Why IMO the blackpill going “mainstream” won’t be a problem.

its not only about botch
the brazilian kid who had even more invasive surgery with giant than clav will have, didn't ascend
ofcourse, it won't make everybody chad
but even a 0.5 point improvement in the average face + roidcel body really ruins our advantage
depends what do you view as a botch, they will frame it as a small thing that should be corrected
if you go on forums or reddit you will see plenty of people who had surgeons sucking money out of them
doesn't mean average guy is gonna get purposefully botched.
majority will improve their face.
genio alone can't take you far
any non one dimensional movement can't be determined just by 3-4 measurements from a photo
ofcourse, I'm saying it will be similar to S.K case.
Genio, jaw filling & fat-graft might not make everybody chad but it will increase competition drastically,
and do they get results they want?
roids will almost guarantee it.
we were talking about the amount of people who will be willing to looksmax.
 
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clav is blasting since 14 btw maybe the brain damage from the AIs and trenbolone finally caught up to him
 
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roids will almost guarantee it.
we were talking about the amount of people who will be willing to looksmax.
that's kinda my point
the percentage of men who will likely do this might be less than 1%
even if they do ascend, they won't increase competition by much
 
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more than 50% people get surgery there
that's not true
South Korea has a high rate of plastic surgery, with about 9 out of every 1,000 people getting plastic surgery each year, the highest in the world per capita. Estimates suggest around 1 in 3 South Korean women between the ages of 19 and 29 have had plastic surgery,
### most likely face lift cuz of aging
while about 1 in 5 South Koreans overall have had at least one cosmetic procedure.
### can be literally a co2 laser



you might think it will noticeable increase competition due to exposure bias
but the most impactful things that could have happened already did: dating apps and social media
 
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that's not true
South Korea has a high rate of plastic surgery, with about 9 out of every 1,000 people getting plastic surgery each year, the highest in the world per capita. Estimates suggest around 1 in 3 South Korean women between the ages of 19 and 29 have had plastic surgery,
### most likely face lift cuz of aging
while about 1 in 5 South Koreans overall have had at least one cosmetic procedure.
### can be literally a co2 laser



you might think it will noticeable increase competition due to exposure bias
but the most impactful things that could have happened already did: dating apps and social media
They don't even consider rhino a plastic surgery.
around 50% youth is indeed getting surgery there.

Estimates suggest around 1 in 3 South Korean women between the ages of 19 and 29 have had
one in three is already 33.33%
and these are just the one's who admit it

even 10% people getting it is huge L for us.

not to mention like every 1/4th gymcel roids
imagine what will happen once people popularize it.
 
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They don't even consider rhino a plastic surgery.
yes they do

Estimates suggest around 1 in 3 South Korean women between the ages of 19 and 29 have had
one in three is already 33.33%
and these are just the one's who admit it
that's not only those who admit it... thats not how it works bro

not to mention like every 1/4th gymcel roids
no they don't....


@Ogionth read this bro
 
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Inshallah I hack this forum & stop it from getting mainstream,
 
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not to mention like every 1/4th gymcel roids
imagine what will happen once people popularize it.
Indeed, steroids are already pretty much mainstream among older gymcels, and popularizing them even more for the youth will be catastrophic for competitive advantage.

hopefully, clav gets brutally botched and turns most of the normies away from surgery, although it’s unlikely
 
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They do lol, you’d be amazed at how many average looking gym goers are blasting roids (especially in America)
Like I said it's just the exposure bias
those who blast are more likely to go to the gym frequently
therefore you will see more of them
 
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search up bp on tiktok and youll see what i mean

normie bluepilled niggas at my skl say shit like ltn/b mtn/b htn/b and other shit
Is BP different in Tiktok than it is normally?
 
They don't even consider rhino a plastic surgery.
around 50% youth is indeed getting surgery there.

Estimates suggest around 1 in 3 South Korean women between the ages of 19 and 29 have had
one in three is already 33.33%
and these are just the one's who admit it

even 10% people getting it is huge L for us.

not to mention like every 1/4th gymcel roids
imagine what will happen once people popularize it.
1/4 gymcel does NOT roid lmao.

Get out of social media and actually live your life.
 

"Surveys in the American field indicate that use among community weight trainers attending gyms and health clubs is 15%-30%"
Holy fucking retard.

Now read the study that it referenced infront of that statement


"Results: Of the 500 AAS users who participated in the survey, 78.4% (392/500) were noncompetitive bodybuilders and nonathletes; 59.6% (298/500) of the respondents reported using at least 1000 mg of testosterone or its equivalent per week. The majority (99.2%) of AAS users (496/500) self-administer injectable AAS formulations, and up to 13% (65/500) report unsafe injection practices such as reusing needles, sharing needles, and sharing multidose vials. In addition to using AAS, 25% of users admitted to the adjuvant use of growth hormone and insulin for anabolic effect, and 99.2% (496/500) of users reported subjective side effects from AAS use."



You're an absolute illiterate fuck, "Out of 500 AAS users"
.
 
The survey referenced after is from 500 AAS users JFL.

Not even from people in randomly in the gym
do you realize that it's a review on a surveys estimating amount how many people have ever used steroids at least ONCE

most gymcels never go past their first cycle

and the original surveys covered as few as 21 gyms
 
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1/4 gymcel does NOT roid lmao.

Get out of social media and actually live your life.
It’s not the craziest estimate, although that study seems like complete shit. Realistically around 7.5-10%, which, when you consider the volume of people who go to the gym, is enough to be considered ‘mainstream’ in my opinion
 
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It’s not the craziest estimate, although that study seems like complete shit. Realistically around 7.5-10%, which, when you consider the volume of people who go to the gym, is enough to be considered ‘mainstream’ in my opinion
this
but for using it at least once in their life
not for roiding at the moment
 
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It’s not the craziest estimate, although that study seems like complete shit. Realistically around 7.5-10%, which, when you consider the volume of people who go to the gym, is enough to be considered ‘mainstream’ in my opinion
There's a whole lot of difference between 10% aka 1/10 and 25% or 1/4.

This guy is an absolute retard referencing studies that he doesn't even read.

I agree that blackpill has become mainstream due to TT
 
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It’s not the craziest estimate, although that study seems like complete shit. Realistically around 7.5-10%, which, when you consider the volume of people who go to the gym, is enough to be considered ‘mainstream’ in my opinion
The likely hood that those who use steroids do them in a way that will be an overall looksmax, is slim to none. This is a tiny community and even the ones here don't know how to roid without raping their overall looks/facial attractiveness. Most AAS users will look worse as a result of steroid usage. Sure they may get a better body, which is a looksmax, but they will bring down their face (skin, hairline, bloat etc) without a doubt.
 
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It's gonna get way more popular for sure
The real problem will be influencers like clav coming about more often like you said, org is still niche, only 80k members ish(most of which are greys) I believe
The likely hood that those who use steroids do them in a way that will be an overall looksmax, is slim to none. This is a tiny community and even the ones here don't know how to roid without raping their overall looks/facial attractiveness. Most AAS users will look worse as a result of steroid usage. Sure they may get a better body, which is a looksmax, but they will bring down their face (skin, hairline, bloat etc) without a doubt.
good point
 
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ones from 2011 but regardless


"1 in 4 bro" :soy:

the average gym goer isn't someone whose whole life is gym


Especially now that even 12 year old kids are going to the gym,
 
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The likely hood that those who use steroids do them in a way that will be an overall looksmax, is slim to none. This is a tiny community and even the ones here don't know how to roid without raping their overall looks/facial attractiveness. Most AAS users will look worse as a result of steroid usage. Sure they may get a better body, which is a looksmax, but they will bring down their face (skin, hairline, bloat etc) without a doubt.
Techniques improve with time.
Gymcels love studies about some weird gym technique to increase muscle contraction and creatine & other supplements.
If BP roiding knowledge goes mainstream, nothing will stop gymcel influencers from promoting dut & accutane.
 
Perhaps

lets just hope it dies down
I made a thread (suggestion to private the forum) on this many months ago, before it went viral on TT hoping that the forum would be privated but I guess master likes the cash flow too much :feelsez:
 
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The real problem will be influencers like clav coming about more often like you said, org is still niche, only 80k members ish(most of which are greys) I believe
correct
BP influencers are legit cancer.
Shami took BOTB Threads & made normies chew on carrots.
Now he's buddies with clav & promoting ozempic or something already.
I made a thread (suggestion to private the forum) on this many months ago, before it went viral on TT hoping that the forum would be privated but I guess master likes the cash flow too much :feelsez:
Master is evil
Nigger wants to destroy every good thing.
 
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He should implement a $20 joining fee to keep it somewhat exclusive while still profiting
won't really stop clav & others from spreading this info.
Influencers who explain the knwoledge here to normies are the real culprit.
There's a lot of time investment required to gain knowledge by lurking on this forum.

Biggest mistake of org users was letting clav spread this stuff on youtube.
It was good when org users used to destroy every influencer spreading real BP info on tiktok.
 
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won't really stop clav & others from spreading this info.
Influencers who explain the knwoledge here to normies are the real culprit.
There's a lot of time investment required to gain knowledge by lurking on this forum.

Biggest mistake of org users was letting clav spread this stuff on youtube.
It was destined to happen.

If it weren't clav or face iq or kshami, then it would be someone else, if the forum was kept open

It's like an opportunity to grift, that could only be stopped if the forum was outright privated

But It's too late now..
 
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In clavs vid “My message to young men” he described how everyone is going to get bimax and full facial implants in 5 years. Does clav actually believe this? Or was he just ranting?

Seriously, I don’t even believe everyone will be fully softmaxxed in 5 years. The vast majority of guys will never hardmax. How many guys are taking out a loan or going to put all of their money from wageslaving all into hardmaxxing? Besides, you need a good base to hardmax.
yeah these 2 friends of mine dont get me wrong are mega funny and i love hanging out with where talking about how they would lock in and try look better id say there both hltn-lmtn. they was talking about grey stuff and how doing this natural thing wil lfix there recessiom as a good friend i told then straight up they need surgery to fix there recessiom and said to me blud i will not hardmax ever its to much
 
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It was destined to happen.

If it weren't clav or face iq or kshami, then it would be someone else, if the forum was kept open

It's like an opportunity to grift, that could only be stopped if the forum was outright privated

But It's too late now..
All the one's who tried to spread BP stuff before 2024 got doxxed & threatened by blackpillers.
They were forced to shift from spreading real looksmaxxing methods into making normie softmaxx content in the name of looksmaxxing.

But for some reason they allowed clav & face IQ to spread this stuff & get away with it.
 
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In clavs vid “My message to young men” he described how everyone is going to get bimax and full facial implants in 5 years. Does clav actually believe this? Or was he just ranting?

Seriously, I don’t even believe everyone will be fully softmaxxed in 5 years. The vast majority of guys will never hardmax. How many guys are taking out a loan or going to put all of their money from wageslaving all into hardmaxxing? Besides, you need a good base to hardmax.
yup "blackpill going mainstream wont be a problem" and its a post about clavicular kys
 
its just all larp and greycels
Sadly it won’t remain that way

We have to exploit the competitive advantage over the next 5-10 years while it still lasts.

Soon a smarter clav with a better work ethic will completely normalise this, looksmaxxers are the new PUA’s. Brutal stuff
 
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yup "blackpill going mainstream wont be a problem" and its a post about clavicular kys
He’s the one responsible for most of the concern, very relevant.
 
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Sadly it won’t remain that way

We have to exploit the competitive advantage over the next 5-10 years while it still lasts.

Soon a smarter clav with a better work ethic will completely normalise this, looksmaxxers are the new PUA’s. Brutal stuff
one day this site might get taken down and then niggas might have to move to shitty .com
 
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He’s the one responsible for most of the concern, very relevant.
i didnt read the full thread i thought it was some bullshit tiktokcel post oops
 
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Sadly it won’t remain that way

We have to exploit the competitive advantage over the next 5-10 years while it still lasts.
💯
Soon a smarter clav with a better work ethic will completely normalise this, looksmaxxers are the new PUA’s. Brutal stuff
agreed
should've never allowed him to shift on yt tbh
but he got away with it because he was talking in org lingo
 
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one day this site might get taken down and then niggas might have to move to shitty .com
Org isn’t the problem though, it’s the people who come from org and spread it outside of org to a larger audience
 
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ofcourse, it won't make everybody chad
but even a 0.5 point improvement in the average face + roidcel body really ruins our advantage

doesn't mean average guy is gonna get purposefully botched.
majority will improve their face.

ofcourse, I'm saying it will be similar to S.K case.
Genio, jaw filling & fat-graft might not make everybody chad but it will increase competition drastically,

roids will almost guarantee it.
we were talking about the amount of people who will be willing to looksmax.
yeah i think the influencers have ruine doht chances but not for this generation mabye the next generation so when we have kids at like 30-40 (if you ever ascend nigga) the kids of this generation will get exposed to and do looksmaxing and parents will also try help their child (proper posture tounge posture making sure child doesnt experience excessive steess or be malnutritioned) some parent wont tho. I personally will be changing my kids epigenetics by doing test and tren at 10gram doses
 
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Org isn’t the problem though, it’s the people who come from org and spread it outside of org to a larger audience
yeah i see some peopme literally promoting it and saying looksmax.org as an idiot myself when finding tbis forum i was stumped by how everyone called it .org😂😂😂 and it delayed my entrance to the forum by about a year from when i first tried making an account which as around january
 
Org isn’t the problem though, it’s the people who come from org and spread it outside of org to a larger audience
yeah thats why it might get taken down cuz of stupid niggers who like to spread stuff
 
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yeah i think the influencers have ruine doht chances but not for this generation mabye the next generation so when we have kids at like 30-40 (if you ever ascend nigga) the kids of this generation will get exposed to and do looksmaxing and parents will also try help their child (proper posture tounge posture making sure child doesnt experience excessive steess or be malnutritioned) some parent wont tho. I personally will be changing my kids epigenetics by doing test and tren at 10gram doses
I wouldn’t say they ruined anything for the next generation.
It would just be like it has always been.
Genetic engineering and plastic surgery would be far more advanced than they are now.
The rich will win, and the poor will lose.
Also mewing & tren won't do jackshit for your kids.
 
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