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The purpose of this dnr was just to humiliate the op. His views on the topic are too reddit, and its also ai as u said
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Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ than you shall be saved.
Damn hella people disrespectful. this is a cool thread I think that it shows good evedince. many people nowadays are too stubborn to put any effort into religion or let alone research about it just to understand it a bit. I think its low iq to fully cut out god and think its impossible for him to be alive. both atheism and christianity can be the truth but we will never know until its too late
This is next level delusion, its sad to see what Christianity does to the mind
This is next level delusion, its sad to see what Christianity does to the mind
Me.. a Mudslime??I'm Buddhist ya goof
Sub 100 iq coping with gods
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Yo I got a question who wrote the bible again?This is a short thread for dnrcels on why I think Christianity is a coherent and logical belief system.
The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.
Religion is subjective and dependent on your inner life but as objective proof I give you Immanuel Kant’s Transcendental Argument for God (summarised by AI for attentioncels)
1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:
- Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
- The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".
2. The Critical Turn: God as a "Postulate"
In his later, more famous work (Critique of Pure Reason), Kant famously rejected all traditional "proofs" for God, including his own earlier argument. He shifted from trying to know God through theory to assuming God through ethics:
3. Summary of Kant’s Transcendental Logic
- The Moral Gap: Kant argued that humans have a "categorical imperative" (a moral duty) to pursue the Summum Bonum—the "Highest Good," where virtue is perfectly rewarded with happiness.
- Ought Implies Can: If we ought to achieve this highest good, it must be possible to achieve it.
- God as the Enabler: Since we cannot harmonize virtue and happiness on our own (bad things happen to good people), we must postulate a moral, all-powerful God who can ensure this harmony in the afterlife.
For Kant, God is a transcendental ideal—a "regulative principle" that our minds use to make sense of morality and the unity of the world, even if we can't observe Him directly. He famously said, "I had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith," meaning reason shows us the need for God, even if it cannot provide a proof of Him.
Ding ding, faggots. Time for Sunday School.
Now that we have that, we have to think: why Christianity? I’m going to put aside the religions that nobody takes seriously and the more minor religions and focus on the big players.
Christianity or Islam?
- Muhammad’s argument for the Quran is that an angel brought him the revelations that would later become the book. However, this claim is btfo’d by St Paul 500 years before Muhammad’s birth.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. - Galatians 1:8
Christianity or Buddhism?
- Buddhism generally views Christianity through the lens of skillful means (
upaya), often interpreting Jesus as a high-level Bodhisattva or an enlightened teacher rather than a divine savior.
Meaning, they want spiritual ascension and they focus on inner prayer, meditation, reflection, just like Christians. However, they deny an ultimate Creator as a source of everything. What’s wrong with that? Well, this is what they say about the Universe (AI) summary:
The Universe is viewed as a cyclical, beginningless, and endless phenomenon, operating through, and shaped by, interdependence and karma rather than a creator god. It includes diverse realms—from hellish to heavenly—inhabited by beings reborn based on their actions, with the ultimate goal being enlightenment to transcend this cycle (samsara).
So they want to transform spiritually through meditation and good deeds and improve their relationship with an immortal, ever present Universe. Basically, very close to Christian ethics and lifestyle, but without directly stating there is a deity, even if they see the Universe as kind of a deity.
So they want to be Christian but atheist at the same time. However, as the Transcendental argument for God posits, enlightenment, ethics, ascension and knowledge are ultimately impossible without a higher being.
Christianity or New Age / Satanism / Paganism / Occultism ?
- The people that adhere to the latter are mostly spiritually awake, but rebellious folk that want to lead a spiritual life, but they view the Church as either controlling, fraudmaxxed, or boring.
I believe it is inherently hypocritical of them to reject the former worldview for the latter because :
- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require a ‘suspension of disbelief’ and the willingness to trust information that seems illogical at first.
- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require the practitioner to plead for help from a higher being, offering something in return.
In Christianity, God is loving and only requires our time and desire to be better. Make no mistake however, there are other spirits out there and while they are a lot less powerful, they are far more malevolent. Most mythological gods and spirits are never shown as loving men and usually require a lot more (blood, semen, or some other kind of action). Ultimately, this will damage you in ways that are impossible to predict because the beings you are in contact with simply do not have your best interest at heart.
View attachment 4695076
Debunks to some common arguments against Christianity:
- ‘Dnr’ - you read it all, faggot. You read it all.
- ‘Christianity was a slave religion to cope with oppresion’ - as per Nietzsche and @alurmo
Jesus addresses this Himself. In Jewish prophecies, the Messiah was misinterpreted to be a political figure that liberates the Jews from Rome. However, Jesus specifies that He is not interested in politics.
Referring to a coin that bore Ceasar’s image, Jesus says
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"
(Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)
In another quote, He says:
"My kingdom is not of this world"
(John 18:36)
Jesus was always adamant that Christianity is strictly spiritual. If he had been encouraging people to rebel, the Romans would have been after Him. However, they are actually against executing him. The Roman Prefect of Judea, Pilate Pontus is ready to release Jesus. The only reason He is executed is because of the Jews’ insistence (shocking) to murder Him.
- ‘Christianity is pacifist and weak’
This often refers to the ‘Turn the other cheek’ quote, which is often misinterpreted. Yes, while we are ordered to forgive and not to seek revenge, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself.
Some Bible verses for you:
“They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down”
(Psalm 118:11)
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
(John 2:13-2:16)
- Christianity was changed/corrupted at some point:
Think about it pal. Christians endured:
Torture
Slavery
Execution on sight if they refused to honour Roman gods
Execution on sight if they refused to honour Allah.
Execution on sight if they refused to even say that the Christian God wasn’t legitimate.
Have you ever been tortured? Imagine yourself being tied up while a schizo is slicing strips of skin off your torso or burning you with a hot iron and demanding that you say you God isn’t real. I know for a fact all of us in are gonna be turning atheist real quick.
Why the FUCK would hundreds of thousands endure torture and a horrible death when they an offered an out by just saying ‘nah jk’. And don’t say they did it because they were afraid of going to Hell. St Peter, a leading apostle and the first bishop of Rome, denied God THREE times under fear of death. He was forgiven.
So you don’t automatically go to Hell if you deny God. The reason these people endured is because they knew there was something out there. Something real.
View attachment 4695296
St Michael mogging Lucifer. Brutally over for Satancels
Thank you for reading. AI was used for some summaries.
Tagging Christiancels. Tell me if I missed something:
@NatureEnjoyer_ @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Jesus is King Amen. @Jesus_ist_König
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John 15:18-19
18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
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People through divine inspiration. Who wrote the quran and the soy science studies getting published today?
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god is genderfluid trans black jew indian and redheadedThis is a short thread for dnrcels on why I think Christianity is a coherent and logical belief system.
The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.
Religion is subjective and dependent on your inner life but as objective proof I give you Immanuel Kant’s Transcendental Argument for God (summarised by AI for attentioncels)
1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:
- Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
- The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".
2. The Critical Turn: God as a "Postulate"
In his later, more famous work (Critique of Pure Reason), Kant famously rejected all traditional "proofs" for God, including his own earlier argument. He shifted from trying to know God through theory to assuming God through ethics:
3. Summary of Kant’s Transcendental Logic
- The Moral Gap: Kant argued that humans have a "categorical imperative" (a moral duty) to pursue the Summum Bonum—the "Highest Good," where virtue is perfectly rewarded with happiness.
- Ought Implies Can: If we ought to achieve this highest good, it must be possible to achieve it.
- God as the Enabler: Since we cannot harmonize virtue and happiness on our own (bad things happen to good people), we must postulate a moral, all-powerful God who can ensure this harmony in the afterlife.
For Kant, God is a transcendental ideal—a "regulative principle" that our minds use to make sense of morality and the unity of the world, even if we can't observe Him directly. He famously said, "I had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith," meaning reason shows us the need for God, even if it cannot provide a proof of Him.
Ding ding, faggots. Time for Sunday School.
Now that we have that, we have to think: why Christianity? I’m going to put aside the religions that nobody takes seriously and the more minor religions and focus on the big players.
Christianity or Islam?
- Muhammad’s argument for the Quran is that an angel brought him the revelations that would later become the book. However, this claim is btfo’d by St Paul 500 years before Muhammad’s birth.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. - Galatians 1:8
Christianity or Buddhism?
- Buddhism generally views Christianity through the lens of skillful means (
upaya), often interpreting Jesus as a high-level Bodhisattva or an enlightened teacher rather than a divine savior.
Meaning, they want spiritual ascension and they focus on inner prayer, meditation, reflection, just like Christians. However, they deny an ultimate Creator as a source of everything. What’s wrong with that? Well, this is what they say about the Universe (AI) summary:
The Universe is viewed as a cyclical, beginningless, and endless phenomenon, operating through, and shaped by, interdependence and karma rather than a creator god. It includes diverse realms—from hellish to heavenly—inhabited by beings reborn based on their actions, with the ultimate goal being enlightenment to transcend this cycle (samsara).
So they want to transform spiritually through meditation and good deeds and improve their relationship with an immortal, ever present Universe. Basically, very close to Christian ethics and lifestyle, but without directly stating there is a deity, even if they see the Universe as kind of a deity.
So they want to be Christian but atheist at the same time. However, as the Transcendental argument for God posits, enlightenment, ethics, ascension and knowledge are ultimately impossible without a higher being.
Christianity or New Age / Satanism / Paganism / Occultism ?
- The people that adhere to the latter are mostly spiritually awake, but rebellious folk that want to lead a spiritual life, but they view the Church as either controlling, fraudmaxxed, or boring.
I believe it is inherently hypocritical of them to reject the former worldview for the latter because :
- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require a ‘suspension of disbelief’ and the willingness to trust information that seems illogical at first.
- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require the practitioner to plead for help from a higher being, offering something in return.
In Christianity, God is loving and only requires our time and desire to be better. Make no mistake however, there are other spirits out there and while they are a lot less powerful, they are far more malevolent. Most mythological gods and spirits are never shown as loving men and usually require a lot more (blood, semen, or some other kind of action). Ultimately, this will damage you in ways that are impossible to predict because the beings you are in contact with simply do not have your best interest at heart.
View attachment 4695076
Debunks to some common arguments against Christianity:
- ‘Dnr’ - you read it all, faggot. You read it all.
- ‘Christianity was a slave religion to cope with oppresion’ - as per Nietzsche and @alurmo
Jesus addresses this Himself. In Jewish prophecies, the Messiah was misinterpreted to be a political figure that liberates the Jews from Rome. However, Jesus specifies that He is not interested in politics.
Referring to a coin that bore Ceasar’s image, Jesus says
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"
(Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)
In another quote, He says:
"My kingdom is not of this world"
(John 18:36)
Jesus was always adamant that Christianity is strictly spiritual. If he had been encouraging people to rebel, the Romans would have been after Him. However, they are actually against executing him. The Roman Prefect of Judea, Pilate Pontus is ready to release Jesus. The only reason He is executed is because of the Jews’ insistence (shocking) to murder Him.
- ‘Christianity is pacifist and weak’
This often refers to the ‘Turn the other cheek’ quote, which is often misinterpreted. Yes, while we are ordered to forgive and not to seek revenge, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself.
Some Bible verses for you:
“They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down”
(Psalm 118:11)
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
(John 2:13-2:16)
- Christianity was changed/corrupted at some point:
Think about it pal. Christians endured:
Torture
Slavery
Execution on sight if they refused to honour Roman gods
Execution on sight if they refused to honour Allah.
Execution on sight if they refused to even say that the Christian God wasn’t legitimate.
Have you ever been tortured? Imagine yourself being tied up while a schizo is slicing strips of skin off your torso or burning you with a hot iron and demanding that you say you God isn’t real. I know for a fact all of us in are gonna be turning atheist real quick.
Why the FUCK would hundreds of thousands endure torture and a horrible death when they an offered an out by just saying ‘nah jk’. And don’t say they did it because they were afraid of going to Hell. St Peter, a leading apostle and the first bishop of Rome, denied God THREE times under fear of death. He was forgiven.
So you don’t automatically go to Hell if you deny God. The reason these people endured is because they knew there was something out there. Something real.
View attachment 4695296
St Michael mogging Lucifer. Brutally over for Satancels
Thank you for reading. AI was used for some summaries.
Tagging Christiancels. Tell me if I missed something:
@NatureEnjoyer_ @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Jesus is King Amen. @Jesus_ist_König
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Jfl who again? Prove Paul saw Jesus jfl he didn’t even talk to Jesus
The Quran was written by well known companion of the prophet
You don’t even know who’s Paul specifically who was his parents? Any historical proof?
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“CloudyCuck” believes Christianity is legitThis is a short thread for dnrcels on why I think Christianity is a coherent and logical belief system.
The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.
Religion is subjective and dependent on your inner life but as objective proof I give you Immanuel Kant’s Transcendental Argument for God (summarised by AI for attentioncels)
1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:
- Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
- The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".
2. The Critical Turn: God as a "Postulate"
In his later, more famous work (Critique of Pure Reason), Kant famously rejected all traditional "proofs" for God, including his own earlier argument. He shifted from trying to know God through theory to assuming God through ethics:
3. Summary of Kant’s Transcendental Logic
- The Moral Gap: Kant argued that humans have a "categorical imperative" (a moral duty) to pursue the Summum Bonum—the "Highest Good," where virtue is perfectly rewarded with happiness.
- Ought Implies Can: If we ought to achieve this highest good, it must be possible to achieve it.
- God as the Enabler: Since we cannot harmonize virtue and happiness on our own (bad things happen to good people), we must postulate a moral, all-powerful God who can ensure this harmony in the afterlife.
For Kant, God is a transcendental ideal—a "regulative principle" that our minds use to make sense of morality and the unity of the world, even if we can't observe Him directly. He famously said, "I had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith," meaning reason shows us the need for God, even if it cannot provide a proof of Him.
Ding ding, faggots. Time for Sunday School.
Now that we have that, we have to think: why Christianity? I’m going to put aside the religions that nobody takes seriously and the more minor religions and focus on the big players.
Christianity or Islam?
- Muhammad’s argument for the Quran is that an angel brought him the revelations that would later become the book. However, this claim is btfo’d by St Paul 500 years before Muhammad’s birth.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. - Galatians 1:8
Christianity or Buddhism?
- Buddhism generally views Christianity through the lens of skillful means (
upaya), often interpreting Jesus as a high-level Bodhisattva or an enlightened teacher rather than a divine savior.
Meaning, they want spiritual ascension and they focus on inner prayer, meditation, reflection, just like Christians. However, they deny an ultimate Creator as a source of everything. What’s wrong with that? Well, this is what they say about the Universe (AI) summary:
The Universe is viewed as a cyclical, beginningless, and endless phenomenon, operating through, and shaped by, interdependence and karma rather than a creator god. It includes diverse realms—from hellish to heavenly—inhabited by beings reborn based on their actions, with the ultimate goal being enlightenment to transcend this cycle (samsara).
So they want to transform spiritually through meditation and good deeds and improve their relationship with an immortal, ever present Universe. Basically, very close to Christian ethics and lifestyle, but without directly stating there is a deity, even if they see the Universe as kind of a deity.
So they want to be Christian but atheist at the same time. However, as the Transcendental argument for God posits, enlightenment, ethics, ascension and knowledge are ultimately impossible without a higher being.
Christianity or New Age / Satanism / Paganism / Occultism ?
- The people that adhere to the latter are mostly spiritually awake, but rebellious folk that want to lead a spiritual life, but they view the Church as either controlling, fraudmaxxed, or boring.
I believe it is inherently hypocritical of them to reject the former worldview for the latter because :
- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require a ‘suspension of disbelief’ and the willingness to trust information that seems illogical at first.
- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require the practitioner to plead for help from a higher being, offering something in return.
In Christianity, God is loving and only requires our time and desire to be better. Make no mistake however, there are other spirits out there and while they are a lot less powerful, they are far more malevolent. Most mythological gods and spirits are never shown as loving men and usually require a lot more (blood, semen, or some other kind of action). Ultimately, this will damage you in ways that are impossible to predict because the beings you are in contact with simply do not have your best interest at heart.
View attachment 4695076
Debunks to some common arguments against Christianity:
- ‘Dnr’ - you read it all, faggot. You read it all.
- ‘Christianity was a slave religion to cope with oppresion’ - as per Nietzsche and @alurmo
Jesus addresses this Himself. In Jewish prophecies, the Messiah was misinterpreted to be a political figure that liberates the Jews from Rome. However, Jesus specifies that He is not interested in politics.
Referring to a coin that bore Ceasar’s image, Jesus says
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"
(Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)
In another quote, He says:
"My kingdom is not of this world"
(John 18:36)
Jesus was always adamant that Christianity is strictly spiritual. If he had been encouraging people to rebel, the Romans would have been after Him. However, they are actually against executing him. The Roman Prefect of Judea, Pilate Pontus is ready to release Jesus. The only reason He is executed is because of the Jews’ insistence (shocking) to murder Him.
- ‘Christianity is pacifist and weak’
This often refers to the ‘Turn the other cheek’ quote, which is often misinterpreted. Yes, while we are ordered to forgive and not to seek revenge, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself.
Some Bible verses for you:
“They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down”
(Psalm 118:11)
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
(John 2:13-2:16)
- Christianity was changed/corrupted at some point:
Think about it pal. Christians endured:
Torture
Slavery
Execution on sight if they refused to honour Roman gods
Execution on sight if they refused to honour Allah.
Execution on sight if they refused to even say that the Christian God wasn’t legitimate.
Have you ever been tortured? Imagine yourself being tied up while a schizo is slicing strips of skin off your torso or burning you with a hot iron and demanding that you say you God isn’t real. I know for a fact all of us in are gonna be turning atheist real quick.
Why the FUCK would hundreds of thousands endure torture and a horrible death when they an offered an out by just saying ‘nah jk’. And don’t say they did it because they were afraid of going to Hell. St Peter, a leading apostle and the first bishop of Rome, denied God THREE times under fear of death. He was forgiven.
So you don’t automatically go to Hell if you deny God. The reason these people endured is because they knew there was something out there. Something real.
View attachment 4695296
St Michael mogging Lucifer. Brutally over for Satancels
Thank you for reading. AI was used for some summaries.
Tagging Christiancels. Tell me if I missed something:
@NatureEnjoyer_ @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Jesus is King Amen. @Jesus_ist_König
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A muslim talking about proofJfl who again? Prove Paul saw Jesus jfl he didn’t even talk to Jesus
The Quran was written by well known companion of the prophet
You don’t even know who’s Paul specifically who was his parents? Any historical proof?
Paul’s parents don’t matter, what a retarded argument JFL. They were upper class jew romans is what we know.
Any proof that muhammad saw an angel and not a demon? You don’t know anything about mohammed either except that he wandered around in the desert and then came back claiming an angel taught him a new religion. You kidding me with this shit?
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Yes I can talk about proof jfl at this idiotic peon, my book is preserved in its own language ur book is in different language, same thing can be said with any Christian prophet like Daniel, prove itA muslim talking about proof
Paul’s parents don’t matter, what a retarded argument JFL. They were upper class jew romans is what we know.
Any proof that muhammad saw an angel and not a demon? You don’t know anything about mohammed either except that he wandered around in the desert and then came back claiming an angel taught him a new religion. You kidding me with this shit?
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Jfl that your argument is muh language.Yes I can talk about proof jfl at this idiotic peon, my book is preserved in its own language ur book is in different language, same thing can be said with any Christian prophet like Daniel, prove it
Your book literally says that muhammad had an epiphany like Paul. You don’t need proof of that?
The quran also has a nigga jumping over the moon on a donkey and talks about mohammed spending nights in the dessert ‘riding djinn’, whatever that means
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Jfl at u nigga ur bible also says Joshua stopped the sun and the moon
U don’t even have a argument
What’s Paul and the “authors” full name? Wallahi u can’t tell it cuz they are UNKNOWN niggas
My Quran was written by (not really written it was revealed then written from companions)
زيد بن ثابت ( ع )
ابن الضحاك بن زيد بن لوذان بن عمرو بن عبد عوف بن غنم بن مالك بن النجار بن ثعلبة .
That’s his full name, zayd bin thabit, we also know how old was he when he died when he was born and everything
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Nobody cares if you know his full name nigga. The reason is it’s a newly invented text from the 7th century. Of course something much older like the Old and New Testament has less clear author lineage.Jfl at u nigga ur bible also says Joshua stopped the sun and the moon
U don’t even have a argument
What’s Paul and the “authors” full name? Wallahi u can’t tell it cuz they are UNKNOWN niggas
My Quran was written by (not really written it was revealed then written from companions)
زيد بن ثابت ( ع )
ابن الضحاك بن زيد بن لوذان بن عمرو بن عبد عوف بن غنم بن مالك بن النجار بن ثعلبة .
That’s his full name, zayd bin thabit, we also know how old was he when he died when he was born and everything
Your argument is literally saying that Scientology is legit too since we know they author’s full name and parents.
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How can I be sure who wrote the bible? We don’t even know who wrote it that means authorship uncertainty, I can’t even know who wrote it even saw Jesus or is he making lies, is there an eyewitness during the writing of the bible and someone confessing that Paul told them he saw Jesus and who wrote it is Paul himself
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Moses wrote the first 5 books. The Gospels were written by 4 of Jesus’ apostles, so direct eyewitnesses. Letters was written by Paul. There’s more than one author. Who witnessed mohammad talking the the djinn in the cave? Also nobody. Come on buddy. Apply your same energy to islam
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You can’t apply it simply cuz, he was known to be the truthful not lying once for 40 years straight, suddenly he would lie about a big thing right? Not to mention they already said we will give you money and power to leave this dawah and he said noJfl at u nigga ur bible also says Joshua stopped the sun and the moon
U don’t even have a argument
What’s Paul and the “authors” full name? Wallahi u can’t tell it cuz they are UNKNOWN niggas
My Quran was written by (not really written it was revealed then written from companions)
زيد بن ثابت ( ع )
ابن الضحاك بن زيد بن لوذان بن عمرو بن عبد عوف بن غنم بن مالك بن النجار بن ثعلبة .
That’s his full name, zayd bin thabit, we also know how old was he when he died when he was born and everything
About Paul I’m saying prove Paul wrote it, not a single eyewitness of it
I’m saying the bible now itself I don’t care about who wrote the Torah the BIBLE NOW, The main AUTHORS, who are they? What’s they’re name and what’s the people thoughts about them, thankfully my prophet was never criticized from his people in terms of honesty and kindness
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Stick to the troll gimmick ya hobboThis is a short thread for dnrcels on why I think Christianity is a coherent and logical belief system.
The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.
Religion is subjective and dependent on your inner life but as objective proof I give you Immanuel Kant’s Transcendental Argument for God (summarised by AI for attentioncels)
1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:
- Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
- The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".
2. The Critical Turn: God as a "Postulate"
In his later, more famous work (Critique of Pure Reason), Kant famously rejected all traditional "proofs" for God, including his own earlier argument. He shifted from trying to know God through theory to assuming God through ethics:
3. Summary of Kant’s Transcendental Logic
- The Moral Gap: Kant argued that humans have a "categorical imperative" (a moral duty) to pursue the Summum Bonum—the "Highest Good," where virtue is perfectly rewarded with happiness.
- Ought Implies Can: If we ought to achieve this highest good, it must be possible to achieve it.
- God as the Enabler: Since we cannot harmonize virtue and happiness on our own (bad things happen to good people), we must postulate a moral, all-powerful God who can ensure this harmony in the afterlife.
For Kant, God is a transcendental ideal—a "regulative principle" that our minds use to make sense of morality and the unity of the world, even if we can't observe Him directly. He famously said, "I had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith," meaning reason shows us the need for God, even if it cannot provide a proof of Him.
Ding ding, faggots. Time for Sunday School.
Now that we have that, we have to think: why Christianity? I’m going to put aside the religions that nobody takes seriously and the more minor religions and focus on the big players.
Christianity or Islam?
- Muhammad’s argument for the Quran is that an angel brought him the revelations that would later become the book. However, this claim is btfo’d by St Paul 500 years before Muhammad’s birth.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. - Galatians 1:8
Christianity or Buddhism?
- Buddhism generally views Christianity through the lens of skillful means (
upaya), often interpreting Jesus as a high-level Bodhisattva or an enlightened teacher rather than a divine savior.
Meaning, they want spiritual ascension and they focus on inner prayer, meditation, reflection, just like Christians. However, they deny an ultimate Creator as a source of everything. What’s wrong with that? Well, this is what they say about the Universe (AI) summary:
The Universe is viewed as a cyclical, beginningless, and endless phenomenon, operating through, and shaped by, interdependence and karma rather than a creator god. It includes diverse realms—from hellish to heavenly—inhabited by beings reborn based on their actions, with the ultimate goal being enlightenment to transcend this cycle (samsara).
So they want to transform spiritually through meditation and good deeds and improve their relationship with an immortal, ever present Universe. Basically, very close to Christian ethics and lifestyle, but without directly stating there is a deity, even if they see the Universe as kind of a deity.
So they want to be Christian but atheist at the same time. However, as the Transcendental argument for God posits, enlightenment, ethics, ascension and knowledge are ultimately impossible without a higher being.
Christianity or New Age / Satanism / Paganism / Occultism ?
- The people that adhere to the latter are mostly spiritually awake, but rebellious folk that want to lead a spiritual life, but they view the Church as either controlling, fraudmaxxed, or boring.
I believe it is inherently hypocritical of them to reject the former worldview for the latter because :
- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require a ‘suspension of disbelief’ and the willingness to trust information that seems illogical at first.
- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require the practitioner to plead for help from a higher being, offering something in return.
In Christianity, God is loving and only requires our time and desire to be better. Make no mistake however, there are other spirits out there and while they are a lot less powerful, they are far more malevolent. Most mythological gods and spirits are never shown as loving men and usually require a lot more (blood, semen, or some other kind of action). Ultimately, this will damage you in ways that are impossible to predict because the beings you are in contact with simply do not have your best interest at heart.
View attachment 4695076
Debunks to some common arguments against Christianity:
- ‘Dnr’ - you read it all, faggot. You read it all.
- ‘Christianity was a slave religion to cope with oppresion’ - as per Nietzsche and @alurmo
Jesus addresses this Himself. In Jewish prophecies, the Messiah was misinterpreted to be a political figure that liberates the Jews from Rome. However, Jesus specifies that He is not interested in politics.
Referring to a coin that bore Ceasar’s image, Jesus says
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"
(Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)
In another quote, He says:
"My kingdom is not of this world"
(John 18:36)
Jesus was always adamant that Christianity is strictly spiritual. If he had been encouraging people to rebel, the Romans would have been after Him. However, they are actually against executing him. The Roman Prefect of Judea, Pilate Pontus is ready to release Jesus. The only reason He is executed is because of the Jews’ insistence (shocking) to murder Him.
- ‘Christianity is pacifist and weak’
This often refers to the ‘Turn the other cheek’ quote, which is often misinterpreted. Yes, while we are ordered to forgive and not to seek revenge, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself.
Some Bible verses for you:
“They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down”
(Psalm 118:11)
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
(John 2:13-2:16)
- Christianity was changed/corrupted at some point:
Think about it pal. Christians endured:
Torture
Slavery
Execution on sight if they refused to honour Roman gods
Execution on sight if they refused to honour Allah.
Execution on sight if they refused to even say that the Christian God wasn’t legitimate.
Have you ever been tortured? Imagine yourself being tied up while a schizo is slicing strips of skin off your torso or burning you with a hot iron and demanding that you say you God isn’t real. I know for a fact all of us in are gonna be turning atheist real quick.
Why the FUCK would hundreds of thousands endure torture and a horrible death when they an offered an out by just saying ‘nah jk’. And don’t say they did it because they were afraid of going to Hell. St Peter, a leading apostle and the first bishop of Rome, denied God THREE times under fear of death. He was forgiven.
So you don’t automatically go to Hell if you deny God. The reason these people endured is because they knew there was something out there. Something real.
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And paul was an upper class Roman that left everything and became persecuted. So it was legit. Why would he give up wealth?
Just because you think he didn’t lie isn’t proof JFL. So you also have no eyewitnesses. Paul also didn’t lie about anything.
Wtf are you talking about? The Bible wasn’t written now. It’s more than one author. The canon of which books are legitimate is decided by the Catholic/Orthodox Church
Don’t make me go there bro, i’m trying to be nice
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You're wasting time on this cagefuel brah
Just tell him 1+1+1=3 and move on
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I didn’t say Paul is lying I’m saying prove HE wrote it nigga, your saying Paul this Paul that while you don’t even know if he wrote it or not, not even a single proof of someone seeing Paul write it .
Can you show me where did I say the keyword “now”
Your own church is a fucking chaotic organization
where everyone make there own rules
Council of Nicaea came and changed the whole fucking ideology of Christianity, suddenly from son of god to god js cuz few niggas after Jesus by more than a 300 years said so
Yes bro Mohammed was violent cuz he took the trading car right ?? Or cuz he started wars right? Or he married Aisha right?
Overused jfl
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“I’m saying the bible now itself I don’t care about who wrote the Torah the BIBLE NOW”Can you show me where did I say the keyword “now”
Nicea didn’t change anything, they just cleared up misconceptions JFL.
- violent caravan banditYes bro Mohammed was violent cuz he took the trading car right ?? Or cuz he started wars right? Or he married Aisha right?
Overused jfl
- pedophile
- encouraged killing non believers
- encouraged breaking peace treaties with jews (inb4 the jews broke it first - I don’t care. Shows that he encouraged lying)
- encouraged lying to kaffirs to convert them while secretly hating them
So this person was flawless and kind?
Most intelligent muslim
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I was referring to the faggots who say “Muh if God was real I would be Chad” this is not a serious argument against theism
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oh okay. I was like I never said anything about personal experience
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Mirin high iq bumpThis is a short thread for dnrcels on why I think Christianity is a coherent and logical belief system.
The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.
Religion is subjective and dependent on your inner life but as objective proof I give you Immanuel Kant’s Transcendental Argument for God (summarised by AI for attentioncels)
1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:
- Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
- The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".
2. The Critical Turn: God as a "Postulate"
In his later, more famous work (Critique of Pure Reason), Kant famously rejected all traditional "proofs" for God, including his own earlier argument. He shifted from trying to know God through theory to assuming God through ethics:
3. Summary of Kant’s Transcendental Logic
- The Moral Gap: Kant argued that humans have a "categorical imperative" (a moral duty) to pursue the Summum Bonum—the "Highest Good," where virtue is perfectly rewarded with happiness.
- Ought Implies Can: If we ought to achieve this highest good, it must be possible to achieve it.
- God as the Enabler: Since we cannot harmonize virtue and happiness on our own (bad things happen to good people), we must postulate a moral, all-powerful God who can ensure this harmony in the afterlife.
For Kant, God is a transcendental ideal—a "regulative principle" that our minds use to make sense of morality and the unity of the world, even if we can't observe Him directly. He famously said, "I had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith," meaning reason shows us the need for God, even if it cannot provide a proof of Him.
Ding ding, faggots. Time for Sunday School.
Now that we have that, we have to think: why Christianity? I’m going to put aside the religions that nobody takes seriously and the more minor religions and focus on the big players.
Christianity or Islam?
- Muhammad’s argument for the Quran is that an angel brought him the revelations that would later become the book. However, this claim is btfo’d by St Paul 500 years before Muhammad’s birth.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. - Galatians 1:8
Christianity or Buddhism?
- Buddhism generally views Christianity through the lens of skillful means (
upaya), often interpreting Jesus as a high-level Bodhisattva or an enlightened teacher rather than a divine savior.
Meaning, they want spiritual ascension and they focus on inner prayer, meditation, reflection, just like Christians. However, they deny an ultimate Creator as a source of everything. What’s wrong with that? Well, this is what they say about the Universe (AI) summary:
The Universe is viewed as a cyclical, beginningless, and endless phenomenon, operating through, and shaped by, interdependence and karma rather than a creator god. It includes diverse realms—from hellish to heavenly—inhabited by beings reborn based on their actions, with the ultimate goal being enlightenment to transcend this cycle (samsara).
So they want to transform spiritually through meditation and good deeds and improve their relationship with an immortal, ever present Universe. Basically, very close to Christian ethics and lifestyle, but without directly stating there is a deity, even if they see the Universe as kind of a deity.
So they want to be Christian but atheist at the same time. However, as the Transcendental argument for God posits, enlightenment, ethics, ascension and knowledge are ultimately impossible without a higher being.
Christianity or New Age / Satanism / Paganism / Occultism ?
- The people that adhere to the latter are mostly spiritually awake, but rebellious folk that want to lead a spiritual life, but they view the Church as either controlling, fraudmaxxed, or boring.
I believe it is inherently hypocritical of them to reject the former worldview for the latter because :
- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require a ‘suspension of disbelief’ and the willingness to trust information that seems illogical at first.
- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require the practitioner to plead for help from a higher being, offering something in return.
In Christianity, God is loving and only requires our time and desire to be better. Make no mistake however, there are other spirits out there and while they are a lot less powerful, they are far more malevolent. Most mythological gods and spirits are never shown as loving men and usually require a lot more (blood, semen, or some other kind of action). Ultimately, this will damage you in ways that are impossible to predict because the beings you are in contact with simply do not have your best interest at heart.
View attachment 4695076
Debunks to some common arguments against Christianity:
- ‘Dnr’ - you read it all, faggot. You read it all.
- ‘Christianity was a slave religion to cope with oppresion’ - as per Nietzsche and @alurmo
Jesus addresses this Himself. In Jewish prophecies, the Messiah was misinterpreted to be a political figure that liberates the Jews from Rome. However, Jesus specifies that He is not interested in politics.
Referring to a coin that bore Ceasar’s image, Jesus says
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"
(Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)
In another quote, He says:
"My kingdom is not of this world"
(John 18:36)
Jesus was always adamant that Christianity is strictly spiritual. If he had been encouraging people to rebel, the Romans would have been after Him. However, they are actually against executing him. The Roman Prefect of Judea, Pilate Pontus is ready to release Jesus. The only reason He is executed is because of the Jews’ insistence (shocking) to murder Him.
- ‘Christianity is pacifist and weak’
This often refers to the ‘Turn the other cheek’ quote, which is often misinterpreted. Yes, while we are ordered to forgive and not to seek revenge, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself.
Some Bible verses for you:
“They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down”
(Psalm 118:11)
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
(John 2:13-2:16)
- Christianity was changed/corrupted at some point:
Think about it pal. Christians endured:
Torture
Slavery
Execution on sight if they refused to honour Roman gods
Execution on sight if they refused to honour Allah.
Execution on sight if they refused to even say that the Christian God wasn’t legitimate.
Have you ever been tortured? Imagine yourself being tied up while a schizo is slicing strips of skin off your torso or burning you with a hot iron and demanding that you say you God isn’t real. I know for a fact all of us in are gonna be turning atheist real quick.
Why the FUCK would hundreds of thousands endure torture and a horrible death when they an offered an out by just saying ‘nah jk’. And don’t say they did it because they were afraid of going to Hell. St Peter, a leading apostle and the first bishop of Rome, denied God THREE times under fear of death. He was forgiven.
So you don’t automatically go to Hell if you deny God. The reason these people endured is because they knew there was something out there. Something real.
View attachment 4695296
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Thank you for reading. AI was used for some summaries.
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DNR NIGGA but I agreeThis is a short thread for dnrcels on why I think Christianity is a coherent and logical belief system.
The first step is to determine whether the atheist or the theist world view is correct.
Religion is subjective and dependent on your inner life but as objective proof I give you Immanuel Kant’s Transcendental Argument for God (summarised by AI for attentioncels)
1. The Pre-Critical Argument (The "Early" TAG)
In his early work, The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God (1763), Kant formulated a version of TAG that is closer to modern apologetics:
- Possibility requires Actuality: He argued that for anything to be "possible" (even as a thought), there must be some existing reality that grounds that possibility.
- The Necessary Being: If nothing existed, nothing would be possible. Since things arepossible, an absolutely necessary being (God) must exist as the "ground of all real possibility".
2. The Critical Turn: God as a "Postulate"
In his later, more famous work (Critique of Pure Reason), Kant famously rejected all traditional "proofs" for God, including his own earlier argument. He shifted from trying to know God through theory to assuming God through ethics:
3. Summary of Kant’s Transcendental Logic
- The Moral Gap: Kant argued that humans have a "categorical imperative" (a moral duty) to pursue the Summum Bonum—the "Highest Good," where virtue is perfectly rewarded with happiness.
- Ought Implies Can: If we ought to achieve this highest good, it must be possible to achieve it.
- God as the Enabler: Since we cannot harmonize virtue and happiness on our own (bad things happen to good people), we must postulate a moral, all-powerful God who can ensure this harmony in the afterlife.
For Kant, God is a transcendental ideal—a "regulative principle" that our minds use to make sense of morality and the unity of the world, even if we can't observe Him directly. He famously said, "I had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith," meaning reason shows us the need for God, even if it cannot provide a proof of Him.
Ding ding, faggots. Time for Sunday School.
Now that we have that, we have to think: why Christianity? I’m going to put aside the religions that nobody takes seriously and the more minor religions and focus on the big players.
Christianity or Islam?
- Muhammad’s argument for the Quran is that an angel brought him the revelations that would later become the book. However, this claim is btfo’d by St Paul 500 years before Muhammad’s birth.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. - Galatians 1:8
Christianity or Buddhism?
- Buddhism generally views Christianity through the lens of skillful means (
upaya), often interpreting Jesus as a high-level Bodhisattva or an enlightened teacher rather than a divine savior.
Meaning, they want spiritual ascension and they focus on inner prayer, meditation, reflection, just like Christians. However, they deny an ultimate Creator as a source of everything. What’s wrong with that? Well, this is what they say about the Universe (AI) summary:
The Universe is viewed as a cyclical, beginningless, and endless phenomenon, operating through, and shaped by, interdependence and karma rather than a creator god. It includes diverse realms—from hellish to heavenly—inhabited by beings reborn based on their actions, with the ultimate goal being enlightenment to transcend this cycle (samsara).
So they want to transform spiritually through meditation and good deeds and improve their relationship with an immortal, ever present Universe. Basically, very close to Christian ethics and lifestyle, but without directly stating there is a deity, even if they see the Universe as kind of a deity.
So they want to be Christian but atheist at the same time. However, as the Transcendental argument for God posits, enlightenment, ethics, ascension and knowledge are ultimately impossible without a higher being.
Christianity or New Age / Satanism / Paganism / Occultism ?
- The people that adhere to the latter are mostly spiritually awake, but rebellious folk that want to lead a spiritual life, but they view the Church as either controlling, fraudmaxxed, or boring.
I believe it is inherently hypocritical of them to reject the former worldview for the latter because :
- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require a ‘suspension of disbelief’ and the willingness to trust information that seems illogical at first.
- Both Christianity and Fringe Occultism require the practitioner to plead for help from a higher being, offering something in return.
In Christianity, God is loving and only requires our time and desire to be better. Make no mistake however, there are other spirits out there and while they are a lot less powerful, they are far more malevolent. Most mythological gods and spirits are never shown as loving men and usually require a lot more (blood, semen, or some other kind of action). Ultimately, this will damage you in ways that are impossible to predict because the beings you are in contact with simply do not have your best interest at heart.
View attachment 4695076
Debunks to some common arguments against Christianity:
- ‘Dnr’ - you read it all, faggot. You read it all.
- ‘Christianity was a slave religion to cope with oppresion’ - as per Nietzsche and @alurmo
Jesus addresses this Himself. In Jewish prophecies, the Messiah was misinterpreted to be a political figure that liberates the Jews from Rome. However, Jesus specifies that He is not interested in politics.
Referring to a coin that bore Ceasar’s image, Jesus says
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"
(Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25)
In another quote, He says:
"My kingdom is not of this world"
(John 18:36)
Jesus was always adamant that Christianity is strictly spiritual. If he had been encouraging people to rebel, the Romans would have been after Him. However, they are actually against executing him. The Roman Prefect of Judea, Pilate Pontus is ready to release Jesus. The only reason He is executed is because of the Jews’ insistence (shocking) to murder Him.
- ‘Christianity is pacifist and weak’
This often refers to the ‘Turn the other cheek’ quote, which is often misinterpreted. Yes, while we are ordered to forgive and not to seek revenge, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself.
Some Bible verses for you:
“They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down”
(Psalm 118:11)
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
(John 2:13-2:16)
- Christianity was changed/corrupted at some point:
Think about it pal. Christians endured:
Torture
Slavery
Execution on sight if they refused to honour Roman gods
Execution on sight if they refused to honour Allah.
Execution on sight if they refused to even say that the Christian God wasn’t legitimate.
Have you ever been tortured? Imagine yourself being tied up while a schizo is slicing strips of skin off your torso or burning you with a hot iron and demanding that you say you God isn’t real. I know for a fact all of us in are gonna be turning atheist real quick.
Why the FUCK would hundreds of thousands endure torture and a horrible death when they an offered an out by just saying ‘nah jk’. And don’t say they did it because they were afraid of going to Hell. St Peter, a leading apostle and the first bishop of Rome, denied God THREE times under fear of death. He was forgiven.
So you don’t automatically go to Hell if you deny God. The reason these people endured is because they knew there was something out there. Something real.
View attachment 4695296
St Michael mogging Lucifer. Brutally over for Satancels
Thank you for reading. AI was used for some summaries.
Tagging Christiancels. Tell me if I missed something:
@NatureEnjoyer_ @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Jesus is King Amen. @Jesus_ist_König
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this doesn't prove gods existence i'm only replying to this part because if this part isn't a good source then everything else you said in the threat doesn't even matter
immanuel kant didn't prove God at all the fact that he just denied and realized that we cannot prove God's existence with logic or any metaphysics
his early argument just isn't a proof for God
but later he did tell us you cannot even prove God exists at all that's what i talked about in my earlier thread we are so unsure about God and his existence we can't even proof it and kant just admitted to that
that's what makes faith very hard when i was talking about envying you guys for following it blindly i wasn't being sarcastic i was very serious i would love the ability to have faith and to pray to a higher being but every good thing that happens to you because of praying is just a coincidence that you're tying to that prayer you don't tie any bad stuff happening to you to your prayer it's just a cherrypick
christians endured a lot but my point still stands that the world is divided between people with faith and people who cannot get that faith
a lot of you christians like to hate on atheists and agnostics but you don't understand i physically cannot believe in God's existence it feels like a joke to me and i don't mean any harm towards that and you mentioned the whole believing in the big bang coming from nothing that's you oversimplifying the big bang i'm not oversimplifying god i'm calling him the most complex thing to understand
and the big bang theory doesn't even tell us enough literally any non-believing person can agree that the big bang isn't enough anyways we need to know what was before the big bang now
low effort cause i'm really tired but summed up we can't understand God at all and that is what pushes me away from believing in him, kants arguments don't prove God it just proves that God is impossible to understand which raises doubt, but if every religious person stopped believing in God, God as if nietzsche would say would genuinely be dead i hope you understood his quote
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Maybe not prove in the way you want, with a picture of a woke jew scientist telling you that it’s real.
You don’t know what happened but it’s not scientific of you at all to explain it away as a coincidence without knowing the details. It isn’t something that happens by chance.
I don’t need to make you a Christian. You can be what you want. I’ve seen a lot more atheists raging at Christians than the other way round, like the thread you made. Which of course I’m gonna defend my religion jfl.
You can believe in the Big Bang. Fine by me. But you believe in the world appearing out of thin air and you read it in a book. You don’t have any proof either. Not that much different than someone religious.
You say you don’t know and yet you’re lecturing others on how it was? Do you see the double standard tho?
Nobody can
Nietzche himself backtracked on his edgelord atheist takes later on in his life. He was also criticising the passive woke Christianity, which I also agree with him is lame. God will be fine whether you believe in Him or not, don’t worry. It’s us that are cooked if He stops believing in us.
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so he's trying to switch sides
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Switch sides? I still don’t like you, nigger
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wait till realizes god had the skin of your enemiesSwitch sides? I still don’t like you, nigger
ROFL rot in hell
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He was a middle eastern Jew yeah. Jfl at this 90 IQ nigger thinking I don’t knowwait till realizes god had the skin of your enemies
ROFL rot in hell
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Jfl i mog you here again nigger. I was on the old psl forums while you were still asking where your daddy went
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WS are cringe and you have to remember the “Jesus” they worship isn’t the Jesus of the Bible the same way the Muslims have a false Jesus also
These people have characiture false Jesus’s and pray to their fake white supremacist God meanwhile the real Jesus is disgusted by their display
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You do realise he’s literally North African right…. Meaning he’s unironically the same race as Jesus as in MENA race and he’s yellow skinned
Did you think he was black or something ? @sick kunt31 isnt black so yes you hate Jesus but we already know this. You white suprematists have your fake European blue eyed Jesus which is as fictional as spider man
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you mean einstein?
i don’t hate you guys i just question you guys i appreciate people like you who can actually give an answer you don’t need to make me a christian but giving me a valid logical explanation on why you’re christian would be enough for me
the big bang isn’t even enough to disprove christianity i never understood how it disproved anything you can just say God caused the big bang i think the better theory that could disprove christianity is evolution you guys believe in Adam and Eve but that goes completely against evolution cause they weren’t apes or anything
where did nietzsche criticize this? later in his life didn’t he get sick i wouldn’t really listen to mentally ill nietzsche if you can give a good quote or a book or whatever you have where nietzsche backtracked on his atheist takes send it
you misunderstood i don’t know what caused the big bang and that can be the christian God or something else but i would believe its some kind of God just not an abrahamic one we don’t know God at all it would make much more sense to be an agnostic, we can have the knowledge that he exists but we don’t know who he actually is and i can’t see that God out there giving humans tests and making them suffer as apart of that test
it’s also just unfair how everything is you seem to criticize jews a lot and i agree why can those mfs just be the most successful people out there when they’re horrible? are they just smarter than us or are they Gods favorite people
don’t mistake any of my replies to other people as a direct attack to you anything i say about a religion is because i used to be forced to be a muslim by my parents and it sucked call me an upset little teenage boy idc but islam basically copied christianity the religion both feels like the same which makes me hold a small grudge against it im trying my best to be as respectful as possible anything you see in my post that offends you has a reason behind it
also what religion were your parents?
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He seems to have been legit but look at the slew of woke scientists these days. The same establishment that published Newton’s laws of gravity is now pushing trannie propaganda. Compromised?
I’ll try my best to explain but ngl if you are closed off to immaterial things or choose not to be open minded, you probably won’t have proof. It isn’t something you can take a picture of.
Yeah, I do believe in Adam and Eve. There is nothing that says evolution is or isn’t true. I don’t know if it’s true or not. It could be. I do know the Bible mentions Neanderthals and dinosaurs so I think you’re speaking out of bias there without doing due research.
I checked, apparently he didn’t backtrack, my mistake. I think nietzsche was against the ‘slave morality’ as he called it of Christianity, even though he was wrong. He also thought islam was a better alternative. So according to him marrying 9 year olds and killing nonbelievers makes more sense. I just don’t trust nietzsche after reading that.
Why not? There is only one abrahamic God btw
Once again, assuming. God doesn’t want you to suffer but He also won’t personally come down to prove Himself to you just because you’re atheist.
We believe that Jews used to be God’s people, but not anymore after they rejected Jesus. The new, true Israel is the Church. Israel means ‘wrestled with God’, we’re not literal jews, if that makes sense. When I saw Jew, I mean the anti-white, anti-european, pro-woke new world order Klaus Schwab globalist. Why are they so successful? I don’t know, but they will lose in the end.
I respect your opinion and I don’t need to make you Christian. I think you haven’t researched it with an open mind. Respectfully, I’ve read a lot about islam and that religion doesn’t make sense at all. But I believe mine does make a lot more sense.
They were the typical for America megachurch lib Christians. I’m Orthodox, which may sound similar, but is a lot more ancient and reasonable.
Tbh if you don’t believe in anything immaterial, I can’t convince you. Maybe you see that as absence of proof, but it’s not easy to prove metaphysics if you haven’t tried to ‘immerse’ yourself in that world. Anyway, you seem like someone capable of thinking independently, respect for which. I can only imagine the pressure you would have had upon leaving islam
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then i’ll start researching orthodoxy christianity you convinced me to do that
