Why HGH is cope.

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Why hgh is cope for height:

Exogenous hGH is not some magic drug for height growth unless you are truly growth-hormone deficient and treated early. In normal or near-normal adolescents, hGH increases short-term growth velocity, but not final adult height. What determines final height is how long the growth plates stay open and how fast they senesce, which is driven by estrogen signaling, not GH itself. Even in prepubertal treatment, the average adult height gain is often only a few centimeters (3-6cm) and much of the apparent “growth” is just pulling growth forward in time rather than increasing the final endpoint. Another common cope however, is “let me just take an AI with it”, while this might sound good on paper, low estrogen comes with many side effects and only gives meaningful impact if you have had low estrogen for an extended period of time.



Why hgh is cope for facial bone growth:

hGH is also cope for facial bone growth, and a big reason is remodeling biology. Most craniofacial bones have low osteoblast turnover rates compared to long bones during growth, especially after early adolescence. Outside of early developmental windows, these bones primarily undergo slow surface remodeling and density changes, not robust appositional growth. GH can stimulate IGF-1 and osteoblast activity systemically, but if the baseline remodeling rate is low, there is nothing meaningful to amplify. Data show that even in GH-deficient patients, facial changes are modest and inconsistent, usually limited to slight mandibular length changes or altered proportions, not real widening of the zygomas or forward midface expansion. In non-deficient individuals, GH mainly affects soft tissue thickness, cartilage, and bone density. (BONE DENSITY IS INTERNAL, NOTHING TO DO WITH WIDTH)Also, we need to understand that exogenous GH is not localized. GH and downstream IGF-1 act systemically, and their skeletal effects are preferentially allocated to bones with high turnover and mechanical demand, not to bones you wish would grow. The bones that “need it most” are long bones during active growth, vertebrae, and weight-bearing structures where remodeling rates and strain-induced signaling are highest. Craniofacial bones, especially the zygomas and maxilla, sit at the opposite end of that spectrum.


(If you have a contention to this please let me know since I’m always interested in gaining new information.
 
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dnr but i used hgh for 3 months 8 iu a day and didnt saw any changes
stopped using 4 days ago
 
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dnr but by itsself obviously but the whole point is combining it with androgens lol
 
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dnr but i used hgh for 3 months 8 iu a day and didnt saw any changes
stopped using 4 days ago
not long enough, you needed to slowly build up and injection twice a day. 4 iu morning 4 iu night. otherwise your body will spend ALOT of time trying to regulate the extra levels
 
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High IQ but your also suppose to par hgh with androgens
 
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not long enough, you needed to slowly build up and injection twice a day. 4 iu morning 4 iu night. otherwise your body will spend ALOT of time trying to regulate the extra levels
i mean i dont rlly care i did it cuz i was bored lmao
 
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Why hgh is cope for height:

Exogenous hGH is not some magic drug for height growth unless you are truly growth-hormone deficient and treated early. In normal or near-normal adolescents, hGH increases short-term growth velocity, but not final adult height. What determines final height is how long the growth plates stay open and how fast they senesce, which is driven by estrogen signaling, not GH itself. Even in prepubertal treatment, the average adult height gain is often only a few centimeters (3-6cm) and much of the apparent “growth” is just pulling growth forward in time rather than increasing the final endpoint. Another common cope however, is “let me just take an AI with it”, while this might sound good on paper, low estrogen comes with many side effects and only gives meaningful impact if you have had low estrogen for an extended period of time.



Why hgh is cope for facial bone growth:

hGH is also cope for facial bone growth, and a big reason is remodeling biology. Most craniofacial bones have low osteoblast turnover rates compared to long bones during growth, especially after early adolescence. Outside of early developmental windows, these bones primarily undergo slow surface remodeling and density changes, not robust appositional growth. GH can stimulate IGF-1 and osteoblast activity systemically, but if the baseline remodeling rate is low, there is nothing meaningful to amplify. Data show that even in GH-deficient patients, facial changes are modest and inconsistent, usually limited to slight mandibular length changes or altered proportions, not real widening of the zygomas or forward midface expansion. In non-deficient individuals, GH mainly affects soft tissue thickness, cartilage, and bone density. (BONE DENSITY IS INTERNAL, NOTHING TO DO WITH WIDTH)Also, we need to understand that exogenous GH is not localized. GH and downstream IGF-1 act systemically, and their skeletal effects are preferentially allocated to bones with high turnover and mechanical demand, not to bones you wish would grow. The bones that “need it most” are long bones during active growth, vertebrae, and weight-bearing structures where remodeling rates and strain-induced signaling are highest. Craniofacial bones, especially the zygomas and maxilla, sit at the opposite end of that spectrum.


(If you have a contention to this please let me know since I’m always interested in gaining new information.
Could you provide the studies? I’d like to see the participant distribution, because if their growth plates are already closed, of course no growth would occur. Also, most studies I’ve read don’t simulate natural hgh spikes, so the body takes a long time to regulate levels, which slows any observable progress.
 
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Could you provide the studies? I’d like to see the participant distribution, because if their growth plates are already closed, of course no growth would occur. Also, most studies I’ve read don’t simulate natural hgh spikes, so the body takes a long time to regulate levels, which slows any observable progress.
all gh studies on adolescents are studies done on people with open plates + you can’t stimulate natural hgh spikes with exogenous
 
all gh studies on adolescents are studies done on people with open plates + you can’t stimulate natural hgh spikes with exogenous
You can not with perfection though, gh spikes right when you wake up and sleep. So if you inject at those times than your adding more gh into those spikes. Anyway I am going to try it myself and if its cope than I will get back too you
 
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You can not with perfection though, gh spikes right when you wake up and sleep. So if you inject at those times than your adding more gh into those spikes. Anyway I am going to try it myself and if its cope than I will get back too you
its not as easy as just injecting when you sleep and wake up, theres mechanism in place that make this not perfect
 
High IQ but your also suppose to par hgh with androgens
Haven't looked too much into hgh since my plates are closed, but why are you supposed to pair it with androgens?
 
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Haven't looked too much into hgh since my plates are closed, but why are you supposed to pair it with androgens?
creates a synergistic effect
 
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High iq thread
 
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Why hgh is cope for height:

Exogenous hGH is not some magic drug for height growth unless you are truly growth-hormone deficient and treated early. In normal or near-normal adolescents, hGH increases short-term growth velocity, but not final adult height. What determines final height is how long the growth plates stay open and how fast they senesce, which is driven by estrogen signaling, not GH itself. Even in prepubertal treatment, the average adult height gain is often only a few centimeters (3-6cm) and much of the apparent “growth” is just pulling growth forward in time rather than increasing the final endpoint. Another common cope however, is “let me just take an AI with it”, while this might sound good on paper, low estrogen comes with many side effects and only gives meaningful impact if you have had low estrogen for an extended period of time.



Why hgh is cope for facial bone growth:

hGH is also cope for facial bone growth, and a big reason is remodeling biology. Most craniofacial bones have low osteoblast turnover rates compared to long bones during growth, especially after early adolescence. Outside of early developmental windows, these bones primarily undergo slow surface remodeling and density changes, not robust appositional growth. GH can stimulate IGF-1 and osteoblast activity systemically, but if the baseline remodeling rate is low, there is nothing meaningful to amplify. Data show that even in GH-deficient patients, facial changes are modest and inconsistent, usually limited to slight mandibular length changes or altered proportions, not real widening of the zygomas or forward midface expansion. In non-deficient individuals, GH mainly affects soft tissue thickness, cartilage, and bone density. (BONE DENSITY IS INTERNAL, NOTHING TO DO WITH WIDTH)Also, we need to understand that exogenous GH is not localized. GH and downstream IGF-1 act systemically, and their skeletal effects are preferentially allocated to bones with high turnover and mechanical demand, not to bones you wish would grow. The bones that “need it most” are long bones during active growth, vertebrae, and weight-bearing structures where remodeling rates and strain-induced signaling are highest. Craniofacial bones, especially the zygomas and maxilla, sit at the opposite end of that spectrum.


(If you have a contention to this please let me know since I’m always interested in gaining new information.
side effects from low e2 are giga fearmongered, and even then you likely crush your e2 and replace it with 17a estradiol to keep your organs and brain nice and protected

congrats on escaping greyceldom brah :p:p
 
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creates a synergistic effect
So on paper GH with androgens are not cope? DR everything.. very high iq post but out there are literally studies which are showing that kids/teens got saved from dwarfism by rhGH. It might be partly true what you said. Its def overrated imo but you cant try to convey that HGH is fully and completely cope.
 
So on paper GH with androgens are not cope? DR everything.. very high iq post but out there are literally studies which are showing that kids/teens got saved from dwarfism by rhGH. It might be partly true what you said. Its def overrated imo but you cant try to convey that HGH is fully and completely cope.
DNR it’s obviously not cope for deficient people, that’s not the point :lul:
 
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You can not with perfection though, gh spikes right when you wake up and sleep. So if you inject at those times than your adding more gh into those spikes. Anyway I am going to try it myself and if its cope than I will get back too you
lmk what happens brah
 
Why hgh is cope for height:

Exogenous hGH is not some magic drug for height growth unless you are truly growth-hormone deficient and treated early. In normal or near-normal adolescents, hGH increases short-term growth velocity, but not final adult height. What determines final height is how long the growth plates stay open and how fast they senesce, which is driven by estrogen signaling, not GH itself. Even in prepubertal treatment, the average adult height gain is often only a few centimeters (3-6cm) and much of the apparent “growth” is just pulling growth forward in time rather than increasing the final endpoint. Another common cope however, is “let me just take an AI with it”, while this might sound good on paper, low estrogen comes with many side effects and only gives meaningful impact if you have had low estrogen for an extended period of time.



Why hgh is cope for facial bone growth:

hGH is also cope for facial bone growth, and a big reason is remodeling biology. Most craniofacial bones have low osteoblast turnover rates compared to long bones during growth, especially after early adolescence. Outside of early developmental windows, these bones primarily undergo slow surface remodeling and density changes, not robust appositional growth. GH can stimulate IGF-1 and osteoblast activity systemically, but if the baseline remodeling rate is low, there is nothing meaningful to amplify. Data show that even in GH-deficient patients, facial changes are modest and inconsistent, usually limited to slight mandibular length changes or altered proportions, not real widening of the zygomas or forward midface expansion. In non-deficient individuals, GH mainly affects soft tissue thickness, cartilage, and bone density. (BONE DENSITY IS INTERNAL, NOTHING TO DO WITH WIDTH)Also, we need to understand that exogenous GH is not localized. GH and downstream IGF-1 act systemically, and their skeletal effects are preferentially allocated to bones with high turnover and mechanical demand, not to bones you wish would grow. The bones that “need it most” are long bones during active growth, vertebrae, and weight-bearing structures where remodeling rates and strain-induced signaling are highest. Craniofacial bones, especially the zygomas and maxilla, sit at the opposite end of that spectrum.


(If you have a contention to this please let me know since I’m always interested in gaining new information.
Exactly som1 with braincells here
 
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