Why is everybody fixated on steroids?

[v0lcel]

Like you can achieve a good physique without all these substances, it's not that hard

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Saw some guys here post "transformations" that literally just look like what you'd achieve easily 80-90% as a natty anyway lol.. what is even the point then? I get if you want to be huge but some of these are almost pointless.

Also if roids give you hair loss and acne then it is overall net looksmin. Really bad and something to be careful to avoid also. Hair and good skin are more important than muscles. Muscles help but ogremaxxing and going bald + having shit skin = very net looksmin.

 

[ragu]

Saw some guys here post "transformations" that literally just look like what you'd achieve easily 80-90% as a natty anyway lol.. what is even the point then? I get if you want to be huge but some of these are almost pointless.

Also if roids give you hair loss and acne then it is overall net looksmin. Really bad and something to be careful to avoid also. Hair and good skin are more important than muscles. Muscles help but ogremaxxing and going bald + having shit skin = very net looksmin.

nigga your retarded

 

[v0lcel]

nigga your retarded

Nah he right

 

[ragu]

You can look it up, it doesn't change anything

yep your both retard

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

nigga your retarded

Why? What did I say that was wrong? Unless you post a real roid transformation and not one that looks almost natty you did roids for no reason imo almost lol.. then did toxic drugs PCT + shrank balls often permanently lowering natural T production lol. At least go all in and get much bigger than natty if roiding.

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Why? What did I say that was wrong? Unless you post a real roid transformation and not one that looks almost natty you did roids for no reason imo almost lol.. then did toxic drugs PCT + shrank balls often permanently lowering natural T production lol. At least go all in and get much bigger than natty if roiding.

And hair + clear skin mogs norwood + acne if roiding. Far from all can prevent roid acne even with isotretinoin because high androgen loads upgrades sebacous glands + output anyway lol.

 

[v0lcel]

And hair + clear skin mogs norwood + acne if roiding. Far from all can prevent roid acne even with isotretinoin because high androgen loads upgrades sebacous glands + output anyway lol.

Miring high iq

 

[ltnsyn]

Like you can achieve a good physique without all these substances, it's not that hard

ur not achieving a roided zeek while natty unless u got insane top tier genetics and still won’t end up looking better than 90% of roiders
Also many people hop on these days for the dimorphism rather than the zeek

 

[ragu]

Why? What did I say that was wrong? Unless you post a real roid transformation and not one that looks almost natty you did roids for no reason imo almost lol.. then did toxic drugs PCT + shrank balls often permanently lowering natural T production lol. At least go all in and get much bigger than natty if roiding.

nigga you do it until you die take dht blocker and you wont get hairloss and accutane for skin

 

[v0lcel]

ur not achieving a roided zeek while natty unless u got insane top tier genetics and still won’t end up looking better than 90% of roiders

I humbly disagree. I got a better physique at 17 natty not even training for hypertrophy than most roiders

 

[mediocrity]

Ts was never about physique

 

[ltnsyn]

I humbly disagree. I got a better physique at 17 natty not even training for hypertrophy than most roiders

bum ass claim
i’ll put my life savings on the line
ur not nowhere near a roider that’s been working out and eating well for a year

 

[v0lcel]

bum ass claim
i’ll put my life savings on the line
ur not nowhere near a roider that’s been working out and eating well for a year

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

nigga you do it until you die take dht blocker and you wont get hairloss and accutane for skin

DHT blockers only work if you stick to testo cycle only even then some slowly lose ground anyway. Some get away with it for sure but not all. If you add tren, oxandrolone, other direct AR agonists fin/dut does jack shit. Roid forums are full of guys that balded even on fin/dut + minoxidil + RU on heavy roid cycles lol.

 

[ltnsyn]

ur built like a twink bro holy fuck

 

[v0lcel]

Not even 1 year of not even hypertrophy training natty at 17 btw i wished i was sarcastical but im not

ur built like a twink bro holy fuck

 

[ltnsyn]

Not even 1 year of not even hypertrophy training natty at 17 btw i wished i was sarcastical but im not

this isn’t shit btw.. someone on gear would be twice as built and look far more masculine with the same diet and training plan as you

iqlet

 

[ragu]

DHT blockers only work if you stick to testo cycle only even then some slowly lose ground anyway. Some get away with it for sure but not all. If you add tren, oxandrolone, other direct AR agonists fin/dut does jack shit. Roid forums are full of guys that balded even on fin/dut + minoxidil + RU on heavy roid cycles lol.

Forum anecdotes aren't evidence. Nobody claims fin/dut make you hairloss proof They lower DHT so they absolutely reduce hair loss from testosterone. They just can't stop compounds like tren that hit the androgen receptor directly Some people still go bald because genetics and overall androgen exposure matter not because fin/dut do nothing
Some guys still lost hair isn't proof the drugs don't work. It's proof they aren't magic.

 

[v0lcel]

this isn’t shit btw.. someone on gear would be twice as built and look far more masculine with the same diet and training plan as you

iqlet

Always the ones behind a screen i swear

I would actually listen to you if you posted something, idk. Tbh it kind of feel draining talking to a bitch.

 

[ltnsyn]

Always the ones behind a screen i swear

I would actually listen to you if you posted something, idk. Tbh it kind of feel draining talking to a bitch.

cope more pussy

 

[v0lcel]

Taking it in the ass like a good boy i see fag

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

bum ass claim
i’ll put my life savings on the line
ur not nowhere near a roider that’s been working out and eating well for a year

Who cares if roid guy is bigger? Women barely don't even care past what you get as a natty anyway. Roidcels cope hard as fuck thinking extra roid muscle ascends them. All roided Chads that "ascended" owe their success to their face and bones mainly and would have women lined up to fuck them with just some natty muscle mass anyway or even as scrawny prettyboy guys lol..

 

[ltnsyn]

Who cares if roid guy is bigger? Women barely don't even care past what you get as a natty anyway. Roidcels cope hard as fuck thinking extra roid muscle ascends them. All roided Chads that "ascended" owe their success to their face and bones mainly and would have women lined up to fuck them with just some natty muscle mass anyway or even as scrawny prettyboy guys lol..

hahahahahhaah
how can these niggas be so scared of a couple injections
ur a bunch of pussies

roids are amazing i feel like a god and lift heavier day by day

OVER FOR NATTY CUCKS

EVEN MY ONEITIS LOVES WHAT IM TURNING INTO

 

[v0lcel]

Who cares if roid guy is bigger? Women barely don't even care past what you get as a natty anyway. Roidcels cope hard as fuck thinking extra roid muscle ascends them. All roided Chads that "ascended" owe their success to their face and bones mainly and would have women lined up to fuck them with just some natty muscle mass anyway or even as scrawny prettyboy guys lol..

At the end of the day it s mainly face

 

[v0lcel]

hahahahahhaah
how can these niggas be so scared of a couple injections
ur a bunch of pussies

roids are amazing i feel like a god and lift heavier day by day

OVER FOR NATTY CUCKS

EVEN MY ONEITIS LOVES WHAT IM TURNING INTO

Nigga everyone get stronger everyday even as a natty, you re more retarted than i thought

 

[ltnsyn]

Nigga everyone get stronger everyday even as a natty, you re more retarted than i thought

try putting on 4kg of weight and losing around 2% bodyfat natty in 3 weeks

 

[Cgahj23456]

Dimo gains as well with roids

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

hahahahahhaah
how can these niggas be so scared of a couple injections
ur a bunch of pussies

roids are amazing i feel like a god and lift heavier day by day

OVER FOR NATTY CUCKS

EVEN MY ONEITIS LOVES WHAT IM TURNING INTO

Lol I like my big juicy balls + massive loads, meanwhile you are probably shooting blanks and low volume and calling other guys cucked for not pinning drugs, which is easy as fuck and even 80 IQ retards can do. Anybody can hop on gear easy as fuck it is hardly any achievement lol.

 

[ltnsyn]

Dimo gains as well with roids

exactly
win win in every situation if ur not a retarded iqlet that doesn’t know anything and just pins whatever

 

[duebaora]

no offense but ur small as shit @v0lcel

 

[ltnsyn]

Lol I like my big juicy balls + massive loads, meanwhile you are probably shooting blanks and low volume and calling other guys cucked for not pinning drugs, which is easy as fuck and even 80 IQ retards can do. Anybody can hop on gear easy as fuck it is hardly any achievement lol.

I can easily pct and turn back to my normal levels btw..?
95% recover after around 3 years of AAS usage if their sperm count before was already good
and ur body is resilient when ur young

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

I can easily pct and turn back to my normal levels btw..?
95% recover after around 3 years of AAS usage if their sperm count before was already good
and ur body is resilient when ur young

PCT drugs are toxic as fuck, clomiphene degrades your retina permanently etc. Early glasses + degraded vision is cucked as fuck. Premature aging and wrinkled skin, shitty joints and norwood at 30+ is also cucked. I am unc and still look pretty and young as fuck at 30 and and swimming in HOT young foid as attention with my natty physique and extreme hair. Every roidcel I know from my teens/early 20s looks like shit now at 30+ and can only date/settle down with old ugly hags while I can fuck and thirst trap almost anybody with my hot selfies and natty greco-roman physique pics.

 

[ltnsyn]

Lol I like my big juicy balls + massive loads, meanwhile you are probably shooting blanks and low volume and calling other guys cucked for not pinning drugs, which is easy as fuck and even 80 IQ retards can do. Anybody can hop on gear easy as fuck it is hardly any achievement lol.

also my loads are thicker on tren than natty

 

[ltnsyn]

PCT drugs are toxic as fuck, clomiphene degrades your retina permanently etc. Early glasses + degraded vision is cucked as fuck. Premature aging and wrinkled skin, shitty joints and norwood at 30+ is also cucked. I am unc and still look pretty and young as fuck at 30 and and swimming in HOT young foid as attention with my natty physique and extreme hair. Every roidcel I know from my teens/early 20s looks like shit now at 30+ and can only date/settle down with old ugly hags while I can fuck and thirst trap almost anybody with my physique pics.

yes man keep eating ur soylent and drinking ur estrogen tap water
its okay let us ascend while manlets like you cope around trying to gain a kilo of muscle mass in two months at best
also the fact ur 30 and still a bum here on org is crazy

be more like me
17 year old on tren and living life to the fullest while pumping my girls guts

 

[Robertski]

Like you can achieve a good physique without all these substances, it's not that hard

Nigga steroids and natural are a whole different league, it’ll take a few months to be more built than a 2 year natty.

 

[v0lcel]

Nigga steroids and natural are a whole different league, it’ll take a few months to be more built than a 2 year natty.

Ik, im not denying that nigga, its just nobody care if your not that big (altough it helps), sacrificing your health and degrading your main SMV variable (your face) are just not worth it. You re ruining your long term potential by doing steroids

 

[Robertski]

Ik, im not denying that nigga, its just nobody care if your not that big (altough it helps), sacrificing your health and degrading your main SMV variable (your face) are just not worth it. You re ruining your long term potential by doing steroids

By face if you mean acne then they can just take accutane, which also fucks up the liver but that’s what ancillaries are for. And DHT derivatives literally help with dimorphism lmao. Lastly, who wants to live to an old age? You wanna be 84, crapping your diapies, have stiff joints, barely able to move? Nah I’d rather die at a decent old age then live to a old age and have Alzheimer’s or arthritis

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

yes man keep eating ur soylent and drinking ur estrogen tap water
its okay let us ascend while manlets like you cope around trying to gain a kilo of muscle mass in two months at best
also the fact ur 30 and still a bum here on org is crazy

be more like me
17 year old on tren and living life to the fullest while pumping my girls guts

Yah and you will look like shit most likely by late 20s, probably early fucked joints also like many roidcels that ruin your training later on forcing need of even heavier ogremaxx stack. Who cares that you fuck some girl at 17? Come back when you are a regional hot guy celeb and thirst object for tons of young hot women lmfao. My Tinder profile even though shadowbanned currently has cancer high elo and is shared everywhere in my region + capital city and huge traffic to my IG and always seeing HOT girls lurk me on IG in suggested follows.

I am playing the long game while you likely will burn out and have to cope hard around my age lol. I get girls obsessing + crying over me IRL and trying to do character assassination attempts because I just prince mog and frustrate them that hard lol. This in spite of never touching roids. You want to be Chad until you are in your 50s+ lmfao and pull young girls with ease and not cope with old hags. Got huge fake tit milf thirsting over me too so even for hags I am getting the higher tier ones too while balded wrinkled roidcels are stuck with coping at 30+.

That said there are successful roiders but they're pretty much always tall handsome Chads that would be successful no matter what lol with good hair and skin, but that is a minority of roidcels long-term.

 

[ltnsyn]

Yah and you will look like shit most likely by late 20s, probably early fucked joints also like many roidcels that ruin your training later on forcing need of even heavier ogremaxx stack. Who cares that you fuck some girl at 17? Come back when you are a regional hot guy celeb and thirst object for tons of young hot women lmfao. My Tinder profile even though shadowbanned currently has cancer high elo and is shared everywhere in my region + capital city and huge traffic to my IG and always seeing HOT girls lurk me on IG in suggested follows.

I am playing the long game while you likely will burn out and have to cope hard around my age lol. I get girls obsessing + crying over me IRL and trying to do character assassination attempts because I just prince mog and frustrate them that hard lol. This in spite of never touching roids. You want to be Chad until you are in your 50s+ lmfao and pull young girls with ease and not cope with old hags. Got huge fake tit milf thirsting over me too so even for hags I am getting the higher tier ones too while balded wrinkled roidcels are stuck with coping at 30+.

That said there are successful roiders but they're pretty much always tall handsome Chads that would be successful no matter what lol with good hair and skin, but that is a minority of roidcels long-term.

yap of the year im not reading that shit
ill recap it again
fertility is almost guaranteed
i feel amazing
im putting on pound after pound
im pumping a htb whenever i want
im losing bodyfat while eating what i want
idk what ur so mad about? every major teen roider ends up dimorphic as shit in their 20’s jfl

 

[v0lcel]

Yah and you will look like shit most likely by late 20s, probably early fucked joints also like many roidcels that ruin your training later on forcing need of even heavier ogremaxx stack. Who cares that you fuck some girl at 17? Come back when you are a regional hot guy celeb and thirst object for tons of young hot women lmfao. My Tinder profile even though shadowbanned currently has cancer high elo and is shared everywhere in my region + capital city and huge traffic to my IG and always seeing HOT girls lurk me on IG in suggested follows.

I am playing the long game while you likely will burn out and have to cope hard around my age lol. I get girls obsessing + crying over me IRL and trying to do character assassination attempts because I just prince mog and frustrate them that hard lol. This in spite of never touching roids. You want to be Chad until you are in your 50s+ lmfao and pull young girls with ease and not cope with old hags. Got huge fake tit milf thirsting over me too so even for hags I am getting the higher tier ones too while balded wrinkled roidcels are stuck with coping at 30+.

That said there are successful roiders but they're pretty much always tall handsome Chads that would be successful no matter what lol with good hair and skin, but that is a minority of roidcels long-term.

Miring hard right now unc. Didn t know you were like

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

yap of the year im not reading that shit
ill recap it again
fertility is almost guaranteed
i feel amazing
im putting on pound after pound
im pumping a htb whenever i want
im losing bodyfat while eating what i want
idk what ur so mad about? every major teen roider ends up dimorphic as shit in their 20’s jfl

You are the mad one + coping. Not even reading means you're coping hard as fuck right now. I read your shit in seconds because I don't cope hard and am high IQ unlike you. Of course you don't feel roid side-effects at 17 but they start exploding in your mid-late 20s. I will stay ascended for decades while you are stuck with old hags at 30+ lol.

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Miring hard right now unc. Didn t know you were like

Well only in terms of thirst/being erotic thirst trap desirable guy lmfao but yes I am spam-shared and thirsted over as fuck in group chats and huge traffic on IG. Women turning red-faced and bending over laughing IRL or elbowing each other etc lol.

 

[ltnsyn]

You are the mad one + coping. Not even reading means you're coping hard as fuck right now. I read your shit in seconds because I don't cope hard and am high IQ unlike you. Of course you don't feel roid side-effects at 17 but they start exploding in your mid-late 20s. I will stay ascended for decades while you are stuck with old hags at 30+ lol.

sure mate i’m coping
do ur research on anabolic androgenic steroids before claiming this bullshit

 

[v0lcel]

Well only in terms of thirst/being erotic thirst trap desirable guy lmfao but yes I am spam-shared and thirsted over as fuck in group chats and huge traffic on IG. Women turning red-faced and bending over laughing IRL or elbowing each other etc lol.

wait unc might actually be him

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

sure mate i’m coping
do ur research on anabolic androgenic steroids before claiming this bullshit

What bullshit? I have researched this hard as fuck + got life experience and friends that did long-term roiding and seen what other long-term roiders in my gym aged like lol. Trust me I considered hopping on gear many times in my early 20s etc glad I didn't and focused on hairmaxxing, clear skin and being fine with having a decent/good natural physique lol. Not hard topic to research plus I admit roids + pharmaceuticals in general are super interesting lol. I take multiple pharma ones just for softmaxxing + anti-aging etc lol.

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

What bullshit? I have researched this hard as fuck + got life experience and friends that did long-term roiding and seen what other long-term roiders in my gym aged like lol. Trust me I considered hopping on gear many times in my early 20s etc glad I didn't and focused on hairmaxxing, clear skin and being fine with having a decent/good natural physique lol. Not hard topic to research plus I admit roids + pharmaceuticals in general are super interesting lol. I take multiple pharma ones just for softmaxxing + anti-aging etc lol.

My father and decades older half-brother are lifetime natties also they achieved insane physiques eventually anyway from long-term training, dad has biceps and triceps and forearms in very old age that mog many roidtakers here for ex especially when you consider how much of roid mass is pure water that goes away as soon as you hop off too lol. Sure takes a while but you get pretty impressive etc after long enough too, then roids become even more pointless. I get wanting fast results though and that roids are fun but also really overrated for looksmaxxing and SMV overall lol, plus net SMV loss if you get hair loss and heavy acne and pre-mature aging as fuck lol.

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Also got cancer high ultra stud libido and can go 5+ times daily easily just on natural T production + selegiline. And I am on dutasteride too lol.. short refraction period too.

 

[6”3neartyronelite]

It’s useful if u have shit genetics and don’t have a good v taper without substantial muscle mass

 

[ltnsyn]

What bullshit? I have researched this hard as fuck + got life experience and friends that did long-term roiding and seen what other long-term roiders in my gym aged like lol. Trust me I considered hopping on gear many times in my early 20s etc glad I didn't and focused on hairmaxxing, clear skin and being fine with having a decent/good natural physique lol. Not hard topic to research plus I admit roids + pharmaceuticals in general are super interesting lol. I take multiple pharma ones just for softmaxxing + anti-aging etc lol.

pop off man i won’t bother