Why is gymcelling so complicated?

[Napoleon1800]

I’ve probably seen hundreds of threads and comments about Gymcelling, though remember nothing obviously, and I’ve booked marked multiple gymcelling threads that I haven’t read and they’re long as hell. I genuinely can’t take just how much shit and complication there is in this. What exercises for each body part, best ones of each, best diet, callisthenics or weight lifting etc etc etc AAHAH please one of u niggas send the best threads on gymcelling so I can just stick to those I mainly want to build my frame and get an athletic build.

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

its not

1. inject test
2. lift weights
3. eat food

 

[Napoleon1800]

its not

1. inject test
2. lift weights
3. eat food

I’m not doing roids
But what exercises
What kind of food and how much

 

[6PSLcel]

just take roids and do whatever routine, bro split will suffice, only when you're a natty cuck you have to manage like 200 different parameters, the stress alone from that shit is probably equal to the stress the roids will bring, so just pin.

 

[future slavic chad]

do it like the meat heads used to do it pre soy science based lifting. do a fucking bench press, curl some biceps, squats. eat eggs and meat and oats. thats it

 

[Napoleon1800]

just take roids and do whatever routine, bro split will suffice, only when you're a natty cuck you have to manage like 200 different parameters, the stress alone from that shit is probably equal to the stress the roids will bring, so just pin.

I can’t afford roids nigga also most lean niggas with decent physiques aren’t roided

 

[6PSLcel]

I can’t afford roids nigga also most lean niggas with decent physiques aren’t roided

test is very cheap to run, ik some NEETs who are on government gibs pinning test

 

[Deleted member 14699]

I’ve probably seen hundreds of threads and comments about Gymcelling, though remember nothing obviously, and I’ve booked marked multiple gymcelling threads that I haven’t read and they’re long as hell. I genuinely can’t take just how much shit and complication there is in this. What exercises for each body part, best ones of each, best diet, callisthenics or weight lifting etc etc etc AAHAH please one of u niggas send the best threads on gymcelling so I can just stick to those I mainly want to build my frame and get an athletic build.

Genetics or u wont get shit

 

[Napoleon1800]

Genetics or u wont get shit

I haven’t tried to know my genetics

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

I’m not doing roids

why

But what exercises

just make a ppl program and follow it its not hard

What kind of food

healthy food obviously retard

how much

how the fuck am i supposed to know, more than you need to maintain bodyweight if youre trying to bulk, and opposite if cutting

 

[cytoplasm]

Train consistenly, exercise selection doesnt matter pick the ones you like doing

Eat in a calorie surplus and 0.7 g/lb of protein

 

[Napoleon1800]

why

just make a ppl program and follow it its not hard

healthy food obviously retard

how the fuck am i supposed to know, more than you need to maintain bodyweight if youre trying to bulk, and opposite if cutting

Fair enough

 

[Xylmaxxing]

its not

1. inject test
2. lift weights
3. eat food

Doesn't injecting roids fuck up your skin and hair? Also it permafucks your test after you stop taking it.

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

Doesn't injecting roids fuck up your skin and hair? Also it permafucks your test after you stop taking it.

you know nothing

 

[Napoleon1800]

you know nothing

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2024 went fast

 

[Never Get Up]

do it like the meat heads used to do it pre soy science based lifting. do a fucking bench press, curl some biceps, squats. eat eggs and meat and oats. thats it

Don’t eat the oats

 

[Xylmaxxing]

you know nothing

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No I don't but its literally obvious knowledge. You don't need to know much to realize that injecting extra hormones into your body will cause some fuckups.

 

[Never Get Up]

Train consistenly, exercise selection doesnt matter pick the ones you like doing

Eat in a calorie surplus and 0.7 g/lb of protein

1. Calories are units of heat energy
2. Heat has no mass therefor can’t be brought to rest
3. Therefor you can’t eat heat

 

[Never Get Up]

healthy food obviously retard

Define “healthy food” to your best knowledge.

 

[vratisevojvodo]

I’ve probably seen hundreds of threads and comments about Gymcelling, though remember nothing obviously, and I’ve booked marked multiple gymcelling threads that I haven’t read and they’re long as hell. I genuinely can’t take just how much shit and complication there is in this. What exercises for each body part, best ones of each, best diet, callisthenics or weight lifting etc etc etc AAHAH please one of u niggas send the best threads on gymcelling so I can just stick to those I mainly want to build my frame and get an athletic build.

lol it's not

pick workout plan that suits you best, train for a while without changing plan

progressive overload

low volume & high intensity

recovery

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

No I don't but its literally obvious knowledge. You don't need to know much to realize that injecting extra hormones into your body will cause some fuckups.

no its not fucking obvious knowledge because why the fuck would the average person know anything about steroids. with a proper pct you completely restore endogenous production after cycle and if you want you can maintain endogenous production while on cycle with hCG

 

[Norwegian LTN]

Train consistenly, exercise selection doesnt matter pick the ones you like doing

Eat in a calorie surplus and 0.7 g/lb of protein

Nice goal today, it came clutch

 

[vratisevojvodo]

Genetics or u wont get shit

old excuse

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

Define “healthy food” to your best knowledge.

animal food, fruit, white rice and quinoa for carbs

all unprocessed, organic, grass fed etc where applicable

 

[Never Get Up]

animal food, fruit, white rice and quinoa for carbs

all unprocessed, organic, grass fed etc where applicable

So poison? Ok

 

[Napoleon1800]

So poison? Ok

Raw meat?

 

[Norwegian LTN]

no its not fucking obvious knowledge because why the fuck would the average person know anything about steroids. with a proper pct you completely restore endogenous production after cycle and if you want you can maintain endogenous production while on cycle with hCG

Pct is cope, its genetics if you start producing again after a cycle

Using hcg to counteract testicular atrophy would boost your chances of recovering normal test levels

 

[Never Get Up]

Raw meat?

Raw preferably, but cooked is fine.

What I was referring to as “poison” is the fruits, vegetables, and grains aka exogenous carbohydrates.

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

Pct is cope, its genetics if you start producing again after a cycle

jfl most retarded thing ive ever heard

Using hcg to counteract testicular atrophy would boost your chances of recovering normal test levels

literally said that

 

[Napoleon1800]

Raw preferably, but cooked is fine.

What I was referring to as “poison” is the fruits, vegetables, and grains aka exogenous carbohydrates.

It’s pretty impossible to not eat fruits or vegetables or grains in todays world

 

[Napoleon1800]

It’s pretty impossible to not eat fruits or vegetables or grains in todays world

Even if they were poison

 

[Never Get Up]

It’s pretty impossible to not eat fruits or vegetables or grains in todays world

So how come I’ve been doing it for 9 months now?

 

[Napoleon1800]

So how come I’ve been doing it for 9 months now?

It’s difficult to maintain for most people

 

[Napoleon1800]

So how come I’ve been doing it for 9 months now?

Again this is assuming what ur saying is right

 

[Norwegian LTN]

literally said that

Thats not pct, you do that during the cycle.

How would a pct help?

 

[Never Get Up]

It’s difficult to maintain for most people

That’s because most people don’t have the knowledge of the consequences of eating carbohydrates.

 

[Never Get Up]

Again this is assuming what ur saying is right

What I am saying is 100% correct and unassailable.

 

[Napoleon1800]

What I am saying is 100% correct and unassailable.

Explain further, why is it, body needs carbohydrates to some degree

 

[FreakShowCel]

Do pushups and crunches and eat alot

 

[Never Get Up]

Explain further, why is it, body needs carbohydrates to some degree

False. The human body doesn’t require a single gram of exogenous carbohydrates EVER.

 

[Napoleon1800]

False. The human body doesn’t require a single gram of exogenous carbohydrates EVER.

Body needs fibre which is present in fruits and vegetables

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

Thats not pct, you do that during the cycle.

i never said it was pct, i literally said the exact same thing as you, use hCG to maintain endogenous production (aka counter testicular atrophy)

How would a pct help?

The use of post-cycle therapy is associated with reduced withdrawal symptoms from anabolic-androgenic steroid use: a survey of 470 men - PMC

Anabolic–androgenic steroids (AAS) mimic the effects of testosterone and may include testosterone itself; they are used for body enhancement within the general population. AAS use has been linked with increased mortality, cardiovascular disease, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Napoleon1800]

False. The human body doesn’t require a single gram of exogenous carbohydrates EVER.

Also why do u specify exogenous

 

[Never Get Up]

Body needs fibre which is present in fruits and vegetables

False again. Fiber is not required and is actually detrimental to gut function. Fiber is what causes constipation, bloating, and farts.

 

[Never Get Up]

Also why do u specify exogenous

Exogenous means outside source. Your body will make all the carbs it needs (which is very low) through gluconeogenesis.

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

False. The human body doesn’t require a single gram of exogenous carbohydrates EVER.

yes it does, low GL diets lead to lower SHBG so less free test, and lower circulating insulin so less IGF-1

 

[Never Get Up]

yes it does, low GL diets lead to lower SHBG so less free test, and lower circulating insulin so less IGF-1

False. Humans are obligate carnivores.

 

[Norwegian LTN]

i never said it was pct, i literally said the exact same thing as you, use hCG to maintain endogenous production (aka counter testicular atrophy)

The use of post-cycle therapy is associated with reduced withdrawal symptoms from anabolic-androgenic steroid use: a survey of 470 men - PMC

Anabolic–androgenic steroids (AAS) mimic the effects of testosterone and may include testosterone itself; they are used for body enhancement within the general population. AAS use has been linked with increased mortality, cardiovascular disease, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Maybe I am wrong, but I don’t think a serm or ai can help someone that don’t recover from a cycle it just negates the sides

You are right about the hcg. I just agreed, but didn’t want to mix it with the pct

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

Maybe I am wrong, but I don’t think a serm or ai can help someone that don’t recover from a cycle it just negates the sides

Suppressed Testicular Function 'Mostly Reversible' After Steroid Abuse

But process can take upwards of 9 months

www.medpagetoday.com

AAS abusers taking steroids for a mean 10 months recover LH in 9 months, sperm in 14.2 months and FSH in 18.7 months, all with no pct

the HPTA can completely recover on its own, pct is just designed to speed up the process while reducing the side effects in the mean time

 

[Norwegian LTN]

Suppressed Testicular Function 'Mostly Reversible' After Steroid Abuse

But process can take upwards of 9 months

www.medpagetoday.com

AAS abusers taking steroids for a mean 10 months recover LH in 9 months, sperm in 14.2 months and FSH in 18.7 months, all with no pct

the HPTA can completely recover on its own, pct is just designed to speed up the process while reducing the side effects in the mean time

Yeah, the point I was trying to make is that some people doesn’t recover even with a pct