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For a long time I've had trouble coming to terms with why the things I perceive don't translate to my expected outcomes in the real world
As a teenager I instinctively knew there was something abnormal about my face due to an underbite.
I always looked a couple of years younger than my age and had small facial features, I considered my face to have harmony before being aware of the term but there was a certain kind of pheno that had the young-ish / prettyboy / averaged ratios look which I saw as the ideal because I thought I could aspire to fulfill that archetype
I was aware I was simply normal looking and had the hopes of ascending when I developed an adult face assuming I was a late bloomer but when I would look at team photos I was in, I noticed how so many lads on the team had failos like big noses or an ugly inbred look with low facial averageness but did it matter in terms of getting girls? absolutely not
This was before the generation of zoomer clones kicked in where every teenager got the same haircut and somehow started to develop the same youthmaxxed prettyboy pheno, I have no idea how this happened in the space of 5 years.
During my school years I kissed on average one girl per night at teenage discos, from what I remember most of them approached me asking me to kiss their friend, this showed at least I had appeal based solely on appearance to foids my age while I was invisible to foids due to behaviour failo.
When I started going clubbing at 18 it was off the back of a massive growth spurt in height and having my underbite masked with compensation orthodontics
I thrived in terms of getting makeouts before I had my mind set on ascending with gymcelling so this was effectively my pre looksmaxxing state
I got a few slays but my biggest increase in slaying volume came after I was done with bulking and reached my peak size on roids and my face masculinized after roid use and I gained a tan also.
My pre looksmaxxing slaying sample size wasn't huge so it's hard to conclude it the average quality of the foid I slayed increased that much but I was simply able to slay foids alot more often and got about 60% of my lifetime slays in 18 months after uni.
There were some strong MTBs thrown in there but I honestly don't think ever slayed my looksmatch in terms of rarity compared to respective gender, especially not if height is factored into the male looks hierarchy rankings.
I was a big time dumpster diver during my slaying peak since my only avenues for slaying were dating apps and nightclubs and I always could resort to the thought that it was my underbite / recessed maxilla holding me back from getting better results.
Then I started working as a bouncer and I had interactions with HTB/SL co workers and for the first time HTB+ were actually going out of their way to be nice to me and interact with me which has ever happened in a uni or club context.
I was in the most low effort slaying period of my life getting slays as a bouncer but it was ended due to the lockdowns and I basically entered multiple year inceldom while I removed myself from society to get orthodontics in preperation for surgery.
I got jaw surgery to fix my biggest facial failos, I clearly ascended so I began going clubbing again on trips abroad but my results were dogshit
I concluded that the world had just changed too much in the years I was away and that the club slaying era was over, although in hindsight my frame looked shit because I was 80kg but it didn't feel like a failo at the time but it's only after getting back to 90kg+ that I see how important body mass is, especially for me.
I got NT pics for tinder for the first time and thought that my facial ascension + height clearly dispalyed in pics would be enough to get something but all I could manage was one shitty whale slay and one recent chubster slay which was somewhat validating because I found her face appealing.
So from apps since 2020 I had one LTB slay (pre surgery) and a Whale slay + chubster MTB slay (post surgery)
Post surgery I had countless chubsters / mid foids on dating apps ask for my snap then immediately block me after I showed my face
The go to claim here would be that they thought I looked worse in snaps, but I have spoken before about how multiple chubsters kept asking me for additional ways to verify myself because they were claiming I was a catfish / wasn't real.
It was legitimately a case of subpar foids just looking for a reason to end a convo with someone who they know mogs them once they verify the guy is actually real because they don't want to feel like an ugly potato when sending snaps of their own face.
When I got into snap exchanges with decent looking girls, I never had to deal with any of that shit, they clearly thought that I met the looks threshold to interact with but felt no need to instantly block me when I sent my face or claim the catfish bs because they were obviously more secure about their own appearance
While you might think I am being narcy or delusional here, it was actually an interaction I had with a foid in a club that triggered the idea that this was even a possibility
I pulled some foid and things were going well and I got her number then she ran off
I text her the next day asking what happened and she eventually admitted that she didnt know why i approached her because of how much better looking than her she thought I was and she came to the conclusion that I must have just been using her to get to her better looking friends.
This was a penny drop moment for me and I suddenly started looking to this as a reason to explain how my results with MTB chubsters who used to be my bread and butter slays suddenly plummeted after surgery.
This made me go more in depth into the looks (and behaviour) purgatory concept because I was now lacking a distinct facial flaw which seemed to make insecure chubster MTBs responsive to me, but my ascension didn't actually improve my results with better looking girls as I lacked the behaviour or positive life reinforcement required to properly navigate interactions with HTBs+, despite the fact the eye contact I receive from HTB+ foids on the street increased dramatically post surgery.
I stand by my belief that I now had a looks package that actually reduced my appeal to the kind of foids I used to slay who started showing less interest me, but I recall New Poster saying "you have to get off this whole I'm too good looking thing" and I can finally say that allowing this thought to occupy my mind is well and truly behind me which is for the best.
I feel like my era of self glazing on the forum was somewhat warranted given that I needed an outlet to express how I felt about my ascension when it didn't translate to real world outcomes that I expected it would have.
My post surgery result felt ideal but I got humbled on my appearance because a dentist I went to who conned me into a brief round of orthodontics caused my jaw to rotate out of position in just 2 weeks, making it more downward grown looking and reducing the ramus height and looking back at my post surgery pics my ramus height was so ideal. I got nerfed by a conman who managed to steal part of my post surgery result from me
I still believe I look good as it's not a change that anyone except myself could pick up on but it reduced my peak contentment I previously had with my appearance.
My confusion over such poor results from clubbing and online did make me question why my own perception was so out of touch with real life outcomes but once I started working as a bouncer in a club again I got approached and complimented on my appearance regularly by attractive girls and the compliments received were far stronger than pre surgery which finally allowed me to feel like I wasn't going insane and my looks had improved from the surgery instead of the possibility that some failo in motion was created by the surgery which was the best explanation I could come up with.
I used faceIQlabs to calculate my harmony score and when using a post surgery front pic taken by a DSLR the highest score I got was top 0.001% harmony
I then decided to use a pic from when I was 18 and had my pic taken with a DSLR in my first day of my uni course and to my surprise the harmony score I got was top 0.002%
Effectively meaning that my frontal facial ratios have always been void of flaws and while surgery maxxing did add to aesthetic appeal, the actual coding of your face is determined and more or less unchangeable.
While this verified that my face has no notable flaws, (particularly once side profile was fixed with lefort) it doesn't automatically equate to halo points
Yes my instinct about having good facial harmony before I knew of the term harmony was right all along but this doesn't automatically equate to attraction since guys with obscure ratios can look more striking, more angular or have more appeal.
I tested it on some models and they only got like 50th percentile in terms of harmony due to shit like short chin, overly wide and flat mandible, long midface etc but most normies really don't notice things that would be considered ratio flaws if the person looks good overall.
I tested out a few more of my pics and recent DSLR ones regularly got top 0.01% and rarer while my passport photo taken on some random camera by a foid in a pharmacy is actually my best looking pic aesthetically (sometimes you just take a good picture) but this pic got top 10% in terms of harmony
So the range goes from top 10% to top 0.001% based on the camera used.
I think once you go beyond top 1%, in terms of measurable harmony, the difference that it makes in real life is negligable since no one will notice if you have 2 ratios that are 10% outside the ideal range compared to the guy who's in the ideal range for everything.
This is why just sheer attractive matters, and this is harder to quantify than simply ratios
I do think I possess sheer facial attractiveness also, and even if it could be quantified, I don't think it would be any rarer than 99th percentile and for the sake of it I'll say no rarer than 98th percentile to draw a hard line (platinum percentile)
I often notice when I would go into the bathroom on a night out, I would think the other guys there would be fairly decent facially, then I would look in the mirror while washing my hands to see that I mog them (in my personal opinion)
This happens often in nightlife environments where I would see guys who relative to the crowd look fairly good, but then I catch a mirror that shows both of us and see that my eye area looks more compact, cheekbones look better, nose and general ratios are better etc etc.
It's also happened to me a few times where I caught a mirror at a completely weird position that was head level with me and for a split second that I thought was looking at someone else and thought "that's a threatening looking mogger" then realized it was me.
Either there is quite a clear gap between my facial attractiveness and the average young guy in a crowd or else I just have mental programming that causes me to overate myself since my results don't match with my self perception.
I also had a realisation when reflecting back on my school days that people intentionally ignored or downplayed instances where I was measurably the best at something but whenever some popular guy did anything positive everyone would kiss his arse and whenever some sperg who was no threat to the order did anything slightly impressive everyone would hype him.
I get the best results in the class and nobody comes to me for the answers or comments on my results, they just hype up the guy who always shows off having his homework done first.
I outscore everyone in a football match or I beat everyone at a game we try for the first time and everyone ignores it or rage quits the game since their idenitity is based on their place in the hierarchy so if they see someone who doesn't give a fuck about the hierarchy is more competent that them without even trying, it calls into question what actually justifies their current place in the hierarchy
I distinctly remember some "cool kids" mocking me for a girl I kissed at a disco behind my back then 6 months later one of the "cool kids" was dating her and suddenly they were acting like she was Megan Fox Lite
Due to having anything I did intentionally downplayed my entire school life it has really made me question how my perception of reality can be so far detached from the actions of those around me so for my sanity I had to conclude that normies don't accurately process reality they just process whatever is most effective for their ego. You could say there's a massive irony here and that's exactly what I'm doing to protect my ego but I honestly think I am right and it's the normies who are wrong. Mock me for that all you want but who cares I'm just an apsie on a forum
This takes me onto my next point about glazing myself for my sentience levels
When I began making youtube vids where I landed some solid, unique taking points and people were praising them and resonating with them, it made me feel vindicated that I actually was a high level thinker all along.
Regardless of IQ, there is something about how my brain processes the world that leads me to conclusions that other people have not expressed before
How effective this is in the real world? it could barely matter, but it is something that at least feels like it justifies having an ND brain that makes socializing with foids and normies near impossible.
I decided to go on a 15 minute self glaze fest in one of my videos just to get it out of my system as the channel was being brought to a close
I thought I would get more backlash for it and might be considered a bit cringe but I thought for once I will just let my thoughts out there and talk myself up and not care and my audience didn't particularly care either thus minimal backlash
Once I got that out of my system, I really haven't thought about my sentience levels much, I think it might be a case for me where engaging in all out self glaze allows me to get the thoughts out of my head that I can feel but don't translate to real world results, then I can just forget about it rather than constantly questioning why I dont get real world results which leads me to coping with more internal self glaze thoughts
I think I am finally getting to this point in relation to my looks and this thread is going to be the final farewell to self glazing because after this, I aim to not question my looks anymore and just accept that you're not everyone's cup of tea and wherever I land objectively on the looks scale (as much as it can be measured) it barely means anything irl because I can be a 2 to one foid I interact with and an 8 to the next foid I interact with.
I made a dating app account using another PSLers pics to avail of the double date feature
When I matched with foids from his profile who I found attractive, I hit them with a line where I told them I was just visiting the country to see a mate but my mate wants to know if he can get your instagram, so that I could farm followers for my own account
When I would try initiate a convo from my own profile after getting to instagram I got blanked
The PSLer who's pics I was using has a short face and facial angularity while I have a tall face without much angularity
Me and the PSLer have a similar dating app slay count with nearly all of mine coming before 2020 and nearly all of his coming after 2020
He has one same night club slay while I have 50+
This shows just how little objective rating matters since we're around the same level facially because a girl could be keen on him and have 0 interest in me simply because of the TYPE of face they're attracted to NOT the level of rarity
This brings me onto the topic of height and how online completely nerfs height halo
Even with a heightmogger pic showing my 7 inch heightmog over him, did this make any foids switch sides and want to go for the heightmogger friend? No
They matched with the PSLer because of face and a face that wasn't similar type wise was worthless to them
While having outlier height is good for ego maxxing, it really feels like it puts you in a position where you can't win because people will always downplay the impact that your face has on attraction
I would actually like to briefly transfer into a universe where I'm average height to see how much of a difference it makes
When guys talk about how much of a halo height is and how the advantage to being anything past tall HTN is negligable under the assumption that tall HTN is attractive to every girl, when you respond saying you meet those metrics and girls simply don't give a fuck their automatic go to is to downplay your face
When I see another geezer in public of a similar height who has similar proportions (tapered and not a pear shaped fat fuck) it makes me realize just how tall I also look compared to the general population and makes me wonder how I'm not doing BETTER since a guy of my size with a youthmaxxed mascthetic face is giga rare
I think it's understandable that I would have developed a large ego having gone from average height framecel in early to mid teens to 98th percentlile height and gymcelled but it really destroys my perception of reality to see that it means nothing to foids if they feel your presence makes them uncomfortable for a split second due to lack of NT they'll disqualify you and accept a 5'8 MTN who meets her NT threshold
I had more to write and conclude shit but I veered off track so I'll finish it another time
My ability to think has been severely diminished by the 100ml of vodka I consumed while writing
Now I know how normies aka 99% of this userbase think and why they can't string together anything more than 5 words that are an appeal to social engagement, not anything of value
As a teenager I instinctively knew there was something abnormal about my face due to an underbite.
I always looked a couple of years younger than my age and had small facial features, I considered my face to have harmony before being aware of the term but there was a certain kind of pheno that had the young-ish / prettyboy / averaged ratios look which I saw as the ideal because I thought I could aspire to fulfill that archetype
I was aware I was simply normal looking and had the hopes of ascending when I developed an adult face assuming I was a late bloomer but when I would look at team photos I was in, I noticed how so many lads on the team had failos like big noses or an ugly inbred look with low facial averageness but did it matter in terms of getting girls? absolutely not
This was before the generation of zoomer clones kicked in where every teenager got the same haircut and somehow started to develop the same youthmaxxed prettyboy pheno, I have no idea how this happened in the space of 5 years.
During my school years I kissed on average one girl per night at teenage discos, from what I remember most of them approached me asking me to kiss their friend, this showed at least I had appeal based solely on appearance to foids my age while I was invisible to foids due to behaviour failo.
When I started going clubbing at 18 it was off the back of a massive growth spurt in height and having my underbite masked with compensation orthodontics
I thrived in terms of getting makeouts before I had my mind set on ascending with gymcelling so this was effectively my pre looksmaxxing state
I got a few slays but my biggest increase in slaying volume came after I was done with bulking and reached my peak size on roids and my face masculinized after roid use and I gained a tan also.
My pre looksmaxxing slaying sample size wasn't huge so it's hard to conclude it the average quality of the foid I slayed increased that much but I was simply able to slay foids alot more often and got about 60% of my lifetime slays in 18 months after uni.
There were some strong MTBs thrown in there but I honestly don't think ever slayed my looksmatch in terms of rarity compared to respective gender, especially not if height is factored into the male looks hierarchy rankings.
I was a big time dumpster diver during my slaying peak since my only avenues for slaying were dating apps and nightclubs and I always could resort to the thought that it was my underbite / recessed maxilla holding me back from getting better results.
Then I started working as a bouncer and I had interactions with HTB/SL co workers and for the first time HTB+ were actually going out of their way to be nice to me and interact with me which has ever happened in a uni or club context.
I was in the most low effort slaying period of my life getting slays as a bouncer but it was ended due to the lockdowns and I basically entered multiple year inceldom while I removed myself from society to get orthodontics in preperation for surgery.
I got jaw surgery to fix my biggest facial failos, I clearly ascended so I began going clubbing again on trips abroad but my results were dogshit
I concluded that the world had just changed too much in the years I was away and that the club slaying era was over, although in hindsight my frame looked shit because I was 80kg but it didn't feel like a failo at the time but it's only after getting back to 90kg+ that I see how important body mass is, especially for me.
I got NT pics for tinder for the first time and thought that my facial ascension + height clearly dispalyed in pics would be enough to get something but all I could manage was one shitty whale slay and one recent chubster slay which was somewhat validating because I found her face appealing.
So from apps since 2020 I had one LTB slay (pre surgery) and a Whale slay + chubster MTB slay (post surgery)
Post surgery I had countless chubsters / mid foids on dating apps ask for my snap then immediately block me after I showed my face
The go to claim here would be that they thought I looked worse in snaps, but I have spoken before about how multiple chubsters kept asking me for additional ways to verify myself because they were claiming I was a catfish / wasn't real.
It was legitimately a case of subpar foids just looking for a reason to end a convo with someone who they know mogs them once they verify the guy is actually real because they don't want to feel like an ugly potato when sending snaps of their own face.
When I got into snap exchanges with decent looking girls, I never had to deal with any of that shit, they clearly thought that I met the looks threshold to interact with but felt no need to instantly block me when I sent my face or claim the catfish bs because they were obviously more secure about their own appearance
While you might think I am being narcy or delusional here, it was actually an interaction I had with a foid in a club that triggered the idea that this was even a possibility
I pulled some foid and things were going well and I got her number then she ran off
I text her the next day asking what happened and she eventually admitted that she didnt know why i approached her because of how much better looking than her she thought I was and she came to the conclusion that I must have just been using her to get to her better looking friends.
This was a penny drop moment for me and I suddenly started looking to this as a reason to explain how my results with MTB chubsters who used to be my bread and butter slays suddenly plummeted after surgery.
This made me go more in depth into the looks (and behaviour) purgatory concept because I was now lacking a distinct facial flaw which seemed to make insecure chubster MTBs responsive to me, but my ascension didn't actually improve my results with better looking girls as I lacked the behaviour or positive life reinforcement required to properly navigate interactions with HTBs+, despite the fact the eye contact I receive from HTB+ foids on the street increased dramatically post surgery.
I stand by my belief that I now had a looks package that actually reduced my appeal to the kind of foids I used to slay who started showing less interest me, but I recall New Poster saying "you have to get off this whole I'm too good looking thing" and I can finally say that allowing this thought to occupy my mind is well and truly behind me which is for the best.
I feel like my era of self glazing on the forum was somewhat warranted given that I needed an outlet to express how I felt about my ascension when it didn't translate to real world outcomes that I expected it would have.
My post surgery result felt ideal but I got humbled on my appearance because a dentist I went to who conned me into a brief round of orthodontics caused my jaw to rotate out of position in just 2 weeks, making it more downward grown looking and reducing the ramus height and looking back at my post surgery pics my ramus height was so ideal. I got nerfed by a conman who managed to steal part of my post surgery result from me
I still believe I look good as it's not a change that anyone except myself could pick up on but it reduced my peak contentment I previously had with my appearance.
My confusion over such poor results from clubbing and online did make me question why my own perception was so out of touch with real life outcomes but once I started working as a bouncer in a club again I got approached and complimented on my appearance regularly by attractive girls and the compliments received were far stronger than pre surgery which finally allowed me to feel like I wasn't going insane and my looks had improved from the surgery instead of the possibility that some failo in motion was created by the surgery which was the best explanation I could come up with.
I used faceIQlabs to calculate my harmony score and when using a post surgery front pic taken by a DSLR the highest score I got was top 0.001% harmony
I then decided to use a pic from when I was 18 and had my pic taken with a DSLR in my first day of my uni course and to my surprise the harmony score I got was top 0.002%
Effectively meaning that my frontal facial ratios have always been void of flaws and while surgery maxxing did add to aesthetic appeal, the actual coding of your face is determined and more or less unchangeable.
While this verified that my face has no notable flaws, (particularly once side profile was fixed with lefort) it doesn't automatically equate to halo points
Yes my instinct about having good facial harmony before I knew of the term harmony was right all along but this doesn't automatically equate to attraction since guys with obscure ratios can look more striking, more angular or have more appeal.
I tested it on some models and they only got like 50th percentile in terms of harmony due to shit like short chin, overly wide and flat mandible, long midface etc but most normies really don't notice things that would be considered ratio flaws if the person looks good overall.
I tested out a few more of my pics and recent DSLR ones regularly got top 0.01% and rarer while my passport photo taken on some random camera by a foid in a pharmacy is actually my best looking pic aesthetically (sometimes you just take a good picture) but this pic got top 10% in terms of harmony
So the range goes from top 10% to top 0.001% based on the camera used.
I think once you go beyond top 1%, in terms of measurable harmony, the difference that it makes in real life is negligable since no one will notice if you have 2 ratios that are 10% outside the ideal range compared to the guy who's in the ideal range for everything.
This is why just sheer attractive matters, and this is harder to quantify than simply ratios
I do think I possess sheer facial attractiveness also, and even if it could be quantified, I don't think it would be any rarer than 99th percentile and for the sake of it I'll say no rarer than 98th percentile to draw a hard line (platinum percentile)
I often notice when I would go into the bathroom on a night out, I would think the other guys there would be fairly decent facially, then I would look in the mirror while washing my hands to see that I mog them (in my personal opinion)
This happens often in nightlife environments where I would see guys who relative to the crowd look fairly good, but then I catch a mirror that shows both of us and see that my eye area looks more compact, cheekbones look better, nose and general ratios are better etc etc.
It's also happened to me a few times where I caught a mirror at a completely weird position that was head level with me and for a split second that I thought was looking at someone else and thought "that's a threatening looking mogger" then realized it was me.
Either there is quite a clear gap between my facial attractiveness and the average young guy in a crowd or else I just have mental programming that causes me to overate myself since my results don't match with my self perception.
I also had a realisation when reflecting back on my school days that people intentionally ignored or downplayed instances where I was measurably the best at something but whenever some popular guy did anything positive everyone would kiss his arse and whenever some sperg who was no threat to the order did anything slightly impressive everyone would hype him.
I get the best results in the class and nobody comes to me for the answers or comments on my results, they just hype up the guy who always shows off having his homework done first.
I outscore everyone in a football match or I beat everyone at a game we try for the first time and everyone ignores it or rage quits the game since their idenitity is based on their place in the hierarchy so if they see someone who doesn't give a fuck about the hierarchy is more competent that them without even trying, it calls into question what actually justifies their current place in the hierarchy
I distinctly remember some "cool kids" mocking me for a girl I kissed at a disco behind my back then 6 months later one of the "cool kids" was dating her and suddenly they were acting like she was Megan Fox Lite
Due to having anything I did intentionally downplayed my entire school life it has really made me question how my perception of reality can be so far detached from the actions of those around me so for my sanity I had to conclude that normies don't accurately process reality they just process whatever is most effective for their ego. You could say there's a massive irony here and that's exactly what I'm doing to protect my ego but I honestly think I am right and it's the normies who are wrong. Mock me for that all you want but who cares I'm just an apsie on a forum
This takes me onto my next point about glazing myself for my sentience levels
When I began making youtube vids where I landed some solid, unique taking points and people were praising them and resonating with them, it made me feel vindicated that I actually was a high level thinker all along.
Regardless of IQ, there is something about how my brain processes the world that leads me to conclusions that other people have not expressed before
How effective this is in the real world? it could barely matter, but it is something that at least feels like it justifies having an ND brain that makes socializing with foids and normies near impossible.
I decided to go on a 15 minute self glaze fest in one of my videos just to get it out of my system as the channel was being brought to a close
I thought I would get more backlash for it and might be considered a bit cringe but I thought for once I will just let my thoughts out there and talk myself up and not care and my audience didn't particularly care either thus minimal backlash
Once I got that out of my system, I really haven't thought about my sentience levels much, I think it might be a case for me where engaging in all out self glaze allows me to get the thoughts out of my head that I can feel but don't translate to real world results, then I can just forget about it rather than constantly questioning why I dont get real world results which leads me to coping with more internal self glaze thoughts
I think I am finally getting to this point in relation to my looks and this thread is going to be the final farewell to self glazing because after this, I aim to not question my looks anymore and just accept that you're not everyone's cup of tea and wherever I land objectively on the looks scale (as much as it can be measured) it barely means anything irl because I can be a 2 to one foid I interact with and an 8 to the next foid I interact with.
I made a dating app account using another PSLers pics to avail of the double date feature
When I matched with foids from his profile who I found attractive, I hit them with a line where I told them I was just visiting the country to see a mate but my mate wants to know if he can get your instagram, so that I could farm followers for my own account
When I would try initiate a convo from my own profile after getting to instagram I got blanked
The PSLer who's pics I was using has a short face and facial angularity while I have a tall face without much angularity
Me and the PSLer have a similar dating app slay count with nearly all of mine coming before 2020 and nearly all of his coming after 2020
He has one same night club slay while I have 50+
This shows just how little objective rating matters since we're around the same level facially because a girl could be keen on him and have 0 interest in me simply because of the TYPE of face they're attracted to NOT the level of rarity
This brings me onto the topic of height and how online completely nerfs height halo
Even with a heightmogger pic showing my 7 inch heightmog over him, did this make any foids switch sides and want to go for the heightmogger friend? No
They matched with the PSLer because of face and a face that wasn't similar type wise was worthless to them
While having outlier height is good for ego maxxing, it really feels like it puts you in a position where you can't win because people will always downplay the impact that your face has on attraction
I would actually like to briefly transfer into a universe where I'm average height to see how much of a difference it makes
When guys talk about how much of a halo height is and how the advantage to being anything past tall HTN is negligable under the assumption that tall HTN is attractive to every girl, when you respond saying you meet those metrics and girls simply don't give a fuck their automatic go to is to downplay your face
When I see another geezer in public of a similar height who has similar proportions (tapered and not a pear shaped fat fuck) it makes me realize just how tall I also look compared to the general population and makes me wonder how I'm not doing BETTER since a guy of my size with a youthmaxxed mascthetic face is giga rare
I think it's understandable that I would have developed a large ego having gone from average height framecel in early to mid teens to 98th percentlile height and gymcelled but it really destroys my perception of reality to see that it means nothing to foids if they feel your presence makes them uncomfortable for a split second due to lack of NT they'll disqualify you and accept a 5'8 MTN who meets her NT threshold
I had more to write and conclude shit but I veered off track so I'll finish it another time
My ability to think has been severely diminished by the 100ml of vodka I consumed while writing
Now I know how normies aka 99% of this userbase think and why they can't string together anything more than 5 words that are an appeal to social engagement, not anything of value
ily 
