Why I don't believe in the black pill.

[Sexually Disabled]

• The movement doesn't produce an detailed science experiments. The black pill is dependent on third party science literature as evidence, this doesn't mean that the black pill doesn't contain truth but this fact does drastically limit the questions that can be asked.
• There are 2 (two) types of followers of the black pill. The priests (the people that actually bother to research papers) and the believers (the people that reinforce the ideology by saying shit like "it's over" and "your coping"). Due to that last point (point one), the black pill incentives users (the believers) to use circular logic to disapprove instances that disapprove the black pill.

For example:

*User posts Instagram photo of a religious couple where the wife is more attractive than the husband*

Incel: "She's using him for money" "She waiting for Chad to come along" "She'll divorce rape him".

The Incel in this situation knows nothing about the couple and their opinions on why they got together. They might have gotten together due to an arranged marriage, or the fact that they're both strict followers of the same faith, or that they might be childhood sweethearts. The incel doesn't know any of this and must use doctrines of the black pill in order to substantiate him world view onto himself and others in a self-defeating loop.

• Incels don't want to admit the fact that personality is genetic. Personality factors such as agreeableness, openness, extraversion, introversion, neuroticism and conscientiousness are around 0.5 heritable. If human evolution is controlled by female selection and personality is genetic then why isn't personality isn't factored in by female selection? There is legitimate scientific literature proving that factors such as high conscientiousness have a positive correlation with high SES.
• If you believe in this shit it makes you completely blind to the personality traits of the women you plan to date. If you don't filter out women that are crazy, promiscuous and manipulative (SHOCKER!) they will cheat on you and leave you for chad. The black pill tells you to live a fast life history strategy ( think of this as HQP and LQP) which is completely maladaptive to how you have been evolved to act, instead being evolved to invest in relationship and nurture offspring.
• The black pill teaches you to hate and distrust yourself and other people which is terrible for your social skills. Women do not take Tinder seriously (it's rigged). Aside from Tinder the most popular method couples met was through social groups. If you want to increase your chances of getting women increase the number of friends you have.
• Investing in relationships isn't cucked or beta. Not having the intelligence to prevent yourself from getting cucked is. The likelihood of your genes staying in the genepool is determined by SES which can only be achieved by investing in your offspring. There are ways to prevent yourself from getting cucked (which I'll create threads about in the future) but one of them is to invest in women who are slow life history strategists (HQNP). But AWALT!!!! Pretty much all women are hypergamous but it depends on the Socioeconomic stress they're under that determines if they're going to be fast or slow life history strategists.

I don't expect anyone to read this. If there are people to the contrary of this I will provide citations to the things I've said ITT.

TL;DR - imagine getting social advice from an ideology that was written by autists.

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

tldr: he is a redditor

 

[Deleted member 17244]

not a single word you coper

 

[playboicarti]

anyone who went from ugly to decent looking can confirm the bp but autists take it to the extreme

 

[lepo2317]

anyone who went from ugly to decent looking can confirm the bp but autists take it to the extreme

It destroys op's bs theories.

 

[Sexually Disabled]

anyone who went from ugly to decent looking can confirm the bp but autists take it to the extreme

The blackpill says that looks is everything and the only to pass on your genes, it isn't.

 

[BoneDensity]

The blackpill says that looks is everything and the only to pass on your genes, it isn't.

no

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

anyone who went from ugly to decent looking can confirm the bp but autists take it to the extreme

this. OP you are no better than the autists that have gone full blackpill you have gone the opposite way and stopped believing completely

 

[Sexually Disabled]

no

give me a quick rundown on how you would describe the black pill.

 

[Johnnybegood]

The problem is that there are a lot of low iq peasants that believe that it's either chad or death. The moment the BP went this direction it committed suicide.

The BP was originally conceived because there were a lot of men that were using redpill philosophy to try to change their dating lives and were unsuccessful in doing so. And as such, there was this revolutionary new method (PSL) created to analyze why some men were naturally successful and others were not. This new rating system emphasized the face above everything else and gave a new perspective on what women find attractive.

But like every ideology, stupid people ruin everything for the rest of us and started taking this to extreme leves of autism and basement dwelling levels. And now it's become a freakshow of mentally unstable schizos and hyperventilating teenagers.

 

[Sexually Disabled]

this. OP you are no better than the autists that have gone full blackpill you have gone the opposite way and stopped believing completely

I have, I'm a neo-nihilist.

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

I have, I'm a neo-nihilist.

 

[playboicarti]

The blackpill says that looks is everything and the only to pass on your genes, it isn't.

its not but its becoming more important each year

 

[Sexually Disabled]

anyone who went from ugly to decent looking can confirm the bp but autists take it to the extreme

The black pill is more than the halo effect. The same can be said for the dating lives of men who go from poor to rich.

 

[Sexually Disabled]

its not but its becoming more important each year

Society becoming more looks oriented is because people are transitioning to a fast life history strategy which is an indicator of societal instability due to low social trust (because of many factors such as immigration, per capita of innovation decreasing, inflation etc.).

 

[Sexually Disabled]

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How do you cope without beliefs?

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

How do you cope without beliefs?

i let nihilism consume me

 

[Deleted member 9801]

Obv blackpill shouldn’t be taken too seriously as gospel. There’s so many nuances and variations

But blackpill is like 60% correct

 

[Deleted member 15827]

Obv blackpill shouldn’t be taken too seriously as gospel. There’s so many nuances and variations

But blackpill is like 60% correct

90%

 

[Sexually Disabled]

i let nihilism consume me

I am coomsumed

 

[Deleted member 9801]

90%

Too high bro

Irl u see a lot discrepancies between reality and blackpill

 

[Deleted member 19551]

Your entire word salad essay is hinged on the presupposition that blackpillers believe that looks=100% of life's importance

Only seriously deformed people have been damaged enough to say hyperbolic things like that

To me the blackpill is just a reactionary, reactive movement against the mainstream modern socialization patterns and ideals, which LARGELY underestimate the importance of looks in dating and life in general (cope). The blackpill came in to argue in favor of the mostly true idea that looks is the most important part of the equation, and even affects other parts of the equation that are non looks related (halo effect. Good looking people are perceived to be more virtuous, smarter and more hardworking)

So yes in terms of procreation looks are 100% of the equation. The fact that most of men in history navigated the blackpill successfully through beta buxxing (which is now much harder with a lot more complications) and other means like jestermaxxing or being a clown "funny" guy doesn't mean men WANT to do this to get pussy

 

[Sexually Disabled]

Your entire word salad essay is hinged on the presupposition that blackpillers believe that looks=100% of life's importance

Only seriously deformed people have been damaged enough to say hyperbolic things like that

To me the blackpill is just a reactionary, reactive movement against the mainstream modern socialization patterns and ideals, which LARGELY underestimate the importance of looks in dating and life in general (cope). The blackpill came in to argue in favor of the mostly true idea that looks is the most important part of the equation, and even affects other parts of the equation that are non looks related (halo effect. Good looking people are perceived to be more virtuous, smarter and more hardworking)

So yes in terms of procreation looks are 100% of the equation. The fact that most of men in history navigated the blackpill successfully through beta buxxing (which is now much harder with a lot more complications) and other means like jestermaxxing or being a clown "funny" guy doesn't mean men WANT to do this to get pussy

betabuxxing and jestermaxxing imply low status.

 

[Lawton88]

Reality is probably a mixture of blackpill and redpill but it has definitely went more blackpill as OLD and social media took off combined with most females working now.

 

[Deleted member 19551]

Reality is probably a mixture of blackpill and redpill but it has definitely went more blackpill as OLD and social media took off combined with most females working now.

Social media and the industrial revolution did nothing but facilitate and expedite the resurfacing of women's purely animalistic nature when sexually selecting men. Muh tinder muh Jewish degenracy arguments are a meme imo (not saying you made them)

The true blackpill is that women are incapable of love. They exist to serve the future of mankind, not the present individual

 

[Deleted member 4106]

The movement doesn't produce an detailed science experiments. The black pill is dependent on third party science literature as evidence, this doesn't mean that the black pill doesn't contain truth but this fact does drastically limit the questions that can be asked.

Fake
The basic premise of Black Pill is that looks matter, and there are several studies that prove this.

Incels don't want to admit the fact that personality is genetic. Personality factors such as agreeableness, openness, extraversion, introversion, neuroticism and conscientiousness are around 0.5 heritable. If human evolution is controlled by female selection and personality is genetic then why isn't personality isn't factored in by female selection? There is legitimate scientific literature proving that factors such as high conscientiousness have a positive correlation with high SES.

again fake
Personality matters, but looks is more important from a biological point of view.

If you believe in this shit it makes you completely blind to the personality traits of the women you plan to date. If you don't filter out women that are crazy, promiscuous and manipulative (SHOCKER!) they will cheat on you and leave you for chad. The black pill tells you to live a fast life history strategy ( think of this as HQP and LQP) which is completely maladaptive to how you have been evolved to act, instead being evolved to invest in relationship and nurture offspring.

Again fake 3x
Black pill doesn't say to live any strategy, if you should be str or ltr



The central problem of your arguments is that you do not separate the Black pill ideology from the Black pill members.
Most of your criticisms are about the members, not the ideology

 

[KING REIDYZ]

• The movement doesn't produce an detailed science experiments. The black pill is dependent on third party science literature as evidence, this doesn't mean that the black pill doesn't contain truth but this fact does drastically limit the questions that can be asked.
• There are 2 (two) types of followers of the black pill. The priests (the people that actually bother to research papers) and the believers (the people that reinforce the ideology by saying shit like "it's over" and "your coping"). Due to that last point (point one), the black pill incentives users (the believers) to use circular logic to disapprove instances that disapprove the black pill.

For example:

*User posts Instagram photo of a religious couple where the wife is more attractive than the husband*

Incel: "She's using him for money" "She waiting for Chad to come along" "She'll divorce rape him".

The Incel in this situation knows nothing about the couple and their opinions on why they got together. They might have gotten together due to an arranged marriage, or the fact that they're both strict followers of the same faith, or that they might be childhood sweethearts. The incel doesn't know any of this and must use doctrines of the black pill in order to substantiate him world view onto himself and others in a self-defeating loop.

• Incels don't want to admit the fact that personality is genetic. Personality factors such as agreeableness, openness, extraversion, introversion, neuroticism and conscientiousness are around 0.5 heritable. If human evolution is controlled by female selection and personality is genetic then why isn't personality isn't factored in by female selection? There is legitimate scientific literature proving that factors such as high conscientiousness have a positive correlation with high SES.
• If you believe in this shit it makes you completely blind to the personality traits of the women you plan to date. If you don't filter out women that are crazy, promiscuous and manipulative (SHOCKER!) they will cheat on you and leave you for chad. The black pill tells you to live a fast life history strategy ( think of this as HQP and LQP) which is completely maladaptive to how you have been evolved to act, instead being evolved to invest in relationship and nurture offspring.
• The black pill teaches you to hate and distrust yourself and other people which is terrible for your social skills. Women do not take Tinder seriously (it's rigged). Aside from Tinder the most popular method couples met was through social groups. If you want to increase your chances of getting women increase the number of friends you have.
• Investing in relationships isn't cucked or beta. Not having the intelligence to prevent yourself from getting cucked is. The likelihood of your genes staying in the genepool is determined by SES which can only be achieved by investing in your offspring. There are ways to prevent yourself from getting cucked (which I'll create threads about in the future) but one of them is to invest in women who are slow life history strategists (HQNP). But AWALT!!!! Pretty much all women are hypergamous but it depends on the Socioeconomic stress they're under that determines if they're going to be fast or slow life history strategists.

I don't expect anyone to read this. If there are people to the contrary of this I will provide citations to the things I've said ITT.

TL;DR - imagine getting social advice from an ideology that was written by autists.

 

[Deleted member 4106]

The problem is that there are a lot of low iq peasants that believe that it's either chad or death. The moment the BP went this direction it committed suicide.

Most of the time this is just a meme.

The blackpill says that looks is everything and the only to pass on your genes, it isn't.

Lms=Looks,money and status

 

[Renai]

• The movement doesn't produce an detailed science experiments.

thats like making experiments to find out if water is wet.

 

[ezio6]

Always open to new ideas and debate about the blackpill, if you can take opposite point of view without getting triggered then ure might be legit , nothing as black and white

 

[Deleted member 20179]

I don't believe in it like someone would a religion, with 100% certainty. But I think most of it is legit

 

[mighty_oat]

The black pill tells you to live a fast life history strategy ( think of this as HQP and LQP) which is completely maladaptive to how you have been evolved to act, instead being evolved to invest in relationship and nurture offspring.

This needs more recognition. A proportion of nerdy 'incel' like guys are the kinds of men that naturally want to find love and invest in their offspring. If you belong to that demographic then using fast life history strategies could damage your physiological health, as you are forcing yourself to act in ways that feel unnatural or conflict with your own values. By all means I think it's good to work on yourself and your appearance, but don't put too much value in sex or sleeping around if you feel it's bad for you.

 

[can’t relate]

Society becoming more looks oriented is because people are transitioning to a fast life history strategy which is an indicator of societal instability due to low social trust (because of many factors such as immigration, per capita of innovation decreasing, inflation etc.).

How do you acquire such knowledge? Like th ability to know society and how it functions in an out such as how you even know terminology like “fast life history strategy” indicating societal instability? I want to be able to read and understand and analyse society like this and people. Which specific disciplines encompass this information? Also, do you possess any books on these topics so that I can gain knowledge similar to yours? I always find myself interested in learning about subjects related to society, and whenever people discuss society, they often mention fields such as evolutionary psychology and social anthropology. I aspire to possess the same extensive knowledge library that you do.

 

[Skywalker]

you were only PARTLY correct
the blackpill doesnt MAKE you do anything.....

 

[UZB_Strebl]

• The movement doesn't produce an detailed science experiments. The black pill is dependent on third party science literature as evidence, this doesn't mean that the black pill doesn't contain truth but this fact does drastically limit the questions that can be asked.
• There are 2 (two) types of followers of the black pill. The priests (the people that actually bother to research papers) and the believers (the people that reinforce the ideology by saying shit like "it's over" and "your coping"). Due to that last point (point one), the black pill incentives users (the believers) to use circular logic to disapprove instances that disapprove the black pill.

For example:

*User posts Instagram photo of a religious couple where the wife is more attractive than the husband*

Incel: "She's using him for money" "She waiting for Chad to come along" "She'll divorce rape him".

The Incel in this situation knows nothing about the couple and their opinions on why they got together. They might have gotten together due to an arranged marriage, or the fact that they're both strict followers of the same faith, or that they might be childhood sweethearts. The incel doesn't know any of this and must use doctrines of the black pill in order to substantiate him world view onto himself and others in a self-defeating loop.

• Incels don't want to admit the fact that personality is genetic. Personality factors such as agreeableness, openness, extraversion, introversion, neuroticism and conscientiousness are around 0.5 heritable. If human evolution is controlled by female selection and personality is genetic then why isn't personality isn't factored in by female selection? There is legitimate scientific literature proving that factors such as high conscientiousness have a positive correlation with high SES.
• If you believe in this shit it makes you completely blind to the personality traits of the women you plan to date. If you don't filter out women that are crazy, promiscuous and manipulative (SHOCKER!) they will cheat on you and leave you for chad. The black pill tells you to live a fast life history strategy ( think of this as HQP and LQP) which is completely maladaptive to how you have been evolved to act, instead being evolved to invest in relationship and nurture offspring.
• The black pill teaches you to hate and distrust yourself and other people which is terrible for your social skills. Women do not take Tinder seriously (it's rigged). Aside from Tinder the most popular method couples met was through social groups. If you want to increase your chances of getting women increase the number of friends you have.
• Investing in relationships isn't cucked or beta. Not having the intelligence to prevent yourself from getting cucked is. The likelihood of your genes staying in the genepool is determined by SES which can only be achieved by investing in your offspring. There are ways to prevent yourself from getting cucked (which I'll create threads about in the future) but one of them is to invest in women who are slow life history strategists (HQNP). But AWALT!!!! Pretty much all women are hypergamous but it depends on the Socioeconomic stress they're under that determines if they're going to be fast or slow life history strategists.

I don't expect anyone to read this. If there are people to the contrary of this I will provide citations to the things I've said ITT.

TL;DR - imagine getting social advice from an ideology that was written by autists.

JFL white pill to the day I die black pill is just what lazy losers with a victim mindset follow

 

[UZB_Strebl]

• The movement doesn't produce an detailed science experiments. The black pill is dependent on third party science literature as evidence, this doesn't mean that the black pill doesn't contain truth but this fact does drastically limit the questions that can be asked.
• There are 2 (two) types of followers of the black pill. The priests (the people that actually bother to research papers) and the believers (the people that reinforce the ideology by saying shit like "it's over" and "your coping"). Due to that last point (point one), the black pill incentives users (the believers) to use circular logic to disapprove instances that disapprove the black pill.

For example:

*User posts Instagram photo of a religious couple where the wife is more attractive than the husband*

Incel: "She's using him for money" "She waiting for Chad to come along" "She'll divorce rape him".

The Incel in this situation knows nothing about the couple and their opinions on why they got together. They might have gotten together due to an arranged marriage, or the fact that they're both strict followers of the same faith, or that they might be childhood sweethearts. The incel doesn't know any of this and must use doctrines of the black pill in order to substantiate him world view onto himself and others in a self-defeating loop.

• Incels don't want to admit the fact that personality is genetic. Personality factors such as agreeableness, openness, extraversion, introversion, neuroticism and conscientiousness are around 0.5 heritable. If human evolution is controlled by female selection and personality is genetic then why isn't personality isn't factored in by female selection? There is legitimate scientific literature proving that factors such as high conscientiousness have a positive correlation with high SES.
• If you believe in this shit it makes you completely blind to the personality traits of the women you plan to date. If you don't filter out women that are crazy, promiscuous and manipulative (SHOCKER!) they will cheat on you and leave you for chad. The black pill tells you to live a fast life history strategy ( think of this as HQP and LQP) which is completely maladaptive to how you have been evolved to act, instead being evolved to invest in relationship and nurture offspring.
• The black pill teaches you to hate and distrust yourself and other people which is terrible for your social skills. Women do not take Tinder seriously (it's rigged). Aside from Tinder the most popular method couples met was through social groups. If you want to increase your chances of getting women increase the number of friends you have.
• Investing in relationships isn't cucked or beta. Not having the intelligence to prevent yourself from getting cucked is. The likelihood of your genes staying in the genepool is determined by SES which can only be achieved by investing in your offspring. There are ways to prevent yourself from getting cucked (which I'll create threads about in the future) but one of them is to invest in women who are slow life history strategists (HQNP). But AWALT!!!! Pretty much all women are hypergamous but it depends on the Socioeconomic stress they're under that determines if they're going to be fast or slow life history strategists.

I don't expect anyone to read this. If there are people to the contrary of this I will provide citations to the things I've said ITT.

TL;DR - imagine getting social advice from an ideology that was written by autists.

So much to be grateful in life And it’s very to be unable to ascend