why is math so extremely hard to understand? like why didnt humans make it easier to grasp?

[_MVP_]

i mean if i invented math, i would make it all easy to understand, right

 

[cooldude1231]

Maybe u are low iq? Innit

 

[marshadow]

i mean if i invented math, i would make it all easy to understand, right

“MVP is high IQ”
Lets be serious.

 

[2025cel]

When a single person invents something it is bound to be simple, easy and elegant.
When several people throughout history collectively contribute to the creation,
the result is definitely gonna be the opposite.

 

[_MVP_]

Maybe u are low iq? Innit

i find math very counterintuitive, it doesnt come easy for me, which is strange

if i have trouble with it, imagine oother people, im significantly smarter than the average BLOKE.

 

[_MVP_]

When a single person invents something it is bound to be simple, easy and elegant.
When several people throughout history collectively contribute to the creation,
the result is definitely gonna be the opposite.

yes, you get it.

 

[2025cel]

“MVP is high IQ”
Lets be serious.

One can be high iq but bad at math, I'm good at math but relatively low iq.

 

[likenesss]

When a single person invents something it is bound to be simple, easy and elegant.
When several people throughout history collectively contribute to the creation,
the result is definitely gonna be the opposite.

Skibidi is high iq and esoteric

 

[_MVP_]

One can be high iq but bad at math, I'm good at math but relatively low iq.

im the opposite, high iq, bad at math

 

[Never Get Up]

Stupid people don’t realize that they are stupid. You are one of those that I’m speaking of.

 

[greycel]

When a single person invents something it is bound to be simple, easy and elegant.
When several people throughout history collectively contribute to the creation,
the result is definitely gonna be the opposite.

What about language
The more people involved, the less complicated, more refined/efficient languages have become

 

[_MVP_]

im low iq? is that your answer? you guys honestly claim math is easy? didnt know we had so many geniuses here.

 

[_MVP_]

im not talking about the math at ur school, u idiots. you guys have no idea how hard math actually is, see my post above.

 

[_MVP_]

Stupid people don’t realize that they are stupid. You are one of those that I’m speaking of.

nigga, you have that nigger as ur pfp, meeks, and use a name as a meme , your obviously literally under 18yo

shut up u idiot

 

[_MVP_]

“MVP is high IQ”
Lets be serious.

go back to school, kid

ur 16yo

ur NOTHING

 

[2025cel]

What about language
The more people involved, the less complicated, more refined/efficient languages have become

The goal of languages isn't to solve a problem specifically,
it was invented with the idea in mind that it's going to help simplify things and get a point across.
But although these days it's quite different.

 

[Never Get Up]

nigga, you have that nigger as ur pfp, meeks, and use a name as a meme , your obviously literally under 18yo

shut up u idiot

1. Your English grammar is horrendous.

2. I’m 22 years old.

3. The misuse of the term “your” needs to be corrected to “you’re”.

4. Being high IQ doesn’t have anything to do with mathematics. Knowing how nature works is what makes you high IQ.

I IQ mog you into oblivion.

 

[_MVP_]

1. Your English grammar is horrendous.

2. I’m 22 years old.

3. The misuse of the term “your” needs to be corrected to “you’re”.

4. Being high IQ doesn’t have anything to do with mathematics. Knowing how nature works is what makes you high IQ.

I IQ mog you into oblivion.

@Veganist

 

[lurking truecel]

im low iq? is that your answer? you guys honestly claim math is easy? didnt know we had so many geniuses here.

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Do some simple substition and manipulations and its solved..you are just not good with parenthesis, you are low iq bull dog

 

[lifeless]

Thank god for calculators.

 

[greycel]

The goal of languages isn't to solve a problem specifically,
it was invented with the idea in mind that it's going to help simplify things and get a point across.
But although these days it's quite different.

Wouldn’t the problem be to logically communicate with others
Similar to maths, which is a display of logic

Also it just doesn’t intuitively make any sense. The more people involved in seeing something, the more perspectives, the more room for improvement and also ways you can improve
You adding more layers onto it, or branching out further would be done while making sure the core (axioms) are even further grounded/stable

 

[Never Get Up]

@Veganist

Yes, call for someone else to back you up in a fight that you lost in before it even started. I will destroy anyone you send my way.

You are very low IQ. All of those carbohydrates have eroded your cognitive capabilities and basic brain functioning. Hence why you barely have a positive posts to reputation ratio.

 

[_MVP_]

Yes, call for someone else to back you up in a fight that you lost in before it even started. I will destroy anyone you send my way.

You are very low IQ. All of those carbohydrates have eroded your cognitive capabilities and basic brain functioning. Hence why you barely have a positive posts to reputation ratio.

 

[2025cel]

Wouldn’t the problem be to logically communicate with others
Similar to maths, which is a display of logic

Also it just doesn’t intuitively make any sense. The more people involved in seeing something, the more perspectives, the more room for improvement and also ways you can improve
You adding more layers onto it, or branching out further while making sure the core (axioms) are stable/grounded

Logically communicating with others is something that has been incorporated to the human's brain, for a time period way longer than dealing with numericals.

Maths however is complete abstraction in it's simplest form,
it does not serve much purpose to one who follows his natural instincts.
For example one could see a lot of mammoths in one place and say "Woah a lot of mammoths" instead of counting them(since no need for confirmation)

More people contributing to mathematics means the base abstraction is going to get a lot more voodoo abstraction added upon it.
The core axioms are still comprehensible and relevant but yet the complexity greatly increases also.

 

[_MVP_]

Yes, call for someone else to back you up in a fight that you lost in before it even started. I will destroy anyone you send my way.

You are very low IQ. All of those carbohydrates have eroded your cognitive capabilities and basic brain functioning. Hence why you barely have a positive posts to reputation ratio.

 

[softman]

i find math very counterintuitive, it doesnt come easy for me, which is strange

if i have trouble with it, imagine oother people, im significantly smarter than the average BLOKE.

I mean, IQ tests are usually divided into several subtests; you could be lacking in a certain subtest that correlates to mathematical/arithmetic prowess while scoring high on the other subtests

 

[_MVP_]

@Never Get Up

so u semi-nigger think ur smarter than me

 

[_MVP_]

@LancasteR
@deadstock
@paladincel_
@MoggerGaston

 

[marshadow]

go back to school, kid

ur 16yo

ur NOTHING

Pipe down before I leash your ass faggot

 

[_MVP_]

I mean, IQ tests are usually divided into several subtests; you could be lacking in a certain subtest that correlates to mathematical/arithmetic prowess while scoring high on the other subtests

yes

 

[2025cel]

Pipe down before I leash your ass faggot

If you really want to argue with someone, at least stop throwing vague insults and ad hominem.

 

[marshadow]

If you really want to argue with someone, at least stop throwing vague insults and ad hominem.

Were on an incel forum what the fuck do you want from me man

 

[2025cel]

Were on an incel forum what the fuck do you want from me man

Not necessarily, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
But even if we were, what difference would that make?
Be respectful.

 

[marshadow]

Not necessarily, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
But even if we were, what difference would that make?
Be respectful.

I have never understood this whole intent civility thing… im nice to people because I want to be but im allowed to say whatever I want. If what I want to say is not nice, its the internet and I have no problem being mean.
Catch my drift? You people aren’t real to me. Your like NPCs.
(Not to be rude)

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

i mean if i invented math, i would make it all easy to understand, right

Its quite easy

 

[2025cel]

I have never understood this whole intent civility thing… im nice to people because I want to be but im allowed to say whatever I want. If what I want to say is not nice, its the internet and I have no problem being mean.
Catch my drift? You people aren’t real to me. Your like NPCs.
(Not to be rude)

Understandable,
although that would mean that @_MVP_ is not doing something bad either.
Have a nice day.

 

[marshadow]

although that would mean that @

@_MVP_ is not doing something bad either.

Hss not. Its jst fun and games to call each other retarded fags over incel forums. No hard feelings.

Have a nice day.

You as well

 

[_MVP_]

I have no problem being mean.

user "marshadow" is a psychopath. i have people-knowledge. i have seen right through him. he is barely human. im warning u guys.

@marshadow @LancasteR @deadstock @MoggerGaston

looksmax.org

 

[marshadow]

user "marshadow" is a psychopath. i have people-knowledge. i have seen right through him. he is barely human. im warning u guys.

@marshadow @LancasteR @deadstock @MoggerGaston

looksmax.org

Gay your gay stupid gay boy L gay in my notis go away gay

 

[_MVP_]

Hss not. Its jst fun and games to call each other retarded fags over incel forums. No hard feelings.


You as well

 

[greycel]

I don’t think I explained it clearly, but I’ll just respond to this stuff u mentioned

Logically communicating with others is something that has been incorporated to the human's brain, for a time period way longer than dealing with numericals.

Understanding relative nature such as more or less probably predates the use of communication amongst humans
As even the simplest of creatures understand that 1 predator is more than 2, no matter how developed their communication skills might be
Humans are also far more reliant on numerical reasoning than the need to communicate. It would only make sense that that feature takes precedence evolutionarily

Maths however is complete abstraction in it's simplest form,
it does not serve much purpose to one who follows his natural instincts.
For example one could see a lot of mammoths in one place and say "Woah a lot of mammoths" instead of counting them(since no need for confirmation)

Complex maths might be sufficient and pass that threshold for being directly required in nature. But anything that’s further separating us from being shackled to the whims of nature is a positive
It raises the ceiling

More people contributing to mathematics means the base abstraction is going to get a lot more voodoo abstraction added upon it.
The core axioms are still comprehensible and relevant but yet the complexity greatly increases also.

Even if the complexity increases that doesn’t mean the chain isn’t coherent
Everything else it is built upon is sound. It is fundamentally simple at it’s core
Also we were talking about the simplicity of it.. I.e. whether you can further deconstruct it

We are talking about how fine the piece of thread is, not how long it extends

Also you should think of it more of unlocking the truth than adding to it. It all already exists it just hasn’t been formulated

 

[2025cel]

I don’t think I explained it clearly, but I’ll just respond to this stuff u mentioned

Understanding relative nature such as more or less probably predates the use of communication amongst humans
As even the simplest of creatures understand that 1 predator is more than 2, no matter how developed their communication skills might be
Humans are also far more reliant on numerical reasoning than the need to communicate. It would only make sense that that feature takes precedence evolutionarily


Complex maths might be sufficient and pass that threshold for being directly required in nature. But anything that’s further separating us from being shackled to the whims of nature is a positive
It raises the ceiling


Even if the complexity increases that doesn’t mean the chain isn’t coherent
Everything else it is built upon is sound. It is fundamentally simple at it’s core
Also we were talking about the simplicity of it.. I.e. whether you can further deconstruct it

We are talking about how fine the piece of thread is, not how long it extends

Also you should think of it more of unlocking the truth than adding to it. It all already exists it just hasn’t been formulated

Yes, I agree with the points you made completely.
Math at it's base core is more elegant, simplistic and natural.

 

[Defeatist]

I don’t care if it’s hard

It’s elegant

 

[Veganist]

1. Your English grammar is horrendous.

2. I’m 22 years old.

3. The misuse of the term “your” needs to be corrected to “you’re”.

4. Being high IQ doesn’t have anything to do with mathematics. Knowing how nature works is what makes you high IQ.

I IQ mog you into oblivion.

look at this tryhard idiot hahahah