Why is France pushing itself as the next Oxford?

[Jason Voorhees]

France has recently been spending a lot of money doing seminars and programmes in various countries to promote more intake of foreign students. France is making a number of investments in higher education, including a plan to attract more international students and to increase the number of English-language programs

Accueil | Campus France India

The French Agency in India for the promotion of higher education, international student services, and international mobility.

www.inde.campusfrance.org

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

No it isn't, and even France's best university is barely comparable to a T25 ranked US school.

Look no further than the Polytech institute or HEC; their 'international' student base are a bunch of Indian subhumans that are forced to fuck off right back to India after incurring a huge debt once they realize that no one in France hires someone that can't speak French.

Oxford is top 5-7 equivalent in comparison with US schools. France's best would be 20-25.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

No it isn't, and even France's best university is barely comparable to a T25 ranked US school.

Look no further than the Polytech institute or HEC; their 'international' student base are a bunch of Indian subhumans that are forced to fuck off right back to India after incurring a huge debt once they realize that no one in France hires someone that can't speak French.

Oxford is top 5-7 equivalent in comparison with US schools. France's best would be 20-25.

I've also observed this tooo. Additionally, it's worth noting that the French education system differs significantly from that of English-speaking countries. In France, there are 13 years of schooling, and the admission process for institutions like HEC is generally less competitive and prestigious compared to like LSE or the Booth School in Chicago. It seems to me, all you really need is work experience and a substantial amount of money to make it to these Buisiness schools in France like HEC, INSEAD. France may be aiming to benefit financially from immigrants and eventually send them back home, somewhat similar to what Ireland is doing.

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

I've also observed this tooo. Additionally, it's worth noting that the French education system differs significantly from that of English-speaking countries. In France, there are 13 years of schooling, and the admission process for institutions like HEC is generally less competitive and prestigious compared to like LSE or the Booth School in Chicago. It seems to me, all you really need is work experience and a substantial amount of money to make it to these Buisiness schools in France like HEC, INSEAD. France may be aiming to benefit financially from immigrants and eventually send them back home, somewhat similar to what Ireland is doing.

INSEAD is still a decent school, but mainly because its got an Asian and Europe campus thus making it a good selection for the Asian/European base to get into MBA recruiting pathways from 2 different continents.

But - the significant challenge is always going to be:
1) Work authorization
2) Local language/culture barriers -

There are still people who manage to bypass this and get into multi national companies that only speak English, but its getting rarer and rarer. The issue with France and other countries 'sending back' these workers is : 1) There is no incentive for people of those countries to seek an education there. Think about it. Where would an HEC degree be most valuable? In France. Barely anyone outside of France even knows about INSEAD or HEC. When they go back to India, if they want some top paying position, they will be be mogged by IIM or IIT grads. If they want to go to the US; they will get terra mogged by the 10 plus world leading US institutions. There is literally no place left for them.

They can try their luck in Eastern Europe but even then its a strech since the upper management prefers someone that can speak the language or is accustomed to the local culture (even if its MBB).

All this to say, the area where your degree is most valuable is where you got the degree from (HEC is respected mostly only in France, Uni of Virginia is respected in well, Virginia).. The only exceptions to this are the top US degrees and (Oxford/Cambridge for Europe and Asia)

Its the same thing in US. If you graduated from Oxford and another dude graduated from Duke. The preference will go to the Duke candidate .

 

[Humble Oligarch]

Oxford is Top 2 in the world, and its not 2.