rated strength is the main predictor of men's bodily attractiveness. No women prefer weak men
Two studies by Sell, Lukazsweski, and Townsley (2017) published by the Royal Society examining the preferences of 160 young female raters, found a very strong (r = 0.80) correlation between bodily attractiveness and rated physical strength. Furthermore, they discovered that contrary to popular views about men's bodily attractiveness, there was a linear relationship between perceived strength and bodily attractiveness, i.e the men that were perceived as the strongest were also perceived as the most attractive.

The authors of the study also found that that there was no statistically significant portion of the female sample that had a preference for weaker looking men when evaluating male bodily attractiveness.

In addition, the researchers found that ratings of bodily attractiveness were only weakly to moderately correlated with actual measured strength at r = 0.38 (p < 0.01, when the photos of the subjects were viewed from the front). This suggests that a large part of the contribution of perceived strength to attractiveness is only an 'ornament' (similar to the function of a peacock's tail), and therefore, is not necessarily indicative of actual measured strength. The researchers state that it could also be that some things that contribute to actual measured strength are not viewed as attractive: e.g. excess fat storage.

Quotes:

• Ratings of strength are a robust and much larger predictor of bodily attractiveness than either height or weight.
• None of the 160 women in our study who rated attractiveness produced a statistically significant preference for weaker men (all p > 0.05) ... In other words, we could find no evidence that there exists a sizeable population of women who prefer physically weaker men when evaluating male bodies.
• Height is attractive even independent of making a man look strong. Controlling for how strong a man actually looks, raters still classify taller men as more attractive in two of the three samples.
• Weight is unattractive after controlling for how strong a man looks...this is consistent with the hypothesis that women's mate choice mechanisms respond to muscle mass positively but large stores of body fat negatively.
• Height, weight and ratings of strength collectively account for approximately 80% of the variance in male bodily attractiveness.
• Cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness.
• Contrary to popular theories of men's physical attractiveness, there was no evidence of a nonlinear effect; the strongest men were the most attractive in all samples.

References:

• Sell A, Lukazweski AW, Townsley M. 2017. Cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness. Proceedings of the Royal Society B. 284: 1869. [FullText]

Lazy copers are missing so much pussy every single day.

bump slay 3-5 any day with ripped body easily tbh ngl, just dont use CREATINE boyos! Its fasten male pattern baldness the risk isnt worth it and bloat too

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

Revolutionary idea

 

[nvck_pilled]

bump slay 3-5 any day with ripped body easily tbh ngl, just dont use CREATINE boyos! Its fasten male pattern baldness the risk isnt worth it and bloat too

creatine doesn't cause mpb, the water retention is at a microscopic intramuscular level

 

[TITUS]

Interesting share. need to look up on it. I don't understand how the excluded online dating, since nowadays with youth online dating is the most common way of meeting new potential partners.

I need to read up on the full text.

It basically says.
" . Results from ... revealed that physical dominance, but not sexual attractiveness, predicted mating success."

That's unexpected to me.
I thought.
Attactiveness = number 1 factor
Dominance = top 3 factor but not 1.

That's because in a real life scenario the threat of physical violence or intimidation is enough for the bigger guy to get the women. In online dating there is no real physical interaction and competition.

 

[BonesAndHarmony]

Just be a strong man with healthy T levels theory again

 

[Deleted member 4464]

View attachment 590756

now imagine him with average body, he will look way worse

 

[eduardkoopman]

As a manlet your better off super lean

 

[bonsai]

now imagine him with average body, he will look way worse

yeah, from subsubhuman to subhuman

 

[eduardkoopman]

Inb4 someone posts comparsion of lanky male model and gymcel uggo

truth. the should compare equaly-ish faced dudes. with and whithout muscles.
I do recal Zyzz. He went fro invisible man, to very viseable

 

[Deleted member 4464]

yeah, from subsubhuman to subhuman

"eveything you do is pointless if it doesnt make you instantly visible to women" - you

 

[Chadelite]

They're very young and probably low t, the blind spot of this forum is the power of body and roids they cannot even begin to fathom how much of a difference it makes with foids, its not even funny

Bro ur talking abt the delusional prettyboy twinks

@Kingkellz made RTT

 

[Deleted member 110]

most gym manlets are bloated af with bad frame and insertions and thus look disgusting
Muscles on manlet can come off as super tryhard and people calling you out for it

Thats why i said before building huge amount of muscles get lean base look first and from then judge on your next steps