Why Heights is the MOST important factor for your appearance

[Brava]

height makes people respect you but your face makes them fall in love with you

its who you are to others and what people think of when they think of "you"

the reason a lot of men cuck themselves into believing taller men are their superiors is because they dont have the face to mog them

and they use it as an excuse to overrate themselves

height is a villainous feature in that it makes people respect and fear you

but a beautiful face is a heroic feature in that it makes people love and adore you

theres a reason why in most superhero and fantasy media the heroes are always smaller but more handsome whereas the villains are larger and more ogre like

because whilst height and size incites fear and dominion beauty makes you fall for someone and makes you want to connect with them

it shows that being beautiful is the real main character energy not being tall

Yea bro if your 5’5 and have a good face your life will be all sunshine and rainbows

 

[Brava]

DNR anything but the titles of each reason, but being taller is only good for dating preference being tall and having a unattractive face will give a creepy first impression rather than a good respected intimating confident look, also the higher salary is just most likely for more attractive people that happen to be tall I doubt any of those higher salary people are sub 5 facially and are just praised for height, being a taller man doesn't automatically mean better base just means better height genetics, height matters but face matters the most, unless you don't care about mutual attraction, and a cuck who only wants women to like you for your height

Yea just no, 3% of the whole world population is above six feet. 14% in the USA. Being taller is a superior trait and you get that superior treatment from others. Face dosent matter most. I mean technically yes but my point is that height is as easily changeable as face is.

 

[SickendExistence]

Yea just no, 3% of the whole world population is above six feet. 14% in the USA. Being taller is a superior trait and you get that superior treatment from others. Face dosent matter most. I mean technically yes but my point is that height is as easily changeable as face is.

Not necessarily, height I would say is hard to change with most procedures and ped only improving you by only a few inches at most height is purely genetic unless your pinning gh at 6 most things won’t improve you you by much unlike being able to fully reconstruct the bone structure in your face

 

[Brava]

Not necessarily, height I would say is hard to change with most procedures and ped only improving you by only a few inches at most height is purely genetic unless your pinning gh at 6 most things won’t improve you you by much unlike being able to fully reconstruct the bone structure in your face

I respect your opinion

 

[Dondraper75]

Yea bro if your 5’5 and have a good face your life will be all sunshine and rainbows

You still have a good life regardless


And what's funny is people say this

But don't apply this logic to being 6'2 and sub3

Like do people not understand that extremes apply the other way

To make face vs height comparisons fair you have to make the distribution fair and equal

Like top 1% face and top 50% height vs top 1% height and top 50% face

Only then is it a fair comparison

 

[rawhoneylover67]

Dnr face matters more

1. Height & First Impressions
Studies show taller people are often looked as:
More dominant
More confident
More competent
More leader-like
Walk into a room your presence is felt more when your 6ft+ then when your a 5'5 manlet. Obviously the taller the better presence you will have.
Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10480859/
View attachment 4672689 (99% will notice the height first but might not alwasy admit it)
View attachment 4672694 same thing here, like face isnt recongnized first the taller dude has a bigger prescense.

2. Dating Preferences
Its a fact women nowadays prefer taller men. EVERY inch after average height (world: 171 cm USA: 174 cm) your smv increases. Percantages im not sure but id assume after like 6'2 it skyrockets and i'd after 6'8 it probably goes lower. The percentage of women who dont mind the height of their man is getting lower and lower by every year.

• This is kind of tied to my first point but most women want to feel safe, dominated (in a way), and just more desirable. Which in a short man you arent getting

Sources: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020

3. Taller men have a better base then shorter men
What I mean by this is take two Men/boys who are both ugly, not well dressed, no confidence etc. But have one be 6'4 and the other be 5'7. Atleast the tall chopped one has the fact that he is tall, not only can he get girls just from that fact alone, but he can also build his confidence off that, and lets say he does truly ascend even if its by a tier or two his smv will skyrocket and he will be in a different a whole different position in life if he plays his cards correctly. Meanwhile the other dude even if he ascends to like htn, hes short! girls are gonna admire his face but he'll always framemogged (lol), heightmogged, and his presence wont be felt as much as the bigger guys.

4. Economic & Leadership Outcomes
There are studies showing:

Taller men tend to earn slightly more on average.
Taller individuals are overrepresented among CEOs.

Just from your height something many would say you can control, just off that earning more and being presented more among ceo's.

But this does not fully mean height causes success. It likely reflects:

• Social bias
• Confidence development
• Early life advantages (nutrition, health, etc.)

Which still is harder to achieve these stuff when your shorter.

But still the taller you are the more money you will earn (from the studies)

View attachment 4672707 Notice how all these countries have the highest average height and are earning the most money out of all the countries


Sources: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rebecca-perrault_58-of-fortune-500-ceos-are-over-6-feet-tall-activity-7336066728008798209-yrfx#:~:text=8mo-,58% of Fortune 500 CEOs are over 6 feet tall,believe define a great leader?

Standing tall pays off, study finds

The findings suggest that someone who is 6 feet tall earns, on average, nearly $166,000 more during a 30-year career than someone who is 5 feet 5 inches, even when controlling for gender, age and weight.

www.apa.org

The Perceived Benefits of Height: Strength, Dominance, Social Concern, and Knowledge among Bolivian Native Amazonians - PMC

Research in industrial countries suggests that, with no other knowledge about a person, positive traits are attributed to taller people and correspondingly, that taller people have slightly better socioeconomic status (SES). However, research in ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Stature and status: Height, ability, and labor market outcomes - PMC

The well-known association between height and earnings is often thought to reflect factors such as self esteem, social dominance, and discrimination. We offer a simpler explanation: height is positively associated with cognitive ability, which is ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Outliers
Yes I know there are people who are under average height and mog, but those guys are all statusmaxxed. Moneymaxxing and statusmaxxing literally can save anyone from anything.

But yet these outliers still catch strays about their height (Maybe not for the famous dudes like ian sommerholder, tom cruise, and the other)

There are looksmaxxing creators like *************, Sunshine, Kshami (maybe not him as much), and others that get constantly remminded in their comments about their height.

My point with this post
Yes I understand there are statusmaxxed outliers, and im not tryna say that its over if your short there are ways out but my point is that Height is the most important factor for your apperance. If I wouldve been defending for example the face and saying that the face attarctiviness is the most important I wouldnt say that its completly over with a chopped face. Basically the last thing I wanna say is that if you can maximize something or if you can put your efforts the most on it should be your height. Imporving height will increase your life in the most ways possible. Now to clarify something really quickly im not saying to just focus on height. obvioulst ending up tall in looking shit isnt always a good luck. but again height should be a priority the best thing that you can maximize. looks should also be a priority but just not as big. I will be making another revised post about this in the future with better evidence and better claims.

Thank you for reading this post, Have a good night/day

 

[White_Bwoi]

Ive been telling this for years, if you're not TALL - you're automatically a JOKE to 90% women...
You can override this with muh status/money/nt cope's but then gtfo to redpill and 'grind' jfl

Other story is when you have both, than you can easily steal tallfags GF's even when they heightmog you, but you can't be Daniel Radcliffe height and expect to be taken seriously even at htn+, maybe in some hobbit countries like Mexico

 

[Brava]

Dnr face matters more

Yea bro if you are 5’6 and have a good face life will be amazing

 

[rawhoneylover67]

Yea bro if you are 5’6 and have a good face life will be amazing

Just fraud to 5’8

 

[tomdwane]

1. Height & First Impressions
Studies show taller people are often looked as:
More dominant
More confident
More competent
More leader-like
Walk into a room your presence is felt more when your 6ft+ then when your a 5'5 manlet. Obviously the taller the better presence you will have.
Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10480859/
View attachment 4672689 (99% will notice the height first but might not alwasy admit it)
View attachment 4672694 same thing here, like face isnt recongnized first the taller dude has a bigger prescense.

2. Dating Preferences
Its a fact women nowadays prefer taller men. EVERY inch after average height (world: 171 cm USA: 174 cm) your smv increases. Percantages im not sure but id assume after like 6'2 it skyrockets and i'd after 6'8 it probably goes lower. The percentage of women who dont mind the height of their man is getting lower and lower by every year.

• This is kind of tied to my first point but most women want to feel safe, dominated (in a way), and just more desirable. Which in a short man you arent getting

Sources: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020

3. Taller men have a better base then shorter men
What I mean by this is take two Men/boys who are both ugly, not well dressed, no confidence etc. But have one be 6'4 and the other be 5'7. Atleast the tall chopped one has the fact that he is tall, not only can he get girls just from that fact alone, but he can also build his confidence off that, and lets say he does truly ascend even if its by a tier or two his smv will skyrocket and he will be in a different a whole different position in life if he plays his cards correctly. Meanwhile the other dude even if he ascends to like htn, hes short! girls are gonna admire his face but he'll always framemogged (lol), heightmogged, and his presence wont be felt as much as the bigger guys.

4. Economic & Leadership Outcomes
There are studies showing:

Taller men tend to earn slightly more on average.
Taller individuals are overrepresented among CEOs.

Just from your height something many would say you can control, just off that earning more and being presented more among ceo's.

But this does not fully mean height causes success. It likely reflects:

• Social bias
• Confidence development
• Early life advantages (nutrition, health, etc.)

Which still is harder to achieve these stuff when your shorter.

But still the taller you are the more money you will earn (from the studies)

View attachment 4672707 Notice how all these countries have the highest average height and are earning the most money out of all the countries


Sources: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rebecca-perrault_58-of-fortune-500-ceos-are-over-6-feet-tall-activity-7336066728008798209-yrfx#:~:text=8mo-,58% of Fortune 500 CEOs are over 6 feet tall,believe define a great leader?

Standing tall pays off, study finds

The findings suggest that someone who is 6 feet tall earns, on average, nearly $166,000 more during a 30-year career than someone who is 5 feet 5 inches, even when controlling for gender, age and weight.

www.apa.org

The Perceived Benefits of Height: Strength, Dominance, Social Concern, and Knowledge among Bolivian Native Amazonians - PMC

Research in industrial countries suggests that, with no other knowledge about a person, positive traits are attributed to taller people and correspondingly, that taller people have slightly better socioeconomic status (SES). However, research in ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Stature and status: Height, ability, and labor market outcomes - PMC

The well-known association between height and earnings is often thought to reflect factors such as self esteem, social dominance, and discrimination. We offer a simpler explanation: height is positively associated with cognitive ability, which is ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Outliers
Yes I know there are people who are under average height and mog, but those guys are all statusmaxxed. Moneymaxxing and statusmaxxing literally can save anyone from anything.

But yet these outliers still catch strays about their height (Maybe not for the famous dudes like ian sommerholder, tom cruise, and the other)

There are looksmaxxing creators like *************, Sunshine, Kshami (maybe not him as much), and others that get constantly remminded in their comments about their height.

My point with this post
Yes I understand there are statusmaxxed outliers, and im not tryna say that its over if your short there are ways out but my point is that Height is the most important factor for your apperance. If I wouldve been defending for example the face and saying that the face attarctiviness is the most important I wouldnt say that its completly over with a chopped face. Basically the last thing I wanna say is that if you can maximize something or if you can put your efforts the most on it should be your height. Imporving height will increase your life in the most ways possible. Now to clarify something really quickly im not saying to just focus on height. obvioulst ending up tall in looking shit isnt always a good luck. but again height should be a priority the best thing that you can maximize. looks should also be a priority but just not as big. I will be making another revised post about this in the future with better evidence and better claims.

Thank you for reading this post, Have a good night/day

Are there many studies comparing attraction between a 5”8 chad. 5”11 htn and a 6”3+ mtn (or similar). I saw in reels that the same hormone is released when girls see a tall guy to when they see an attractive guy so they can’t differentiate the feeling properly so tall sub-5s will preform well in dating. Is that true to the best of your knowledge? Obviously no one will argue that height isn’t the second most important factor but to what degree does height matter if the shorter guy is better looking (assuming the girl isn’t taller). Also frame is way more important than people think especially if they are below 6”2. If a one inch difference between guys is present usually the one with a better frame will have more presence. But yeah if your <=5”8 it’s rough.

 

[Brava]

Are there many studies comparing attraction between a 5”8 chad. 5”11 htn and a 6”3+ mtn (or similar). I saw in reels that the same hormone is released when girls see a tall guy to when they see an attractive guy so they can’t differentiate the feeling properly so tall sub-5s will preform well in dating. Is that true to the best of your knowledge? Obviously no one will argue that height isn’t the second most important factor but to what degree does height matter if the shorter guy is better looking (assuming the girl isn’t taller). Also frame is way more important than people think especially if they are below 6”2. If a one inch difference between guys is present usually the one with a better frame will have more presence. But yeah if your <=5”8 it’s rough.

Are there many studies comparing attraction between a 5”8 chad. 5”11 htn and a 6”3+ mtn (or similar). I saw in reels that the same hormone is released when girls see a tall guy to when they see an attractive guy so they can’t differentiate the feeling properly so tall sub-5s will preform well in dating. Is that true to the best of your knowledge? Obviously no one will argue that height isn’t the second most important factor but to what degree does height matter if the shorter guy is better looking (assuming the girl isn’t taller). Also frame is way more important than people think especially if they are below 6”2. If a one inch difference between guys is present usually the one with a better frame will have more presence. But yeah if your <=5”8 it’s rough.

I forgot what study this was but there is a statistic that says that every height taller than the average height (so +1 inch) is a 10% increase in your smv. But you also didn’t talk about my other reasons. Not only will you have success amongst women. But amongst men you will have a bigger and more powerful/influential presence. Nobody nowadays is taking a 5’6 dude seriously unless he is A napoleon.

 

[tomdwane]

I forgot what study this was but there is a statistic that says that every height taller than the average height (so +1 inch) is a 10% increase in your smv. But you also didn’t talk about my other reasons. Not only will you have success amongst women. But amongst men you will have a bigger and more powerful/influential presence. Nobody nowadays is taking a 5’6 dude seriously unless he is A napoleon.

Oh yeah sorry I wasn’t trying to ignore that fact. Today it seems like you have to be min 6”2 to have a strong presence around males.

I read this study about the 10% per inch thing but it was talking more about the standard derivation curve and how that the amount of presence and female attention you goes up or down by more based on how close you are to average. Eg- the difference from 5”10 to 6”0 or 5”8 to 5”10 has way more of a positive impact than 6”0 to 6”2 and 5”6 to 5”8 and etc.

And just in case ao is wondering from what I have researched the ideal height is between 6”1.5 and 6”3.5 but obviously been 6”5 isn’t an issue but if ao has seen otherwise please let me know.

 

[rares54]

water

 

[Brava]

Oh yeah sorry I wasn’t trying to ignore that fact. Today it seems like you have to be min 6”2 to have a strong presence around males.

I read this study about the 10% per inch thing but it was talking more about the standard derivation curve and how that the amount of presence and female attention you goes up or down by more based on how close you are to average. Eg- the difference from 5”10 to 6”0 or 5”8 to 5”10 has way more of a positive impact than 6”0 to 6”2 and 5”6 to 5”8 and etc.

And just in case ao is wondering from what I have researched the ideal height is between 6”1.5 and 6”3.5 but obviously been 6”5 isn’t an issue but if ao has seen otherwise please let me know.

But also it depends where in the world you are at. I think putting a 6’5 dude in Timor leste (average male height there is 5’3) you would get all the girls. But like 6’5 in the Netherlands where the average height is 6’0 you’d be presented and treated differently. That’s where you will need a good face card to save you

 

[tomdwane]

But also it depends where in the world you are at. I think putting a 6’5 dude in Timor leste (average male height there is 5’3) you would get all the girls. But like 6’5 in the Netherlands where the average height is 6’0 you’d be presented and treated differently. That’s where you will need a good face card to save you

Yeah 100% that’s why it’s based of the standard derivation curve. Based on how much better you are than the average. Goes for all aspects of “looksmaxxing”. All relative.

Once you are 1 inch above or below the average height it’s all the face.

 

[Brava]

Yeah 100% that’s why it’s based of the standard derivation curve. Based on how much better you are than the average. Goes for all aspects of “looksmaxxing”. All relative.

Once you are 1 inch above or below the average height it’s all the face.

Yea because you need to make up for that lack in height. If you were Mtn facially and 6’6 you would be the king of the city cause you could pull any girl. It would be much harder for a girl to reject you then not

 

[tomdwane]

Yea because you need to make up for that lack in height. If you were Mtn facially and 6’6 you would be the king of the city cause you could pull any girl. It would be much harder for a girl to reject you then not

Tbh I don’t know why girls like height so much. It get it biologically but I find it very frustrating talking to someone a lot taller than be. For me the perfect height difference is 3 inches but that also lines up with male biology so ig same goes for women and their 8inch diff

 

[Brava]

Tbh I don’t know why girls like height so much. It get it biologically but I find it very frustrating talking to someone a lot taller than be. For me the perfect height difference is 3 inches but that also lines up with male biology so ig same goes for women and their 8inch diff

I’m kinda the opposite. I want a bigger height difference. But the girls just want to feel safe. And honestly even aesthetically taller men look better. Even if let’s say in a world where height dosent matter at all no where. I would still if I had a choice be tall. I’m 6’0 and I still feel short sometimes. I’m so deep into this shit that even 5’9 people threaten me ( in like a way that makes me think I’m not tall enough) I really hope to reach 6’2 minimum

 

[tomdwane]

I’m kinda the opposite. I want a bigger height difference. But the girls just want to feel safe. And honestly even aesthetically taller men look better. Even if let’s say in a world where height dosent matter at all no where. I would still if I had a choice be tall. I’m 6’0 and I still feel short sometimes. I’m so deep into this shit that even 5’9 people threaten me ( in like a way that makes me think I’m not tall enough) I really hope to reach 6’2 minimum

I hope you get there brother. I’m only 5”11 and it’s pretty brutal. Hoping to gain another 3-4 cm from APT recovery and potentially gh. Don’t get bogged down on it though at 6”0 you still receive slight halo effect.

 

[Brava]

I hope you get there brother. I’m only 5”11 and it’s pretty brutal. Hoping to gain another 3-4 cm from APT recovery and potentially gh. Don’t get bogged down on it though at 6”0 you still receive slight halo effect.

I think I will. Statistically speaking considering my age and where I’m at In puberty. But I’m just scared of the fact of if I won’t get there. But still gotta keep hope up

 

[notJohanL]

Goes height, face,frame muscle face and height are on the similar levels it’s interchangeable but i think it’s height 1st personally

 

[Brava]

Goes height, face,frame muscle face and height are on the similar levels it’s interchangeable but i think it’s height 1st personally

Yes facts